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Old 05-11-2007, 05:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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^^^they definitely count

he always winds up in either a superior position to strike, a position to apply a submission, or actually has a submission by the time the opponent and himself come to rest on the canvas

its amazing, i may actually have to agree with you on that one, taking judo and making it that effective in MMA is incredible
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