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rugger · 05-21-2007, 11:30 PM

The carbs come from d-glucose (aka dextrose) which absolutely ideal for post workout. While how much fructose the liver can process and store can differ VERY greatly from one individual to another, I'll agree that fructose is not an ideal carbohydrate for post-workout. (Ah, the Pentose Pathway, another past-time hobby). Regardless, we're getting dextrose and a small amount of sucralose (aka Splenda) in this particular formula.

To avoid confusion - Sonic is ProteinFactory's product that contains DSM's PeptoPro. The label in Sonic is not PeptoPro's label per se.

Hydrolysis is nothing new, before I developed an allergy to whey I drank the old school liquid aminos - yes, taste like complete ass. What is new is the patent process that DSM has developed. What is it, hell we don't know - it's patented. DSM is a European company (a very good thing IMO, European supplement laws are strict), I expect it will take a bit of time to take over the market, but if DSM's claims are true it will (and it's produced at a rate that reduces the cost). So, yes, I agree if it's good it will sell itself, all that crap is their marketing blurb. DSM is already working with GNC and Vitamin Shoppe to get PeptoPro product introduced to a large market, it's already available a few places...

proteinfactory.com for Sonic Protein and Anapure
nutribevscience.com for RAD drinks and powders
Genesistoday.com for Protein 100
completepitcher.com for Power Hitter and complete pitcher
karmicrevenge.com for Revamp powders
drinklockload.com for Lock & Load RTD beverage

I don't understand the red flag, you can google PeptoPro and find plenty of hits. Go to proteinfactory and search peptopro or sonic if you want to see this label.

Reto Reider has sent me a couple of PDFs containing several athletic trials conducted by James Madison U. When I get a moment I will find them on the net independantly. This much I do know, DSM provided the grant for the research, but that is nothing new.

Again, personally I am very excited because it's a product with a high BV and very fast absorption, a combination I have been without since I became allergic to whey (and milk protein in general) around 98ish I think?

05-21-2007, 11:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
rugger Contender Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 343 Points: 4,249 Bank: 1,486 Total Points: 5,735 Donate	The carbs come from d-glucose (aka dextrose) which absolutely ideal for post workout. While how much fructose the liver can process and store can differ VERY greatly from one individual to another, I'll agree that fructose is not an ideal carbohydrate for post-workout. (Ah, the Pentose Pathway, another past-time hobby). Regardless, we're getting dextrose and a small amount of sucralose (aka Splenda) in this particular formula. To avoid confusion - Sonic is ProteinFactory's product that contains DSM's PeptoPro. The label in Sonic is not PeptoPro's label per se. Hydrolysis is nothing new, before I developed an allergy to whey I drank the old school liquid aminos - yes, taste like complete ass. What is new is the patent process that DSM has developed. What is it, hell we don't know - it's patented. DSM is a European company (a very good thing IMO, European supplement laws are strict), I expect it will take a bit of time to take over the market, but if DSM's claims are true it will (and it's produced at a rate that reduces the cost). So, yes, I agree if it's good it will sell itself, all that crap is their marketing blurb. DSM is already working with GNC and Vitamin Shoppe to get PeptoPro product introduced to a large market, it's already available a few places... proteinfactory.com for Sonic Protein and Anapure nutribevscience.com for RAD drinks and powders Genesistoday.com for Protein 100 completepitcher.com for Power Hitter and complete pitcher karmicrevenge.com for Revamp powders drinklockload.com for Lock & Load RTD beverage I don't understand the red flag, you can google PeptoPro and find plenty of hits. Go to proteinfactory and search peptopro or sonic if you want to see this label. Reto Reider has sent me a couple of PDFs containing several athletic trials conducted by James Madison U. When I get a moment I will find them on the net independantly. This much I do know, DSM provided the grant for the research, but that is nothing new. Again, personally I am very excited because it's a product with a high BV and very fast absorption, a combination I have been without since I became allergic to whey (and milk protein in general) around 98ish I think?