Sean Sherk on the cover of major magazine Pic

The-Iceman-Chuck-Liddell · 07-19-2007, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nimmy

im a huge fan of the ground game but when you look at it the casual fan loves submissions and KOs not lay and pray. i think thats why they introduced the stand up rule. tell me why guys like scott smith get asked back to the UFC? because they give the fans a show. sherk will be another tim sylvia champ for most people 2-3 times afetr he defends the title, a non marketable champ that people dont like watching.. unless he offers more than the takedown and hold down.

It wasn't LNP. LNP is where you just Lay and do nothing. Sherk was constantly changing positions, and he had a couple Kimura Attempts. Also he has amazing slams which is very exciting. The fact that he can take knees to the head like that and escape submissions is what make him a exciting fighter.

Nimmy · 07-19-2007, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The-Iceman-Chuck-Liddell

It wasn't LNP. LNP is where you just Lay and do nothing. Sherk was constantly changing positions, and he had a couple Kimura Attempts. Also he has amazing slams which is very exciting. The fact that he can take knees to the head like that and escape submissions is what make him a exciting fighter.

im not bashing on Sherk, im saying some people wont like his style, i personally didnt, sherk had oppourtunities to reign blows on franca but didnt, holding somone down for 20 minutes and not making a significant mark on them isnt my kind of fighting. sherk had as much damage on him as franca did and franca was on bottom for the whole fight.

sherk has great slams yes and he is strong yes. looking for a kimura doesnt coutn and his positioning doesnt count as nothing came of it in way of winnign the fight by anyother means than lying on top of the guy, fact of the matter is that he didnt finish franca and had control for the full fight with times to hurt franca and didnt

The-Iceman-Chuck-Liddell · 07-19-2007, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nimmy

im not bashing on Sherk, im saying some people wont like his style, i personally didnt, sherk had oppourtunities to reign blows on franca but didnt, holding somone down for 20 minutes and not making a significant mark on them isnt my kind of fighting. sherk had as much damage on him as franca did and franca was on bottom for the whole fight.

sherk has great slams yes and he is strong yes. looking for a kimura doesnt coutn and his positioning doesnt count as nothing came of it in way of winnign the fight by anyother means than lying on top of the guy, fact of the matter is that he didnt finish franca and had control for the full fight with times to hurt franca and didnt

Ya I agree, I wanted Sherk to posture up and rain some elbows down. I am sure he was just a little nervous because it was his first title defense and look what happened to GSP. I'm sure his next couple fights he is going to be a little less cautious and just wan to prove he can finish fights.

OneBigThrow · 07-19-2007, 09:13 AM

i cant tell if people on this forum want UFC to become WWE or not

keep arguing about "marketable" champions and styles, maybe we should require champs get finishing moves thatll help

Nimmy · 07-19-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OneBigThrow

i cant tell if people on this forum want UFC to become WWE or not

keep arguing about "marketable" champions and styles, maybe we should require champs get finishing moves thatll help

yeah chuck liddell overhand right.

tell me why if matt lindland is so good he isnt in the UFC or the UFC dropped him asap. also tim sylvia, i dont care if someones marketable or not but dana does, and the money they make from the PPVs make the UFC stronger.

if the guy was 26 stones of fat and looked like giant silva as long as he was an exciting fighter id back him. those guys are marketable as they put on a show.

OneBigThrow · 07-19-2007, 09:21 AM

i want to see skilled fighters that perform well at their craft

i would hate to have to pay for freak show fights...but i see where u are comin from just a diff in opinion

btw are you from Europe? u used "stone" i never noticed before

Nimmy · 07-19-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OneBigThrow

i want to see skilled fighters that perform well at their craft

i would hate to have to pay for freak show fights...but i see where u are comin from just a diff in opinion

btw are you from Europe? u used "stone" i never noticed before

yeah im from scotland, im not talking giant silva or akebono, but i mean guys who will put bums on seats. sherk to me doesnt seem like he can do this, now if you had BJ Penn as the champ then the UFC wouldnt need to have 2 title fights on the same card.