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Old 08-20-2007, 05:15 PM   #1
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Default Sherdog's Top 10 PFP Fighters

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I don't agree with most of this list, there is no mention of GSP, Wandy and Nogueira among others. I also do not agree with Melendez being up there, he hasn't exactly faced top competition although he does have the potential to be the #1 LW in the future. Rampage has won his last 3 fights but I still don't think he deserves to be #6. Especially disturbing is the lack of Wandy on the list, people seem to think he is no longer a contender since his last 2 fights. People forget how dominant he was in Pride.
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Fedor Tops Sherdog.com Pound-For-Pound

I like them putting Gil at #3, at first i was like wtf, but i actually like that move. I dont think Sherk should be in the top 10, especially with the steroid thing. And i think Kid and Rampage should trade places. Maybe slot BJ in Sherk's place.



1) Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures) (26-1-0, 1 NC)
The creation of a pound-for-pound list can be directly traced back to the desire of determining the best fighter regardless of weight. So it is Mastro's Steakhouse-rare when a list is topped by a heavyweight. But such is the greatness of Russian Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures). A complete fighter, Fedor is known for his brilliance in the ring, where he often appears so relaxed it's like he just woke from a Sunday afternoon nap. Fedor, currently weighing contract offers, mixes a vicious ground-striking game with an active submission regimen along with the kind of high-elevation takedowns that only the most dynamic fighters possess. Having stood and gone to the floor with the best in both areas, most pundits regard Emelianenko, the current PRIDE heavyweight champion, to be the finest fighter on the plant.

2) Mauricio Rua (Pictures) (16-2-0)
A staple of any pound-for-pound list, and rightfully so, Shogun's ledger is a hit list of some of 2005's finest. His epic run through 2005's PRIDE 205-pound Grand Prix saw him ice now-UFC kingpin Quinton Jackson (Pictures), Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (Pictures), Alistair Overeem (Pictures), and Ricardo Arona (Pictures), in what may be the best 12-month run any MMA fighter has ever put together. Recent wins over respectable opponents such as Kazuhiro Nakamura (Pictures), and another W over Overeem, only serve to solidify the 25-year-old's sterling hit list, which may be due for some fresh additions as he heads to the octagon.

3) Gilbert Melendez (Pictures) (12-0-0)
You won't find "El Niño" on many people's pound-for-pound lists, let alone third. The question is simple: Why not? Melendez is perhaps the only fighter you could name other than B.J. Penn (Pictures), who after achieving top three status in one division, jumped up a weight class to achieve the same stature in another. Melendez's wins over the likes of Hiroyuki Takaya (Pictures) and Rumina Sato (Pictures) saw him emerge as a preeminent featherweight, but he was forced to move up in weight when then-Shooto world champion Alexandre Franca Nogueira (Pictures) did everything in his power to avoid fighting him. At 155, Melendez cemented himself as one of the division's best, emerging victorious in his slugfest with Tatsuya Kawajiri (Pictures) on New Year's Eve. While Melendez may not be the "third best fighter in the world," his resume boasts two divisions of top three credibility, which cannot be balked at.

4) Dan Henderson (Pictures) (22-5-0)
The proverbial snapshot adjacent to the definition would feature Henderson wearing 4-ounce gloves. Fighting from heavyweight to 185 pounds, Henderson is the only man to hold major titles in separate weight divisions at the same time, owning both the PRIDE 205 and 185-pound straps -- and the No. 3 spot at both light heavyweight and middleweight in the Sherdog.com divisional rankings. There are few if any fighters with as an impressive list of opponents, many of which are heavier than the former U.S. Olympic wrestler. A February knockout over Wanderlei Silva (Pictures) helped to diminish the negative impact of Henderson's uninspired 2006 decision loss to Kazuo Misaki (Pictures) at 183 pounds in Japan last year. But no matter, Hendo is a great mixed martial artist and has never failed to fight -- and in many cases defeat -- the best when given the chance.

5) Anderson Silva (19-4-0)
Had Silva not illegally up-kicked Japan's Yushin Okami (Pictures), Silva may very well be 22-3. However the Brazilian Muay Thai sniper had to settle for taking the loss and the eventual UFC middleweight title around his waist. Silva captured the title by demolishing Rich Franklin (Pictures) last October. Recently, Silva side-swiped Nathan Marquardt (Pictures) to hold on to the 185-pound belt. Silva's lanky frame and dangerous striking skills make him a tough night for anyone. Add to that an increased awareness in the cage, as well as improving takedown defense, and it's quite possible Silva won't lose in the UFC middleweight division for several years, especially if he can get post Franklin again, this time in the former champ's hometown of Cincinnati, Ohio.

6) Quinton Jackson (Pictures) (27-6-0)
On the strength of his early knockout against Chuck Liddell (Pictures) in May, "Rampage" Jackson comes in on the cusp of a Top 5 ranking. It's taken some time for Jackson to appear recovered -- both physically and mentally -- from the beatings he endured against Wanderlei Silva (Pictures) and Mauricio Rua (Pictures), but on the eve of his Sept. 8 title defense against PRIDE king Dan Henderson (Pictures) the UFC champion looks as strong as ever. It's really his strength that separates "Rampage" from many fighters at his weight; the gifted Memphis, Tennessean has picked up and slammed a great many opponents, and has harnessed his punching power while learning how to strike in the gym.

7) Takanori Gomi (Pictures) (27-3-0)
The talk of where post-PRIDE Gomi will end up continues to be a major MMA topic, and with good reason: the 28-year-old PRIDE champion is still arguably the best lightweight in the world after seven years in the rarified air of the division. While his spot on the list may have been saved by the bogus technicalities that beautified his record after his wild and woolly loss to Nick Diaz (Pictures), rules are rules -- however silly -- and we must play by them. Besides, in the last two years alone, "The Fireball Kid" has taken home wins over the likes of Tatsuya Kawajiri (Pictures), Hayato Sakurai (Pictures), Marcus Aurelio (Marcus Aurelio' class='LinkSilver'>Pictures) and Mitsuhiro Ishida (Pictures), which is pretty tough to argue with.

8) Shinya Aoki (Pictures) (11-2-0)
Multidivisional success is a huge achievement in MMA, where weight classes aren't a cute four pounds apart. Yet, the 24-year-old Shooto world champion has managed stalwart wins in two weight classes, having knocked off perennial Top 10ers Joachim Hansen (Pictures) and Akira Kikuchi (Pictures) at lightweight and welterweight. While the "Tobikan Judan" doesn't quite fulfill the criteria of dominance expected of pound-for-pound list, he is still one of the few fighters in MMA who deserves to be ranked in two weight classes, which earns him his spot here.

9) Sean Sherk (Pictures) (32-21-1)
However tarnished the UFC titlist may emerge from his ongoing steroid saga doesn't change the fact that, at least for now, he is a winner. A longtime standout welterweight, Sherk punctuated his career at 170 pounds with a win over Nick Diaz (Pictures) before moving down in weight and knocking off Kenny Florian (Pictures) and Hermes Franca (Pictures). Though solid enough to entrench him as a top lightweight, his wins at 155 are not overly outstanding in a pound-for-pound fashion, which is why "The Muscle Shark" takes a dip on this list below other double division standouts.

10) Norifumi Yamamoto (Pictures) (15-1-0, 1 NC)
As these types of lists go there is always a necessary subjectivity that's used to bind the thing together. You can argue that "Kid" Yamamoto doesn't have the wins to make the list -- though he has fought 10 pounds above his natural weight division of 145 for several years. But you can't argue against the explosive fighter's dynamic skills and fighting style, both of which have some suggesting "Kid" needs to have the zero removed from this ranking. Yamamoto is the face of K-1 HERO'S and if he fought regularly against 145-pound competitors, it wouldn't take long before he was regarded the best in the world at that weight.
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Where is GSP??

I believe he's supposed to be #2 or #3

Thanx for the post Cacti
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Hmm looks like Cacti and I posted almost simultaneously, feel free to delete one or the other.
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Thank for the post as well. Its funny how most the people on the list are new additions to the UFC or not in the UFC.(with the exception of Sherk who just got in some trouble)

I know Sherdog and Dana don't get along to well. Maybe this is Sherdog way at getting back at him professionally.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:33 PM   #6
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Thank for the post as well. Its funny how most the people on the list are new additions to the UFC or not in the UFC.(with the exception of Sherk who just got in some trouble)

I know Sherdog and Dana don't get along to well. Maybe this is Sherdog way at getting back at him professionally.

Hmmm!

I just noticed that! Good job Master! I think you are right!
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yours was posted before mine, so mine should be sent to the slaughter.
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I really dont think these are that great. I think GSP, BJ, and Faber deserve to be on there.
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I really dont think these are that great. I think GSP, BJ, and Faber deserve to be on there.
who has Faber fought?
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Sherk is not a good pound for pound fighter. If he isn't bigger and stronger than his oppenent he loses. After his next fight I am sure GSP will resume his high positions on most peoples top ten list.
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who has Faber fought?
He has dominated his division.

Who has Sherk fought to deserve to be there?
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He has dominated his division.

Who has Sherk fought to deserve to be there?
Hermes Franca and Kenny Florian, atleast hes beaten notable fighters
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Hermes Franca and Kenny Florian, atleast hes beaten notable fighters
Wow Franca and Florian. Hes beat a guy who is 6-3 and a guy whos most notable win is over Spencer Fischer.

I cant believe you could include Sherk, but leave out guys like BJ and GSP.

GSP has wins over Sherk and Hughes along with a handful of guys who are way more accomplished than Franca and Florian.

What about Penn? He has beat Gomi who is number seven on the list, along with dominating the LW division and holding the WW title belt.

I could easily make a better case for 10 more guys to be on this list other than Sherk.
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Wow Franca and Florian. Hes beat a guy who is 6-3 and a guy whos most notable win is over Spencer Fischer.

I cant believe you could include Sherk, but leave out guys like BJ and GSP.

GSP has wins over Sherk and Hughes along with a handful of guys who are way more accomplished than Franca and Florian.

What about Penn? He has beat Gomi who is number seven on the list, along with dominating the LW division and holding the WW title belt.

I could easily make a better case for 10 more guys to be on this list other than Sherk.
i dont think Sherk should be on the list either, but no way Faber does
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i dont think Sherk should be on the list either, but no way Faber does
Faber has dominated his respected division. The reason you havent heard of the guys hes beat is because the UFC does not have the division so the competitors are less known.
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Faber has dominated his respected division. The reason you havent heard of the guys hes beat is because the UFC does not have the division so the competitors are less known.
theres other organizations other then the UFC!?
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What about Kid Yamamota (spelling)? That guys is amazing and hes not even on the list. I think he should be on there ahead of Sherk and Gomi.
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theres other organizations other then the UFC!?
no way man, he was just kidding
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I did'nt really care for much of list Fedor and Shogun are a given but others could have swaped the rest out with relative ease imo.......and no Wandy
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Agreed. How can you have Rampage and not Wanderlei?
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