RebLMunkE

How many of you think that the US is going to be under Martial Law at some point??


You better cause they are stepping up plans to get it rolling......I heard about a program the government has been doing to get clergy to speak to their people about turning over their guns and obeying the government if something big happens and Martial Law is declared, And I heard that a while back........Bush having now eliminated many obstacles in the way " Posse Commentates" and others has pretty much given himself dictator level power and they have revised so many laws to the point that they could declare Martial Law for anything from a natural disaster to a probably fake terrorist attack riots you name it, they could do it now.


On some of the shows I listen to they had some guys on speaking about it and was saying their informants inside the government think they might finish up last minute prep and pull something really big in the US so the government can finally get what they want so bad full on Martial Law.


I know most people think stuff like this is crap and don’t really care…….But I’m posting this not really as a political thing just as a heads up warning that a lot of the good patriots out their seem to be thinking that the government might do this sooner rather then later……A big red flag was them publicly speaking about it on the news they were speaking about the program of some of the clergy people working with the government prepping people for a declaration of Martial Law in the event of some emergency.

Here’s the video of the broadcast from KSLA 12

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This is an article from Alex Jones' web site talking about it a bit.



NOTE: The verse in Romans that they talk about in the video is speaking of Good, True, Just, Godly government the Bible tells people to obey that and that is the kind of government that God wants..........Clearly that is not are government or any other in the world they are all the same lairs cheaters and everything else you can think of I'm sure they have done it.



Anyway that is all......I don't mean to step on anyone’s toes or nothing but something’s just need to be said no matter what other people might think......People need to be aware of their world and what it is doing to them.


- God bless.......Lets hope something like this never happens.

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Kaledonia

Damn went into the thread thinking this was gonna be about Samo Hungs Martial Law tv series!!

Well ML imposed by the government, what can I say nearly half the yanks voted in an incompentent fool to run your country who against all odds got the rest of the world to look further down their nose at the US, I'd just go for full revolution over there if I were a yankie citizien, V for Vendetta style.

Either way it matters little, the red dragon awakes!

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opsy

Oh everything was SO perfect under BJ Bill Clinton

No offense reblmlunke but this is shear paranoia. Do you really think the US (citizens, politicians etc) would let this happen? And why would our evil megalomaniac dictator want this to be done?

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HAS MARTIAL LAW ARRIVED?

Nancy Levant
August 14, 2007
NewsWithViews.com

Okay, what does it take to declare Martial Law in America? It takes 1) a declared state of emergency, 2) a readied “homeland” paramilitary system to enforce the powers of Martial Law, and 3) one signature of the one person who has the authority to make the declaration.

So, let’s get this straight. 1) In 1933, America WAS declared into a state of emergency, which has never been rescinded. We ARE PRESENTLY in a declared state of emergency (and have been for nearly 75 years), 2) multiple paramilitary systems have been raised, readied, operating, and practicing – beginning in 1974, and 3) the president of the united States need only sign a piece of paper to END the constitutional government of the united States.

On May 9, 2007, our president signed a National Security Presidential Directive – an unconstitutional piece of paper – which gave to himself the powers of total dictatorship over the entire nation (NSPD-51) and CONgress has no say so whatsoever. Can you say “total dictatorship?”

But more to the point, the question we must ask ourselves is this: are we NOW under Martial Law? We know for a fact that our constitutional rights have been politically and bureaucratically eliminated; we know for a fact that the global government has been raised; we know for a fact that the NAU is a fast-track reality; we know for a fact that the United Nations has absconded with our traditional military (who are not coming back to the states); we know for a fact that the United Nations Agenda 21 mandates that we live, believe, think, and act according to their worldly directives; we know for a fact that the International Property Maintenance Code has silently maneuvered itself into ALL American communities – much like Eminent Domain and land trust organizations – patiently awaiting the directive to seize MOST American homes; we know for a fact that the Civilian Labor Camps are up and readied; we know for a fact that disarmament is sneaking up on us like all global-political veils; we know for a fact that a shadow dictatorship manages our 2-Party system; we know for a fact that the largest global corporations in the world buy all laws into existence, AND we know for a fact that our FEAR is translating into a completely FRACTURED resistance to all-the-above. WE are in DEEP TROUBLE, America! The whole world is in deep trouble.

FULL STORY:
Nancy Levant -- Has Martial Law Arrived?

duke09

RIP "... land of the free...", as if it wasnt already gone. i wonder if bush's cronies read and check out FF for a rebellion...

Bush: "what is this Team ****; are they dangerous"
Advisor: "we dont know yet"
Bush: "screw that, get 'em"


lol.

i have a lot of american friends, but the president makes me wonder.

Ring_Raider_07

LOL. Devil president, devil president!

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arelius

This is sad. A sad sad thread. America is not that bad, our pres is a dumb **** but we are not on the brink of marshal law.

MTKrav911

I dont remember Bush attempting to raid a house just because some loony thought he was Jesus Christ and end up with a 52 day standoff eventually frying 70 men women and children in Waco.

I was far more afraid of the Government during the Clinton Era.



Fact=We were hit on 9/11/01

Fact=We haven't been hit since

Fact=8 years of Clinton appeasement emboldened a once small group called Al Qaeda which eventually grew enough to pull 9/11/01 thanks to Clinton doing nothing for 8 years militarily to our enemies.

I'll be more afraid of government if Hitlery gets in office.

No offense.

Try again.

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duke09

fact: americans werent hit for 11 years before 9/11/01
fact: america wasnt hit until bush was president
fact: duke has nothing ...

MTKrav911

Actually The USS Cole battle cruiser was hit in 1998 under Clinton by Al Qaeda and there was no respone which further emboldened that dip**** organization to pull 911 off.

Then we were hit in Kenya in 94 again By Al Qaeda where 200 US personnell were at the embassy. Again no response. Again emboldening Al Qaeda.

Fact = the liberal policies of the 90s under Clinton of appeasement and pacifism CAUSED directly or indirectly you can argue all day.

9.11.01

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duke09

i see.

Kaledonia

The attack against the cole is hardly an inspiration to step up to an attack against the world trade centres krav, i mean alqueda have taken responsiblity for killing thousands of US soldiers since then and Iraq is even worst now than when Saddam still had ties that fitted him, terrorism is gonna breed outta that place bunny style when the US runs outta GIs and well review how effective Bush's hardline cluster bombing of iraqi/afgahn villages and veiled threats against pakistani north really is in like 10 years.

Like Hezbollah, once Israel stopped the civilian massacre of lebonon the hezes now but all control the country and are many times stronger, am thinking well see that in iraq/afganistan on a grand scale when coalition forces get tired of filling body bags.

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arelius

Well Kaledonia, you sound like a smart fella.

What exactly is the proper reaction a country should give when a group of terrorists kills 3000 people in their own country?

mammoth91

You are right we could argue all day, but arguing with the neo-cons is totally useless. You're wrong. Our life style is hated, and our policies in Israel under any adminastration is hated. The 9-11-01 attackers did not give a rats ass about Rep/Dem or libral or conservative. Failure to heed intelligence pointing towards the attack is the real crime.

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MTKrav911

THey hate our lifestyle?


Screw them!

You have an argument on intelligence, but the Clinton administration didnt heed approx 47 different times during his 8 years by his intel people about Al Qaeda either. His "missiles in the sand" policy looked good on paper, but ultimately didnt deter anything.

So to blame Bush for the half a dozen intel reports in his 9 months prior to Sept 11 in office?

8 years of ambivalence on the part of Clinton created the build up to 9/11. The idea that America doesn't retaliate fuels groups like that and people like that.

Now they find out we do retaliate harshly. And are not deterred even in the midst of negative opinion by people within our society who are not as in tune with the facts of a violent world. THat's why not so much as an organized plot has occured since 9.11.

Dont get me wrong. I dont sympathize with the neo-cons. I do however believe that's what is needed right now in this dangerous world, rather than some pacifists who think that terror cells can be "reasoned" with or that really actually buy the fact that it's our lifestyle they hate so much.


"And that's all I'm going to say about that". - FOrrest GUmp

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mammoth91

But it is in part the life style as well as policies. I agree with you with the " screw them" statment. I was in favor of hitting hard and hitting fast but, some thing has to give. As far Martial Law, I will never hand over my arms ( of which I have many ) I have an above / below ground blasters license and all of my wepons are registered, I will not let any one take them. I love that freedom, some do not.

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MTKrav911

CIA missed chances to tackle al-Qaida By KATHERINE SHRADER, Associated Press Writer
36 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - The CIA's top leaders failed to use their available powers, never developed a comprehensive plan to stop al-Qaida and missed crucial opportunities to thwart two hijackers in the run-up to Sept. 11, the agency's own watchdog concluded in a bruising report released Tuesday.

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Completed in June 2005 and kept classified until now, the 19-page executive summary finds extensive fault with the actions of senior CIA leaders and others beneath them. "The agency and its officers did not discharge their responsibilities in a satisfactory manner," the CIA inspector general found.

"They did not always work effectively and cooperatively," the report stated.

Yet the review team led by Inspector General John Helgerson found neither a "single point of failure nor a silver bullet" that would have stopped the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

In a statement, CIA Director Michael Hayden said the decision to release the report was not his choice or preference, but that he was making the report available as required by Congress in a law President Bush signed earlier this month.

"I thought the release of this report would distract officers serving their country on the front lines of a global conflict," Hayden said. "It will, at a minimum, consume time and attention revisiting ground that is already well plowed."

The report does cover terrain heavily examined by a congressional inquiry and the Sept. 11 Commission. However, the CIA watchdog's report goes further than previous reviews to examine the personal failings of individuals within the agency who led the pre-9/11 efforts against al-Qaida.

Helgerson's team found that no CIA employees violated the law or were part of any misconduct. But it still called on then-CIA Director Porter Goss to form accountability boards to look at the performance of specific individuals to determine whether reprimands were called for.

The inquiry boards were recommended for officials including former CIA Director George Tenet, who resigned in July 2004; his Deputy Director for Operations Jim Pavitt; Counterterrorism Center Chief Cofer Black and the agency's executive director, who was not further identified. Other less senior officials were also tagged for accountability reviews, but identifying information was removed from the report's public version.

In a statement, Tenet said the inspector general is "flat wrong" about the lack of plan.

"There was in fact a robust plan, marked by extraordinary effort and dedication to fighting terrorism, dating back to long before 9/11," he said. "Without such an effort, we would not have been able to give the president a plan on Sept. 15, 2001, that led to the routing of the Taliban, chasing al-Qaida from its Afghan sanctuary and combating terrorists across 92 countries."

In October 2005, Goss rejected the recommendation for the inquiry boards. He said he had spoken personally with the current employees named in the report, and he trusted their abilities and dedication. "This report unveiled no mysteries," Goss said.

Hayden stuck by Goss's decision.

Providing a glimpse of a series of shortfalls laid out in the longer, still-classified report, the executive summary says:

• U.S. spy agencies, which were overseen by Tenet, lacked a comprehensive strategic plan to counter Osama bin Laden prior to 9/11. The inspector general concluded that Tenet "by virtue of his position, bears ultimate responsibility for the fact that no such strategic plan was ever created."

• The CIA's analysis of al-Qaida before Sept. 2001 was lacking. No comprehensive report focusing on bin Laden was written after 1993, and no comprehensive report laying out the threats of 2001 was assembled. "A number of important issues were covered insufficiently or not at all," the report found.

• The CIA and the National Security Agency tussled over their responsibilities in dealing with al-Qaida well into 2001. Only Tenet's personal involvement could have led to a timely resolution, the report concluded.

• The CIA station charged with monitoring bin Laden — code-named Alec Station — was overworked, lacked operational experience, expertise and training. The report recommended forming accountability boards for the CIA Counterterror Center chiefs from 1998 to 2001, including Black.

• Although 50 to 60 people read at least one CIA cable about two of the hijackers, the information wasn't shared with the proper offices and agencies. "That so many individuals failed to act in this case reflects a systemic breakdown.... Basically, there was no coherent, functioning watch-listing program," the report said. The report again called for further review of Black and his predecessor.

While blame is heaped on Tenet and his deputies, the report also says that Tenet was forcefully engaged in counterterrorism efforts and personally sounded the alarm before Congress, the military and policymakers. In a now well-known 1998 memo, he declared, "We are at war."

The trouble, the report said, was follow-up.

The inspector general did take exception to findings of Congress' joint inquiry into 9/11. For instance, the congressional inquiry found that the CIA was reluctant to seek authority to assassinate bin Laden. Instead, the inspector general believed the problem was the agency's limited covert-action capabilities.

The CIA's reliance on a group of sources with questionable reliability "proved insufficient to mount a credible operation against bin Laden," the report said. "Efforts to develop other options had limited potential prior to 9/11."

The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, said the CIA has learned from the past and has corrected many of these shortcomings, but has to do more.

"Sadly, the CIA's 9/11 accountability review serves as a sobering reminder that the Bush Administration policies for the past six years have failed to capture or kill Osama bin Laden," the West Virginia Democrat said. "Nor have the administration's policies deprived Osama bin Laden and other senior al-Qaida leaders of the safe haven they need to plot against the United States."

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--------I kinda find it funny in that report that they says something like "No official pinpoint can reveal who's at fault"

Translation by the liberal media =

The Democrats ****ed it up during the 90's, but now we'll blame it on the Repubs becaue they ****ed up Iraq, and Hillary is our new foundation for next year.

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