TUF 6: Episode 1

FatCat · 09-20-2007, 08:56 AM

Is it my imagination, or does every fighter out of Armenia have a name that ends with yan??

Parisyan
Gamburyan
Mitichyan

lambo84 · 09-20-2007, 11:04 AM

The previews for next week's show look pretty lame. This Joe fella seems like a real bitch, how does someone who doesn't have a killer attitude even get on this show?

xxzone · 09-20-2007, 12:31 PM

I really liked serra the first time he was on, and I agreed with him concerning Hughes. But now he just never shuts up about how big of a dick hughes is, and he is actually becoming what he claims he hated in hughes in the first place. Just let it go man. You don't have to tear down someone every 5 min even if you don't like him.

I still say all my point go on hughes in December. In the past I thought hughes was a dick, but he's carrying himself better then serra now.

theEmpiric · 09-20-2007, 01:40 PM

unfortunately for Serra, Hughes is probably right ... if Serra and GSP fought 10 times, GSP would win 9 of them.

jyd94 · 09-20-2007, 02:15 PM

Serra brought a weakness with him and Hughes exploited it. 1-0 Hughes in more than 1 way so far.

xxzone · 09-20-2007, 02:33 PM

Agreed! All the things Serra stated as to why he hates Hughes...well....the truth does hurt.

WorkingStiff · 09-20-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FatCatMC

Is it my imagination, or does every fighter out of Armenia have a name that ends with yan??

Parisyan
Gamburyan
Mitichyan

99% of Armenian family names end ian or yan. Just the way it is.

fullonshred · 09-20-2007, 03:25 PM

I am down with Hughes for the season. You know, I read over and over what a D*** Hughes is supposed to be, but nobody seems to have any "real" specifics. Just "Hughes is a D***", and it gets perpetuated on the boards.

If Serra is pissed at Hughes for saying GSP would beat him more often than not then he better be ready to be pissed at a LOT of people. Cause a lot of people feel the same as Matt Hughes about that.

So far Serra is the one acting like a total A-Hole, and Hughes is looking pretty smart. I could see in Serra's boys face that he ain't really a fighter. He likes BJJ and all that, but he doesn't have the fire in him. I was 95% sure he was going to lose. And I agree, to Tap with six seconds was weak. Sit and Spin, Matt Serra said about HIS OWN GUY that "He was looking for a way out of that fight and he found it with that RNC". That speaks volumes.

I also wondered if the guy with the broken elbow was Armenian, and also if he might be kin to Manny G.

subgenius · 09-20-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lambo84

The previews for next week's show look pretty lame. This Joe fella seems like a real bitch, how does someone who doesn't have a killer attitude even get on this show?

On the show? How the HELL does somebody like THAT get into Matt Serra's training camp (outside of the show, not Team Serra). And, Serra seemed to know that Joe would tap out or look for the easy way out. Why the hell did he even pick that guy? I mean, he knew the guy from the Serra gym and training camp. He should have let Matt Hughes pick the guy, LOL.

Six more seconds! SIX!!! Anybody could have taken the pain for six lousy seconds. I don't know, maybe it really hurt THAT bad and Joe thought he was going to be injured. It just showed he had no heart. And, there was aguy with a broken elbow that begged to fight. I bet Mitichyan would not have tapped even with a broken elbow.

Isaac · 09-20-2007, 03:43 PM

im gonna have to go with serra on this season. from what ive seen in the 4th season he truly likes to help people and better them at mma. i understand why he picked Joe first.because he didnt want to take any chances that hughes would pick him, he didnt wan tto coach against one of his guys from back home

subgenius · 09-20-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fullonshred

I am down with Hughes for the season. You know, I read over and over what a D*** Hughes is supposed to be, but nobody seems to have any "real" specifics. Just "Hughes is a D***", and it gets perpetuated on the boards.

If Serra is pissed at Hughes for saying GSP would beat him more often than not then he better be ready to be pissed at a LOT of people. Cause a lot of people feel the same as Matt Hughes about that.

So far Serra is the one acting like a total A-Hole, and Hughes is looking pretty smart. I could see in Serra's boys face that he ain't really a fighter. He likes BJJ and all that, but he doesn't have the fire in him. I was 95% sure he was going to lose. And I agree, to Tap with six seconds was weak. Sit and Spin, Matt Serra said about HIS OWN GUY that "He was looking for a way out of that fight and he found it with that RNC". That speaks volumes.

I also wondered if the guy with the broken elbow was Armenian, and also if he might be kin to Manny G.

I agree about the Serra-Hughes issue. I never thought that Hughes acted or talked like a d--k, but I laughed when Serra said it on TUF-4 and on Inside the UFC when Roghan interviewed Serra. But, now, it has started to wear thin and it has started to make Serra look like the d--k. He should just drop that attitude and move on to training. Serra wants to act like Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock by making TUF-6 about Matt Serra. The show should be about the fighters. I know that they need drama, and Serra-Hughes offers drama, but come off it already.

T-Bone · 09-20-2007, 03:53 PM

I bet Serra's kinda happy that Hughes wasted Mac on his boy Joe.

Funny how Hughes said he doesn't want his kids watching when Serra's on TV...no comment on Dana White?

Serra likens Hughes to the jock who gives wedgies to nerds...that was funny.

subgenius · 09-20-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Bone

I bet Serra's kinda happy that Hughes wasted Mac on his boy Joe.

Funny how Hughes said he doesn't want his kids watching when Serra's on TV...no comment on Dana White?

Serra likens Hughes to the jock who gives wedgies to nerds...that was funny.

But, I bet it's not true. Serra just likes drama. And, that's why he was chosen for this show. That and the WW title. I said it before, why piss off your opponent so bad that they get motivated, train harder, and then beat the snot out of you? Serra may well be digging his own grave here with all of this trash talking.

fullonshred · 09-20-2007, 04:11 PM

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But, I bet it's not true. Serra just likes drama. And, that's why he was chosen for this show. That and the WW title. I said it before, why piss off your opponent so bad that they get motivated, train harder, and then beat the snot out of you? Serra may well be digging his own grave here with all of this trash talking.

Did Serra and Hughes attend the same Highschool? I doubt it and doubt they were even in the same state at the time.

Of course, Dann/Guffa might have asked them to "play up" all this crap just for the Pro-Wrestling crowd that thrives on this kind of BS.

lambo84 · 09-20-2007, 04:14 PM

If I'm remembering correctly, wasn't on one episode of TUF 4 when they were watching the Hughes vs Gracie match and Serra had run his mouth then saying he didn't like Hughes? Then one of the trainers the next day said something about Gracie and Serra got all pissy about that too.

jyd94 · 09-20-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lambo84

If I'm remembering correctly, wasn't on one episode of TUF 4 when they were watching the Hughes vs Gracie match and Serra had run his mouth then saying he didn't like Hughes? Then one of the trainers the next day said something about Gracie and Serra got all pissy about that too.

Hughes came on the TUF that Serra was on and was kind of a dick to GSP at a resturant and an overall dick during his guest spot there. Then that cobra kai trainer whats his name was talking about he loved watching hughes (who serra already didn't like) beat the **** out of gracie (serra is a student of thier 'school') and they got into it. I agree about serras impression of hughes but he himself is getting carried away with it, probably for the 'good' of the show in his mind.

F_B · 09-20-2007, 05:38 PM

I'm not suprised Joe Scarola lost. He didn't look like he wanted to be there and he didn't look like he wanted to win. Mac Danzig reminds me of Ed Herman v2.0.

I felt really bad that Mitichyan I hope he gets a shot in the future to be on TUF or UFC. I wonder what his style was. Hopfully judo.

WarDawg · 09-20-2007, 05:43 PM

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Six more seconds! SIX!!! Anybody could have taken the pain for six lousy seconds. I don't know, maybe it really hurt THAT bad and Joe thought he was going to be injured. It just showed he had no heart. And, there was aguy with a broken elbow that begged to fight. I bet Mitichyan would not have tapped even with a broken elbow.

I agree with ya Subby. But let me explain a Triangle choke. There really is NO pain involved at all. What it does is pinch off the artery of blood flow on both sides of the neck. Ive been there and done that. I mean it might be a little discomfort but not pain like a Kumora or arm Bar. All that would have happened was Serra guy would have passed out . Thats all it really does. It makes you see stars even in training. I personally would have held and passed out. A triangle that SLOW in developing was easy enough to get out of. Especially for a Black Belt in JJ . We are taught escapes and the escape was there for 3-5 seconds easy. He had big doubts about himself. Matt S knew it. But give the guy credit for trying but his HEART wasn't in it. WarDawg

subgenius · 09-20-2007, 05:54 PM

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I agree with ya Subby. But let me explain a Triangle choke. There really is NO pain involved at all. What it does is pinch off the artery of blood flow on both sides of the neck. Ive been there and done that. I mean it might be a little discomfort but not pain like a Kumora or arm Bar. All that would have happened was Serra guy would have passed out . Thats all it really does. It makes you see stars even in training. I personally would have held and passed out. A triangle that SLOW in developing was easy enough to get out of. Especially for a Black Belt in JJ . We are taught escapes and the escape was there for 3-5 seconds easy. He had big doubts about himself. Matt S knew it. But give the guy credit for trying but his HEART wasn't in it. WarDawg

Yeah, you have that right. I guess, for my part, what gets me mad has to do with the reaction after the fight. And, the preview of next week's episode where we will have to watch Joe go on and on and look suicidal about the loss. In my way of thinking, I would rather get choked out and put to sleep than to go on and on and cry and get depressed about losing.

I don't want to say that reactions to a loss should not include some crying. In some cases, my heart thawed out when I watched a guy lose. Take Sammy Morgan, for example, after Luke Cummo KO'd Sammy with a sweet knee. Sammy fought hard and you could tell he had no give up in him. When he woke up after the KO, he cried. He kept saying, "I didn't make it. I didn't make it." You could tell how much it meant to him.

I wanted to see Morgan fight more. Granted, he has not done well since he was on TUF-2, but I could not fault him for his heart on the show.

WorkingStiff · 09-20-2007, 06:10 PM

I'm not really rooting for 1 camp over another. I just want to see some good training and good fights. The thing that surprises me (based on next week's preview) is that it looks like Scarola wants to go home. I can understand being depressed about the loss, but Serra had his back to pick him first, and he IS a BJJ blackbelt, so at this point you better suck it up and stay and help train and roll with your teammates.

Then again it could be just the way it was edited, and I know that discussion has come up before.