UFC 76 Results

Avenue_Brawler · 09-23-2007, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

The myth of PRIDE Fighting's superiority died tonight.

Quoted for truth.

subgenius · 09-23-2007, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by p19101

He refered to the maincard when he said 1 didn't go the distance, Shogun vs Griffin.

That's why I said, "...if you look at the undercard." Did you read my post?

Nasty-J · 09-23-2007, 01:23 AM

Give Forrest credit. But what the hell is wrong with shogun? He was a complete slob tonight. Thats one of the worst cases of a fighter gassing i've ever seen, and coming from the #1 ranked LHW is ridiculous

NWCrazy · 09-23-2007, 01:24 AM

I must congratulate Forrest. He definitely deserved to win.

I am eating massive quantities of crows. Anyone have any salt and pepper?

Cas2910 · 09-23-2007, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

Shogun went down. Tapped out. Add him to the list of PRIDE Fighters that were supposedly so much better than the UFC Fighters and that have gone down to crushing defeats in the octagon. I am sorry to say this, but the myth of PRIDE Fighting's superiority died tonight.

And, the myth that Chuck Liddell was the best LWh also died tonight. Keith Jardine went out and delivered a great fight for himself. The Dean of Mean just went up many notches on the ladder for the LHW division. And, he can look over his shoulder and see Forrest Griffin smiling at him.

And yes, I bet points on both Jardine and Griffin for the win!

Completely agree on both these points. maybe its something with the transition from organization, but i have said that pride fighters have been overrated in their ufc debuts.

Liddell never looked good in this fight, i think he won the first round close, and lost the next two because he failed to connect big on anything. I was thinking about who he had fought previously before rampage i think that i overrated him by seeing him defeat fighters that arent at the same quality as they are now in the LHW division. he could handily defeat ortiz and horn, and you can even say randy in their third fight wasnt the best randy, but seeing that the talent has gone up and Chuck has slowly getting older i dont see him dominating anymore. its pretty obvious now but i had such high hopes for a comeback thinking he could still fight at the top level.

sitnspin · 09-23-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nasty-J

Give Forrest credit. But what the hell is wrong with shogun? He was a complete slob tonight. Thats one of the worst cases of a fighter gassing i've ever seen, and coming from the #1 ranked LHW is ridiculous

I want to know if he was sick or something. When Randy was breaking down the fights a couple of days ago, he said Forrest would win because it's different rules and the cage is different, but then he said something like, "there are other factors too that I'm aware of, but I'm not going to discuss them right now."

WarDawg · 09-23-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by riversideblues

Fitch Fitch Fitch!!!

Ha! you lose Diego fans.

FYI-> TOLD YOU SO!!!

Fitch looked excellent tonight. While I no little of him, he looked to be a major force to be reckoned with in the 170. He looked big. He just out power Diego . Was a very good fight . Diego had nothing to be ashamed of. He fought very hard himself. Great fight. WarDawg

Elder · 09-23-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

It was a close match, and the first round could have gone either way. Fitch won the second, while Sanchez won the third. I call it another lousy decision. But, I blame Sanchez for allowing the fight (yet again) to go the distance.

I didn't have Sanchez winning any of those rounds... but then again, no one seems to truly know how rounds are scored nowadays. Hell, Rogan didn't even know. That's something that the UFC needs to urgently work on.

I wonder what the chances of Sanchez dropping down to 155 are... he just seems to lack the power that guys like Fitch have.

p19101 · 09-23-2007, 01:27 AM

Props to Fitch, he fought smart but quite boring.

Nasty-J · 09-23-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sitnspin

I want to know if he was sick or something. When Randy was breaking down the fights a couple of days ago, he said Forrest would win because it's different rules and the cage is different, but then he said something like, "there are other factors too that I'm aware of, but I'm not going to discuss them right now."

I'm gonna have to agree. I don't believe shogun wouldn't fully prepare for any fight

WarDawg · 09-23-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sitnspin

I want to know if he was sick or something. When Randy was breaking down the fights a couple of days ago, he said Forrest would win because it's different rules and the cage is different, but then he said something like, "there are other factors too that I'm aware of, but I'm not going to discuss them right now."

I think it was of a hole in Shoguns fighting technic that Griffin was going to be able capitalize on. Thats what I read into it. IMO WarDawg

subgenius · 09-23-2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Elder

I didn't have Sanchez winning any of those rounds... but then again, no one seems to truly know how rounds are scored nowadays. Hell, Rogan didn't even know. That's something that the UFC needs to urgently work on.

I wonder what the chances of Sanchez dropping down to 155 are... he just seems to lack the power that guys like Fitch have.

Here is the Sherdog PBP:

Round 1
Diego sprinted out with a right hand and tried a single-leg, which Fitch stuffed. The crowd grew impatient as the fighters leaned against the cage for the next two minutes. Fitch pushed off and landed a right hand before Diego took him down. Fitch stood back up and returned the favor with a single-leg of his own. From the bottom, Sanchez went for an armbar but he couldn't secure position. Stuffed against the fencing, Diego went for the other arm but Fitch defended. Close round. 10-9 for Fitch.

Round 2
Fitch sprawled on a Sanchez single-leg and drug him to the mat. Diego rose to his feet and tackled Fitch immediately. A scramble ensued, and Fitch took Sanchez's back with double hooks. Sanchez escaped but was slammed back to the canvas. Fitch scored with right hands to the body from his opponent's guard and landed a hard right handed hammer fist to Sanchez's jaw as the "TUF" veteran went for an armbar. 10-9 for Fitch.

Round 3
Sanchez pulls guard with a tight guillotine, which sends the crowd into a frenzy. Fitch patiently fought the hold and escaped. Sanchez, from his back in full guard, then worked for a Kimura on Fitch's right arm. For the text three minutes, Fitch held Sanchez tightly to the canvas and struck with his left hand. Sanchez locked on a deep triangle in the final minute but Fitch gamely escaped. Close round. Sherdog.com gives the frame to Sanchez on the strength of two close submissions. Jon Fitch takes a split decision, 30-27 and 29-28. One judge saw it 29-28 for Sanchez.

I agreed with that one judge. But, like I said, that first round could have easily gone either way. I give round one to Sanchez simply because he went for submissions while Fitch just seemed to do nothing. I mean, Fitch got a takedown as well as Sanchez, so the takedowns did not win him that round. I guess being on top and landing one punch might sway it to Fitch, but Sanchez seemed more aggressive.

Nasty-J · 09-23-2007, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WarDawg

I think it was of a hole in Shoguns fighting technic that Griffin was going to be able capitalize on. Thats what I read into it. IMO WarDawg

Griffen did have a good game plan, But Shogun pretty much gave up half way into the 2nd round. Thats what we are talking about

WarDawg · 09-23-2007, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

It was a close match, and the first round could have gone either way. Fitch won the second, while Sanchez won the third. I call it another lousy decision. But, I blame Sanchez for allowing the fight (yet again) to go the distance.

Sub I have to disagree on this one. Fitch controlled the fight .He pounded Sanchez while on the ground. At least he got the better of the two. Sanchez tried a few submissions and credit given to them. But if a submission don't work, then it's like a punch that didn't knock the other guy out. But I'm not a judge . Just in my own home.LOL.... I had Fitch with two solid rounds.Not a question about it. IMO WarDawg

subgenius · 09-23-2007, 01:39 AM

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Sub I have to disagree on this one. Fitch controlled the fight .He pounded Sanchez while on the ground. At least he got the better of the two. Sanchez tried a few submissions and credit given to them. But if a submission don't work, then it's like a punch that didn't knock the other guy out. But I'm not a judge . Just in my own home.LOL.... I had Fitch with two solid rounds.Not a question about it. IMO WarDawg

Read the PBP from Sherdog, if you don't believe me. That first round was close, IMO. And, I thought that it was a decent fight. Split decision. But, I hate any decision. Fitch and Sanchez both let me down by going to a decision. But, this whole card had been a let down in that regard. An event called "Knockout" that had ZERO KO wins, LOL. It's really funny actually.

FatCat · 09-23-2007, 01:39 AM

I'm a pretty big Diego fan but he got handled tonight. You could make a case for 2 of the rounds and a split in his favor wouldn't have been a crime IMO. I only gave Diego the 3rd round but even Diego knew he lost. Fitch is the real deal.

x.MMA.x · 09-23-2007, 01:43 AM

I can't believe shogun lost!!! I know Forrest is bigger than him and the big rule change but stil, I wonder what randy was saying about him knowing something but not talkin about it.

FightFan76 · 09-23-2007, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FatCatMC

I'm a pretty big Diego fan but he got handled tonight. You could make a case for 2 of the rounds and a split in his favor wouldn't have been a crime IMO. I only gave Diego the 3rd round but even Diego knew he lost. Fitch is the real deal.

Yeah I was wrong on this one myself; I thought Diego would pressure Fitch and be too much for him. Fitch was just too strong for him, he couldnt hold him or control anywhere tonite and I feel that is what the difference was. I didnt realize Fitch was that big of a WW either, he looked much bigger than Diego.

Nasty-J · 09-23-2007, 01:43 AM

Ha ha "UFC 76: Decision"

subgenius · 09-23-2007, 01:44 AM

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Ha ha "UFC 76: Decision"

LOL. THAT made me laugh so hard I nearly spit out my drink.