Originally Posted by fight2night

More often then not, in MMA competition the guy on top is considered to be the one in the dominant position. In a BJJ tourney it's almost the complete opposite. Most people try to pull guard and the one who is in the closed guard doesn't want to be there cause they could get submitted. You rarely ever see someone submitting someone on the bottom while there in their opponents guard. The only occasion that I can think of where this has happened is Pe De Pano vs. Monson, where Monson used a can-opener to try an open his guard and Pe De Pano tapped. Monson got disqualified even though it was perfectly legal to use it to open up the guard of your opponent and a brawl ensued.

In MMA we have seen it time and time again where a very gifted wrestler gets a great take down on his opponent and does nothing with it except Lay n' Pray his way to victory which is complete BS. If the fighter on the bottom is outworking his opponent on top and constantly going for submissions, trying for sweeps, elbowing and punching them then he should get points based off of his aggression. Now if the guy on top is mauling the opponent on the bottom, passing there guard with ease, getting mount, taking there back they should be getting points on aggression and control of their opponent.

As for a failed sub attempt getting points, I don't think any points should be scored for the person trying to get the submission. Why? Well because more often then not the reason why they can't get the submission in is because the defense of there opponent is to good or they get out of it. Look at Lutter vs. Franklin for example. Lutter had Rich in a deep armbar but escaped it thus nullifying the submission and canceling out any points Lutter would have got for it. Submissions that would of ended the fight but didn't cause of the person was saved by the bell should most def. be counted point wise though.