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07-21-2008, 09:08 AM
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Champion
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,463
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Originally Posted by kev0
How can you justify ranking Brandon Vera at LHW?? I can understand ranking a fighter after one victory in a new weight class, but if your gonna do that then surely you consider Anderson Silva's victory over Irvin slightly more impressive than Vera getting a decision over Reese Effing Andy?? Or is it Vera's last couple fights at HW that made you rank him over guys like Shogun, Jardine, Sokoudjou, and Hammil?
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I just feel that based on what I have seen him do prior to his last 2 fights that he is a legitmate top 10 LHW. Plus his last 2 losses were against top 5 HWs and last night he seemed to run out of gas but looked really good up until then. I also give Andy some credit b/c the guy was strong as hell and I believe he has that style that is just hard to look good against. Jardine is inconsistent, Shogun has yet to win a fight in the UFC, and Soko really has not shown me that much to this point. I am not saying I am right or wrong this is just how I see it.....
Last edited by FightFan76; 07-21-2008 at 12:01 PM.
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07-21-2008, 09:45 AM
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Champion
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: VA/DC
Posts: 1,095
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FightFan76
I just feel that based on what I have seen him do prior to his last 2 fights that he is a legitmate top 10. Plus his last 2 losses were against top 5 HWs and last night he seemed to run out of gas but looked really good up until then. I also give Andy some credit b/c the guy was strong as hell and I believe he has that style that is just hard to look good against. Jardine is inconsistent, Shogun has yet to win a fight in the UFC, and Soko really has not shown me that much to this point. I am not saying I am right or wrong this is just how I see it.....
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Why you have to justify your rankings which are not official rankings, and are based on personal opinions is beyond me.
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07-21-2008, 12:00 PM
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Champion
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,463
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Originally Posted by Cuts O Meat
Why you have to justify your rankings which are not official rankings, and are based on personal opinions is beyond me.
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Well kevo wanted to know why I ranked Vera the way I did and this is a forum where we disscuss our opinions. I have no problem being questioned on my rankings and this being a forum is why I come here to state my opinion and give reasons to back them up. I really dont see what the problem is.....
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07-21-2008, 02:11 PM
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~the Big Homie
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,147
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HW:
1. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
2. Fabricio Werdum
3. Gabriel Gonzaga
4. Heath Herring
5. Frank Mir
6. Cain Velasquez
7. Cheik Kongo
8. Shane Carwin
9. Brock Lesnar
10. Jake O'Brien
LHW:
1. Forrest Griffin
2. Rampage Jackson
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Wanderlei Silva
5.Lyoto Machida
6. Keith Jardine
7. Rashad Evans
8. Shogun Rua
9. Brandon Vera
10. Sokoudjou
MW:
1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Rich Franklin
4. Yushin Okami
5. Nate Marquardt
6. Patrick Cote
7. Martin Kampmann
8. Michael Bisping
9. Ricardo Almeida
10. Thales Leitas
WW:
1. GSP
2. Jon Fitch
3. Thiago Alves
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Diego Sanchez
6. Matt Hughes
7. Karo Parisyan
8. Mike Swick
9. Dustin Hazelett
10. Matt Serra
LW:
1. BJ Penn
2. Sean Sherk
3. Joe Stevenson
4. Kenny Florian
5. Roger Huerta
6. Clay Guida
7. Tyson Griffin
8. Nate Diaz
9. Gray Maynard
10. Frankie Edgar
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I've got a strategy, it's called whoop that ass!"
-Quinton Jackson
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07-21-2008, 04:44 PM
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Up and Coming
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 129
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FightFan76
I just feel that based on what I have seen him do prior to his last 2 fights that he is a legitmate top 10 LHW. Plus his last 2 losses were against top 5 HWs and last night he seemed to run out of gas but looked really good up until then. I also give Andy some credit b/c the guy was strong as hell and I believe he has that style that is just hard to look good against. Jardine is inconsistent, Shogun has yet to win a fight in the UFC, and Soko really has not shown me that much to this point. I am not saying I am right or wrong this is just how I see it.....
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Fair enough.. I certainly didn't mean to insult you or attack your rankings in anyway..
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"I wanted to instill a false sense of confidence in him"- Ace
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07-21-2008, 05:05 PM
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FF Handicapper
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,441
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1. Big Nog (1)
2. Frank Mir (2)
3. Fabricio Werdum (3)
4. Gabriel Gonzaga(4)
5. Cheick Kongo (6)
6.Cain Velasquez(9)
7. Heath Herring (7)
8. Justin Mcully(8)
9. Eddie Sanchez(10)
10. Shawn Carwin (-)
LHW
1. Forrest Griffen (2)
2. Lyoto Machida (3)
3. Rampage Jackson (1)
4. Chuck Liddell (4)
5. Wanderlei Silva(5)
6. Shogun Rua (6)
7. Rashad Evans (7)
8. Thiago Silva (8)
9. Keith Jardine (9)
10. Sokudjou (10)
MW
1. Anderson Silva (1)
2. Yushin Okami (2)
3. Dan Henderson (3)
4. Thales Leites (4)
5. Martin Kampmann (5)
6. Rich Franklin(6)
7. Patrick Cote (7)
8. Nate Marquardt(8)
9. Jason Macdonald (9)
10. Michael Bisping (10)
WW
1. Georges St. Pierre (1)
2. John Fitch (2)
3. Diego Sanchez (3)
4. Josh Koscheck (4)
5. Thiago Alves (5)
6. Mike Swick(6)
7. Matt Hughes (7)
8. Marcus Davis (8)
9. Karo Paryisan(9)
10. Matt Serra(10)
LW
1. Bj Penn(1)
5. Kenny Florian (2)
3. Roger Huerta (3)
4. Joe Stevenson (4)
5. Sean Sherk (5)
6. Tyson Griffen (6)
7. Spencer Fisher (7)
8. Clay Guida (8)
9. Mac Danzig (9)
10. Nate Diaz (10)
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07-21-2008, 10:43 PM
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Champion
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kev0
Fair enough.. I certainly didn't mean to insult you or attack your rankings in anyway..
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Oh nah man I didnt take it that way at all, I was just explaining to Cuts O Meat that it is not a big deal if someone questions why I or anybody rank the way we do. Like I stated earlier this is a forum and we are here to disscuss.....
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07-21-2008, 11:55 PM
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Team Nogueira
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Zuffa Corporate Office
Posts: 5,171
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HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
2. Fabricio Werdum
3. Gabriel Gonzaga
4. Heath Herring
5. Cheick Kongo
6. Brandon Vera
7. Frank Mir
8. Brock Lesnar
9. Cain Velasquez
10. Shane Carwin
LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Forrest Griffin
2. Quinton Jackson
3. Lyoto Machida
4. Chuck Liddell
5. Mauricio Rua
6. Rameau Sokoudjou
7. Thiago Silva
8. Wanderlei Silva
9. Keith Jardine
10. Goran Reljic
MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Nathan Marquardt
4. Rich Franklin
5. Yushin Okami
6. Martin Kampmann
7. Patrick Cote
8. Thales Leites
9. Demian Maia
10. Michael Bisping
WELTERWEIGHT
1. George St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Thiago Alves
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Diego Sanchez
6. Matt Hughes
7. Karo Parisyan
8. Dustin Hazelett
9. Mike Swick
10. Marcus Davis
LIGHTWEIGHT
1. BJ Penn
2. Sean Sherk
3. Joe Stevenson
4. Tyson Griffin
5. Kenny Florian
6. Joe Lauzon
7. Roger Huerta
8. Clay Guida
9. Gray Maynard
10. Nate Diaz
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Arlovski - Anderson- Vera - Tavares - Guida - Nick - Nate - Shogun - Parisyan - Penn
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07-22-2008, 12:01 AM
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Top Ranked
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 750
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Frankie Edgar
HW:
1. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
2. Fabricio Werdum
3. Frank Mir
4. Heath Herring
5. Gabriel Gonzaga
6. Cain Velasquez
7. Cheik Kongo
8. Shane Carwin
9. Brock Lesnar
10. Jake O'Brien
LHW:
1. Forrest Griffin
2. Rampage Jackson
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Wanderlei Silva
5.Rashad Evans
6. Keith Jardine
7. Lyoto Machida
8. Shogun Rua
9. Brandon Vera
10. Sokoudjou
MW:
1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Rich Franklin
4. Yushin Okami
5. Patrick Cote
6. Nate Marquardt
7. Martin Kampmann
8. Michael Bisping
9. Ricardo Almeida
10. Thales Leitas
WW:
1. GSP
2. Jon Fitch
3. Thiago Alves
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Diego Sanchez
6. Matt Hughes
7. Karo Parisyan
8. Mike Swick
9. Dustin Hazelett
10. Matt Serra
LW:
1. BJ Penn
2. Sean Sherk
3. Joe Stevenson
4. Kenny Florian
5. Roger Huerta
6. Clay Guida
7. Frankie Edgar ( I know he lost to Maynard but I think that was a fluke in a way)
8. Tyson Griffin
9. Nate Diaz
10. Gray Maynard
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07-22-2008, 08:36 AM
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rotaredoM FF
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: England
Posts: 3,341
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HW:
1. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
2. Fabricio Werdum
3. Gabriel Gonzaga
4. Heath Herring
5. Cheik Kongo
6. Frank Mir
7. Cain Velasquez
8. Shane Carwin
9. Jake O'Brien
10. Antoni Hardonk
LHW:
1. Forrest Griffin
2. Rampage Jackson
3. Lyoto Machida
4. Chuck Liddell
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Keith Jardine
7. Mauricio Rua
8. Rashad Evans
9. Thiago Silva
10. Matt Hamill
MW:
1. Anderson Silva
2. Yushin Okami
3. Rich Franklin
4. Dan Henderson
5. Martin Kampmann
6. Thales Leitas
7. Nate Marquardt
8. Patrick Cote
9. Jason Macdonald
10. Michael Bisping
WW:
1. GSP
2. Jon Fitch
3. Thiago Alves
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Matt Hughes
6. Diego Sanchez
7. Karo Parisyan
8. Matt Serra
9. Mike Swick
10. Kevin Burns
LW:
1. BJ Penn
2. Sean Sherk
3. Joe Stevenson
4. Kenny Florian
5. Roger Huerta
6. Tyson Griffin
7. Clay Guida
8. Gray Maynard
9. Frankie Edgar
10. Nate Diaz
Last edited by Mulla; 07-22-2008 at 10:55 AM.
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07-22-2008, 09:49 AM
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Champion of the Sun
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: South Florida, USA
Posts: 2,101
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HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera
2. Fabricio Werdum
3. Gabriel Gonzaga
4. Cain Velazquez
5. Heath Herring
6. Cheick Kongo
7. Frank Mir
8. Brock Lesnar
9. Shane Carwin
10. Antoni Hardonk
LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Forrest Griffin
2. Lyoto Machida
3. Quinton Jackson
4. Chuck Liddell
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Keith Jardine
7. Mauricio Rua
8. Rashad Evans
9. Sokoudjou
10. Thiago Silva
MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Rich Franklin
4. Nate Marquardt
5. Yushin Okami
6. Martin Kampmann
7. Thales Leites
8. Patrick Cote
9. Ricardo Almeida
10. Michael Bisping
WELTERWEIGHT
1. George St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Josh Koscheck
4. Thiago Alves
5. Diego Sanchez
6. Matt Hughes
7. Karo Parysian
8. Matt Serra
9. Dustin Hazelett
10. Mike Swick
LIGHTWEIGHT
1. BJ Penn
2. Sean Sherk
3. Kenny Florian
4. Joe Stevenson
5. Nate Diaz
6. Gray Maynard
7. Frank Edgar
8. Tyson Griffin
9. Roger Huerta
10. Clay Guida
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07-25-2008, 07:37 PM
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Top Ranked
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 746
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I realize I'm cutting it pretty close to the deadline, but I hope this doesn't cause too much trouble  I waited so I could submit recent entries.
Heavyweight:
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Fabricio Werdum
Gabriel Gonzaga
Heath Herring
Frank Mir
Cheick Kongo
Brock Lesnar
Cain Velasquez
Shane Carwin
Jake O'Brien
Light Heavyweight:
Forrest Griffin
Lyoto Machida
Quinton Jackson
Chuck Liddell
Wanderlei Silva
Keith Jardine
Mauricio Rua
Thiago Silva
Rashad Evans
Rameau Sokoudjou
Middleweight:
Anderson Silva
Rich Franklin
Yushin Okami
Nathan Marquardt
Patrick Cote
Jason McDonald
Martin Kampmann
Ricardo Almeida
Thales Leites
Nate Quarry
Welterweight:
George St. Pierre
Jon Fitch
Josh Koscheck
Thiago Alves
Matt Hughes
Matt Serra
Diego Sanchez
Karo Parysian
Mike Swick
Chris Lytle
Lightweight:
BJ Penn
Sean Sherk
Joe Stevenson
Kenny Florian
Roger Huerta
Clay Guida
Frank Edgar
Tyson Griffin
Hermes Franca
Gray Maynard
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Toshinden's Current Favourites:
1) Randy Couture 2) Georges St. Pierre 3) Dan Henderson
4) Lyoto Machida 5) Patrick Cote
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07-25-2008, 11:14 PM
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Redbull Addict
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fla.
Posts: 73
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HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera
2. Fabricio Werdum
3. Gabriel Gonzaga
4. Heath Herring
5. Frank Mir
6. Chieck Kongo
7. Cain Velasquez
8. Shane Carwin
9. Brock Lesnar
10. Antoni Hardonk
LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Forrest Griffin
2. Quinton Jackson
3. Lyoto Machida
4. Chuck Liddell
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Keith Jardine
7. Mauricio Rua
8. Rameau Sokoudjou
9. Rashad Evans
10. Matt Hamill
MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Rich Franklin
4. Yushin Okami
5. Nate Marquardt
6. Martin Kampmann
7. Patrick Cote
8. Thales Leites
9. Micheal Bisping
10. Chris Leben
WELTERWEIGHT
1. Georges St Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Josh Koscheck
4. Diego Sanchez
5. Thiago Alves
6. Matt Hughes
7. Karo Parisyan
8. Matt Serra
9. Mike Swick
10. Dustin Hazelett
LIGHTWEIGHT
1. BJ Penn
2. Sean Sherk
3. Kenny Florian
4. Joe Stevenson
5. Tyson Griffin
6. Roger Huerta
7. Gray Maynard
8. Frankie Edgar
9. Clay Guida
10. Nate Diaz
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07-30-2008, 03:26 PM
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Champion
Join Date: May 2006
Location: San Marcos, TX (Texas State University)
Posts: 1,671
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Hey guys! I AM BACK!
It has been fun in Maui but I am sure as hell glad to back to be home. Anyway, rankings end tomorrow at 11:59 or until I wake up the following day to tally
Here are my rankings.
HW
1. Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera
2. Fabricio Werdum
3. Gabriel Gonzaga
4. Heath Herring
5. Frank Mir
6.Cheick Kongo
7. Brock Lesnar
8. Cain Velasquez
9. Shane Carwin
10. Antoni Hardonk
LWH
1. Forrest Griffin
2. Rampage Jackson
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Lyoto Machida
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Rashad Evans
7. Thiago Silva
8. Thierry Sokoudjou
9. Keith Jardine
10. Matt Hammill
MW
1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Rich Franklin
4. Nate Marquardt
5. Yushin Okami
6. Chris Leben
7. Martin Kampmann
8. Patrick Cote
9. Michael Bisping
10.Kendall Grove
WW
1. GSP
2. Jon Fitch
3. Josh Kosheck
4. Thiago Alves
5. Diego Sanchez
6. Matt Hughes
7. Mike Swick
8. Karo Paryisan
9. Dustin Hazellet
10. Matt Serra
LW
1. BJ Penn
2. Sean Sherk
3. Kenny Florian
4. Roger Huerta
5. Joe Stevenson
6. Clay Guida
7. Tyson Griffin
8. Gray Maynard
9. Frankie Edgar
10. Mac Danzig
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Stillstanding
 This is for those who told me that Griffin would never be champ.
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07-30-2008, 03:29 PM
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Champion of the Sun
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: South Florida, USA
Posts: 2,101
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Hey, welcome back man! Looking forward to these rankings, thanks!
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07-30-2008, 10:22 PM
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$kala
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,680
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HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera
2. Fabricio Werdum
3. Frank Mir
4. Heath Herring
5. Gabriel Gonzaga
6. Cain Velasquez
7. Chieck Kongo
8. Shane Carwin
9. Brock Lesnar
10. Antoni Hardonk
LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Forrest Griffin
2. Quinton Jackson
3. Lyoto Machida
4. Chuck Liddell
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Mauricio Rua
7. Rameau Sokoudjou
8. Rashad Evans
9. Keith Jardine
10. Thiago Silva
MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva
2. Yushin Okami
3. Rich Franklin
4. Dan Henderson
5. Nate Marquardt
6. Patrick Cote
7. Martin Kampmann
8. Thales Leites
9. Chris Leban
10. Micheal Bisping
WELTERWEIGHT
1. Georges St Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Thiago Alves
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Diego Sanchez
6. Matt Hughes
7. Karo Parisyan
8. MikeSwick
9. Dustin Hazelett
10. Akihiro Gono
LIGHTWEIGHT
1. BJ Penn
2. Sean Sherk
3. Joe Stevenson
4. Roger Huerta
5. Kenny Florian
6. Tyson Griffin
7. Clay Guida
8. Gray Maynard
9. Frankie Edgar
10. Matt Wiman
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08-03-2008, 01:37 AM
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Champion
Join Date: May 2006
Location: San Marcos, TX (Texas State University)
Posts: 1,671
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Don't worry, I haven't forgot about this. I am with family so I should have it finished by tomorrow night.
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Stillstanding
 This is for those who told me that Griffin would never be champ.
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08-03-2008, 10:05 AM
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Champion
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stillstanding
Don't worry, I haven't forgot about this. I am with family so I should have it finished by tomorrow night. 
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Its all good bro, thanx for the effort you out into it......
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