spiritofbattle

this has got to be a formal type of ******** for points. you have to be kidding me, do you really believe boxer vs kick boxer of equal talent the boxer would prevail?

its simple, kick boxer has more ammo. sure if the boxer got a good hit to the chin, he may ko the kick boxer. anything can happen in a fight, but my money will go with the kicker every time.

spiritofbattle

of course he may not do as well, you are changing the rules of the post. initial question was kick boxer vs boxer.

trigrhappy

kickboxer for sure. has more weapons at his disposal.

Crashsti

oh, i am sorry. i changed the rules of a post. whats the penalty for that? i really hate these comparison threads. they serve no point other than for idle conversation and to attempt to protect the honor of certain sports or athletes. example, Tyson vs. Mark Hunt, both in thier prime. who wins? first off, who cares. secondly, it does'nt matter because the fight can't happen. we can speculate until the cows come home and it does'nt change a thing. the topic is watered down when it gets generic, Boxer vs. Kickboxer. which boxer, which kickboxer? which weight class, how much training, how is thier chin? style vs. style does'nt play out anymore. the differance now is that we're comparing sports and its not Karate vs. Kung fu this time around.

monster

my first introduction to thai boxer v boxer was k1 dynamite 2005 masato v akira ohigashi.

Masato totally outclassed and frustrated ohigashi with hard hititng leg kicks. And while ohigahsi was wincing in pain and tryin to retaliate with kicks of his own (which were useless) masato landed punches . In the end it was a tko with ohigahsi falling to the ground after being kicked in the leg again and again.

I think a thai fighter will have the advantage overall as they are trained to hit hard and take hard hits. Its impossible to wlak in against a thai boxer without at least learning some kicks first just as its impossible for the thai boxer to use kicks only against a good boxer.

Both have to use hands and feet and it will then depend on the fighter.

Knight

Hi guys, Ya I know. I’m new here but very interested

Boxing, karate, kickboxing… what ever are training tools far as I can tell.
There all used for specific purposes and I think totally depends on the abilities, attitude and drive of the person making use of them.

There are only so many hours in a day, and so many days in a week. Boxers train exclusively to fight up close and personal. Good boxers may train over 8 hours a day so at the most they train for endurance and close combat AND they are true fighters (ones I”ve met anyway). They take their art seriously)

Problem with Martial artist is that they have to train to fight up close (fist) AND long range (feet) along with endurance and that’s not counting holds and throws Given the number of hand and feet combinations compared to boxers, a martial artist with the same drive as a boxer would have to train 16 hours a day. (Give or take) to be as proficient

In some of the demonstrations we have had we tried to set up matches between boxers and martial artiest. It always came down to the same issues. If the martial artists use their feet boxers don’t want to compete. If marital artists can’t use their feet, then they don’t want to compete. And who can blame them?

I’ve read on here that someone considers that if they never give a martial artist a chance to use his legs he would win… But that is the problem isn’t it. Boxer wants you in close, leg man wants you out a bit. Boxers job is to get close and stay there. Leg man’s job is to keep you back and keep you there … its all strategy. Its always strategy. The fight doesn’t always go to the toughest fighter. Usually goes to the smartest.

I also think Thai fighters are in a class of their own. Do you have any idea how long they spend toughening up their legs and shins? I took one hit from a friend who had trained like that.. he kicked me once and it felt like he hit me with a HUGE hammer. If you’re going to go up against a Thai I would suggest putting away the heavy bag for a while and start shinning bamboo… a lot

MTKrav911

Interesting post that I cannot totally disagree with considering a Thai Boxer turned Boxer named "Jan Dang" (sp) ALMOST upset a Mexican boxing champ back in March in the undercard to Pacquiao/Diaz.

In the ring toe to toe? With rules of Boxing vs Kickboxing? The boxer would lose. All a kickboxer has to do is blast them in the leg/ knee, and you'll see the hands of the greatest boxers fall. I dont care who they are or think they are. A good kickboxer landing a good even average leg kick, will demoralize the boxer. Nobody likes getting kicked in the knee IMO. And the way Boxers have that side-lined stance? I hope theyll still be able to walk after a decent kickboxer kicks them in that knee.

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Knight

OH man aint that the truth.. But that’s true I think for anyone. Of all the instructors ive trained under, they all had one thing in common. Strategy.. Remove a mans legs... then pick them apart at leisure.. But having said that, IF a boxer (or anyone else) can stay in close enough to effectively neutralize a kick you stand a very good chance of being numbed up enough from a solid punch to the head or a devastating uppercut to formulate an effective attack. Man, even if they get a good shot in and crack a rib… With their hand speed.. I don’t know, Skill in ones art I think would be the determining factor. Plus I find it takes a lot more effort to throw continuous kicks than punches. Which is why I think endurance training is vital when fighting an experienced fighter of any class