Originally Posted by Unknown

Considering that mike Tyson is before my time I haven’t heard him say that. And when I refer to 'Kung fu guys' I refer to the people who have just went and had a few classes and suddenly think that they can beat up anyone not someone who has been doing it for their entire life. Believe me there are a lot more of those then there boxers. One of the first things you learn in a boxing match is that you are not invincible. You don't really learn that in the self defense programs out there.

Knocking someone out last longer than choking someone out. I have done both. And you would be surprised how little pain you feel if you break a bone when your adrenalin is pumping. And one more thing think about what would happen if you putting an arm bar on someone with a knife in their hand. When standing up you can use (as Bas puts it) "ambiance" and you can keep your distance from the opponent incase they do have a knife in their hand. Believe me there are a lot more risks going to the ground in a street fight than there are rewards.

But my argument isn't really against BJJ it's against street fighting. Boxing isn't perfect for street fighting either but it just makes it easier to get out of it. And in a competition the BJJ fighter has an advantage (unless the boxer can sprawl). But street fighting is no rules and can involve weapons. And once you add weapons, all of the skills in MMA become useless.

By the way my father (a corrections officer) deals with all kinds of people every day who were in a street fight to the DEATH. And if you do that then you have lost too. But do what you want Brandon, I am sure that bubba can take care of you.