Please respond to this mepersoner, since you ignored it in the other thread and mentioned you would discuss it if a thread was opened.
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Originally Posted by mepersoner
Nog's BJJ for MMA is the best in the world, his subs are the best, his ground game is not 100% better than everyone's though.
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Nogīs ground is not better than anybody else????? Ok, look at what you just wrote.. you said his BJJ is the best in the world, but his ground game is not better than anybody elses.. does that make sense to you? Not me.
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Originally Posted by mepersoner
There are a lot of better wrestlers than him - and Arona was one of them.
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Arona is also a BJJ fighter.. if you say Nogīs BJJ is the best in the world, I donīt see how you can say Arona is better.. is this making any sense to you? And are you even aware that Arona has never fought Big Nog? So how can you even try to compare them.
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Originally Posted by mepersoner
I think Nog would have a hard time getting Wanderlei down. You think Nog's wrestling is better than Rampage's wrestling? Sakuraba's wrestling?
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Oh yeah.. the best BJJ fighter in the world is going to have a hard time taking somebody down, ok, now it all makes sense. And yes Nogīs wrestling is lightyears ahead of Rampageīs. Infact Rampage himself as said on many occasions that he is not THAT GOOD of a wrestler. Just because he slammed Arona doesnīt make him a better wrestler, and it was his skull which hit Arona in the face that knocked Arona out, you can look at Rampageīs 3 inch scar over his eye for the proof. I canīt even believe you are comparing Quintonīs ground game to Nogīs. What are you even basing Rampageīs wrestling skills on? Did you see him submit anybody in Pride yet? If I remember correctly, Sakuraba submitted HIM. Rampageīs strength has always been his stand up and vicious style. Although we should be fair and say that he has been concentrating more on his ground game for the past year.
Sakuraba is an excellent ground fighter, but once again what are you basing his superior ground skills to Nogīs on? Not trying to say he is not good on the ground, that would be ridiculous, but you are comparing him to the best, so what makes his ground game better?.
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Originally Posted by mepersoner
Silva's ground game has flaws? Like what? When has Silva been in trouble on the ground? People love to say that because he has a very defensive guard, however, I wouldn't say he has serious flaws in his ground game.
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So Silva was not in trouble against Arona?????? Donīt make me laugh. It was more than just "defensive guard" in the Arona fight.. he just didnīt have a chance against Aronaīs ground game. You need to be fair, even if we all hate Arona, lol.
Silvaīs ground game is average, if anything you should have given justice and said that Nogīs ground game is excellent and Silvaīs is average. His takedown defense is not bad, but defending a takedown, and actually fighting on the ground are two different things. Mirko CroCopīs takedown is probably the best I have seen yet.. but his ground game is not that good, at least not compared to his takedown defense.
The whole MMA world knows Nog is the man on the ground, and his standup has gotten incredibly better since training with the Cubans.
I love Silva, he is a great fighter, but letīs be realistic, we are talking about Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Prideīs second best HW, former Pride Heavyweight Champion of the World and only the Fedor the living Steel Amtrak was able take that title away from him.