My Ufc 61 Picks

yaoza11 · 07-05-2006, 03:25 PM

UFC 61 BITTER RIVALS

Tim Sylvia vs Andrei Arlovski
Record: 23-2 Record: 11-4

Pick: Andrei Arlovski
Tim “The Maine-iac” Syliva may only have 2 losses but one of them are to “The Pitbull” Andrei Arlovski. In there first match-up Arlovski beat Sylvia by submission but first landing a straight right knocking Sylvia down to set it up. The second time Arlovski rocked Sylvia but couldn’t continue to poor it on as Sylvia got back to his feet and rocked Arlovski, winning by KO. I see Arlovski able to rock Sylvia again.. Sylvia got lucky the second time around.

Tito Ortiz vs Ken Shamrock
Record: 14-4 Record: 26-10-2

Pick: Ken Shamrock
I never been a fan of Tito Ortiz, I truthfully didn’t like the guy. But the way he trained his fighters on TUF he gained my respect. I see Shamrock as being to old and really not in the mind set to fight. But I feel that Tito Ortiz is still immature and still an ******* that Shamrock thinks he is. Just look at the way he fought Forrest Griffin.

Dan Christison vs Frank Mir
Record: 8-4 Record: 8-2

Pick: Frank Mir
Out of shape and out of his mindset, Frank Mir lost to Marcio “Pe De Pano” Cruz. Out matched, out jiu-jitsued, but Frank Mir will come back this time and will prove why he was he Heavyweight Champion.

Josh Burkman vs Josh Neer
Record: 17-3 Record: 17-3-1

Pick: Josh Neer
Josh Burkman’s UFC wins are over Sam Morgan, and Drew Fickett. Josh Neer has a loss to Drew Fickett but holds wins over Derrick Noble, Forrest Petz,, Melvin Guillard, and Joe Stevenson. Josh Neer had a bad cut over his eye but still caught Melvin Guillard in a rear-naked choke hold, and pretty much man handled a strong wrestler in Joe Stevenson.

Yves Edwards vs Joe Stevenson
Record: 28-9-1 Record: 28-7

Pick: Yves Edwards
Hard match to pick here, both are coming off UFC losses and both were unimpressive in those losses. But! Those where both 170 lb. fights and this fight will be at 155 lb. Joe Stevenson is a strong wrestler only if he can keep his opponent down but I believe Yves Edwards can stay mobile and not get taken down.

Drew Fickett vs Kurt Pellegrino
Record: 29-4 Record: 13-1

Pick: Drew Fickett
4 of Kurt Pellegrino’s 6 win’s are by submission. But Drew Fickett has 16 submission wins. This fight wont be stand up for long. Experience will go far in this match.

Jeff Monson vs Anthony Perosh
Record: 23-5 Record: 5-1

Pick: Jeff Monson
Jeff Monson’s two big losses are to Chuck Liddell and Forrest Griffin but both were by Decision. Anthony Perosh’s 5 wins are all by submission but Monson holds 13 wins by submission. I don’t feel that Perosh could get Monson in a submission with Monson being so small.

Gilbert Aldana vs Cheick Kongo
Record: 5-1 Record: 17-2-1

Pick: Cheick Kongo
Gilbert Aldana has big power and is a KO fighter but the man he’s facing I feel has good up side to him. He record is 7-2, the two losses are to Rodney Faverus 23-11-3 and Gilbert Yvel 28-11-1. I’m taking Cheick Kongo by KO.

Hermes Franca vs Joe Jordan
Record: 13-5 Record: 23-9-2

Pick: Hermes Franca
Joe Jordan has losses to UFC fighters such as Melvin Guillard, Jens Pulver, and Jorge Gurgel. Hermes Franca was one time the #2 fighter in the lightweight division (Yves Edwards being #1). Franca is on a career comeback and he should just keep moving along.

Anti-Sanchez · 07-05-2006, 03:31 PM

Whoah.............

Ken Shamrock! You've got quite a pair to pick Ken in that fight. I'm no TIto fan either but I'm pretty confident he'll beat the emotional wreck Ken Shamrock.

TOF · 07-05-2006, 04:50 PM

Ken beating Tito?

Even if I hated Tito, I'd still agree that Tito would wreck Ken.

angryjonny · 07-05-2006, 06:46 PM

What's up yaoza? Are you too cool to participate in the predictions contest? You missed out on winning some major points.

PghPens71 · 07-05-2006, 08:30 PM

i love the mir pick but i agree that taking shamrock to win is crazy. but hey, i guess that's why they fight the fights...

yaoza11 · 07-05-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by angryjonny

What's up yaoza? Are you too cool to participate in the predictions contest? You missed out on winning some major points.

I like being able to go in depth with my picks and have people read them.. thats why i take my time to research and write.

angryjonny · 07-05-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by yaoza11

I like being able to go in depth with my picks and have people read them.. thats why i take my time to research and write.

It's cool man. I like reading your analysis too. Just saying you get to earn some bragging rights if you win.

DrumzCT · 07-05-2006, 10:40 PM

Yeah you should definitely participate, you definitely do your research. Can't help but disagree with Ken over Tito but everything else I agree with. Neer and Burkman could be close though but I think Neer will have more control as long as he doesn't get overwhelmed.

ShaggyDave · 07-06-2006, 03:18 AM

I think Ken is going to pull if off too. The guy keeps getting told how old he is and perhaps just in this for the money but has anyone actually been watching the guys fights? The knee to Kimo's head was one of the best finishes I have seen in a long time. He is coming off two losses to Franklin and Sakuraba, but I consider both of these fighters to be better than Tito. Look for Ken to pull out the ankle lock in good old timey fashion. hahahaha

jonnyboyee · 07-07-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by yaoza11

UFC 61 BITTER RIVALS

Tim Sylvia vs Andrei Arlovski
Record: 23-2 Record: 11-4

Pick: Andrei Arlovski
Tim “The Maine-iac” Syliva may only have 2 losses but one of them are to “The Pitbull” Andrei Arlovski. In there first match-up Arlovski beat Sylvia by submission but first landing a straight right knocking Sylvia down to set it up. The second time Arlovski rocked Sylvia but couldn’t continue to poor it on as Sylvia got back to his feet and rocked Arlovski, winning by KO. I see Arlovski able to rock Sylvia again.. Sylvia got lucky the second time around.

Tito Ortiz vs Ken Shamrock
Record: 14-4 Record: 26-10-2

Pick: Ken Shamrock
I never been a fan of Tito Ortiz, I truthfully didn’t like the guy. But the way he trained his fighters on TUF he gained my respect. I see Shamrock as being to old and really not in the mind set to fight. But I feel that Tito Ortiz is still immature and still an ******* that Shamrock thinks he is. Just look at the way he fought Forrest Griffin.

Dan Christison vs Frank Mir
Record: 8-4 Record: 8-2

Pick: Frank Mir
Out of shape and out of his mindset, Frank Mir lost to Marcio “Pe De Pano” Cruz. Out matched, out jiu-jitsued, but Frank Mir will come back this time and will prove why he was he Heavyweight Champion.

Josh Burkman vs Josh Neer
Record: 17-3 Record: 17-3-1

Pick: Josh Neer
Josh Burkman’s UFC wins are over Sam Morgan, and Drew Fickett. Josh Neer has a loss to Drew Fickett but holds wins over Derrick Noble, Forrest Petz,, Melvin Guillard, and Joe Stevenson. Josh Neer had a bad cut over his eye but still caught Melvin Guillard in a rear-naked choke hold, and pretty much man handled a strong wrestler in Joe Stevenson.

Yves Edwards vs Joe Stevenson
Record: 28-9-1 Record: 28-7

Pick: Yves Edwards
Hard match to pick here, both are coming off UFC losses and both were unimpressive in those losses. But! Those where both 170 lb. fights and this fight will be at 155 lb. Joe Stevenson is a strong wrestler only if he can keep his opponent down but I believe Yves Edwards can stay mobile and not get taken down.

Drew Fickett vs Kurt Pellegrino
Record: 29-4 Record: 13-1

Pick: Drew Fickett
4 of Kurt Pellegrino’s 6 win’s are by submission. But Drew Fickett has 16 submission wins. This fight wont be stand up for long. Experience will go far in this match.

Jeff Monson vs Anthony Perosh
Record: 23-5 Record: 5-1

Pick: Jeff Monson
Jeff Monson’s two big losses are to Chuck Liddell and Forrest Griffin but both were by Decision. Anthony Perosh’s 5 wins are all by submission but Monson holds 13 wins by submission. I don’t feel that Perosh could get Monson in a submission with Monson being so small.

Gilbert Aldana vs Cheick Kongo
Record: 5-1 Record: 17-2-1

Pick: Cheick Kongo
Gilbert Aldana has big power and is a KO fighter but the man he’s facing I feel has good up side to him. He record is 7-2, the two losses are to Rodney Faverus 23-11-3 and Gilbert Yvel 28-11-1. I’m taking Cheick Kongo by KO.

Hermes Franca vs Joe Jordan
Record: 13-5 Record: 23-9-2

Pick: Hermes Franca
Joe Jordan has losses to UFC fighters such as Melvin Guillard, Jens Pulver, and Jorge Gurgel. Hermes Franca was one time the #2 fighter in the lightweight division (Yves Edwards being #1). Franca is on a career comeback and he should just keep moving along.

Yves first fight back was 155 against hominick not 170

Crashsti · 07-07-2006, 11:57 AM

your really picking Arlovski over Sylvia by KO? Tim Sylvia only has 2 losses and both are by submission. broken arm by Mir and a sloppy heel hook by AA. Tim's proven many times that he has a very solid chin. Arlovski has hit Tim with some hard shots twice now and Tim may have fallen down but he has'nt been out. Even Tim acknowledges that maybe he tapped too soon from that heel hook in thier first fight. he was just coming back from that busted arm and was too worried about being out for 6 months with a busted knee as opposed to defending the sub. Tim has felt AA's power and knows he can take it.

Grave · 07-07-2006, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by yaoza11

UFC 61 BITTER RIVALS

Tim Sylvia vs Andrei Arlovski
Record: 23-2 Record: 11-4

Pick: Andrei Arlovski
Tim “The Maine-iac” Syliva may only have 2 losses but one of them are to “The Pitbull” Andrei Arlovski. In there first match-up Arlovski beat Sylvia by submission but first landing a straight right knocking Sylvia down to set it up. The second time Arlovski rocked Sylvia but couldn’t continue to poor it on as Sylvia got back to his feet and rocked Arlovski, winning by KO. I see Arlovski able to rock Sylvia again.. Sylvia got lucky the second time around.

Tito Ortiz vs Ken Shamrock
Record: 14-4 Record: 26-10-2

Pick: Ken Shamrock
I never been a fan of Tito Ortiz, I truthfully didn’t like the guy. But the way he trained his fighters on TUF he gained my respect. I see Shamrock as being to old and really not in the mind set to fight. But I feel that Tito Ortiz is still immature and still an ******* that Shamrock thinks he is. Just look at the way he fought Forrest Griffin.

My picks/bets:

Ortiz defeats Shamrock: 7924 points
Arlovski defeats silvia: 7000 points

I want Ken to win but i doubt he will, gotta pick ortiz for the sake of winning a bet. Arlovski/Silvia is risky though, it could go either way. But i'm thinking Arlovski underestimated silvia last time+Silvia got lucky, and this time arlovski will not make that mistake again.

bekind · 07-07-2006, 01:09 PM

I will back the AA by KO 1st round!

Although in articles I have read leading up to the fight AA has mentioned that he would like to get back to his sambo roots and take it to the ground.

Crashsti · 07-07-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bekind

I will back the AA by KO 1st round!

Although in articles I have read leading up to the fight AA has mentioned that he would like to get back to his sambo roots and take it to the ground.

man, you guys are nuts, Tim has never been KO'd. not by anyone. if AA has any hopes of beating Tim its on the ground. the funny thing about AA on the ground is that no one has really seen him work there except for the SLOPPY heel hook he slapped on Tim in their first fight. seriously, watch that fight it takes AA quite awhile to apply that submission. Heel hooks should be quick, AA was not really quick with that one. Tim is going to either KO AA or Ground and pound him. i'd bet points on it but i don't have any.

I heart LNP · 07-07-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Crashsti

your really picking Arlovski over Sylvia by KO? Tim Sylvia only has 2 losses and both are by submission. broken arm by Mir and a sloppy heel hook by AA. Tim's proven many times that he has a very solid chin. Arlovski has hit Tim with some hard shots twice now and Tim may have fallen down but he has'nt been out. Even Tim acknowledges that maybe he tapped too soon from that heel hook in thier first fight. he was just coming back from that busted arm and was too worried about being out for 6 months with a busted knee as opposed to defending the sub. Tim has felt AA's power and knows he can take it.

I agree that AA wont flat out KO Sylvia because I feel he has seen Arlovskis best shots BUT I think that Arlovski will win by TKO or Submission after he knocks Sylvia down if he can get on him quick.

As for the Ortiz Shamrock fight I just dont see Shamrock even making it competitive and im expecting even more of a 1 sided fight than the first fight. With that said I think that he has more of a chance of an upset than most people think. Remember, it only takes 1 mistake and it could be over, just like AA-Sylvia 2.

Either way its gonna be an awesome PPV, one of the best for quite a while IMO.

Bomber · 07-07-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by yaoza11

I like being able to go in depth with my picks and have people read them.. thats why i take my time to research and write.

Have you been tracking your results? I believe you're 9 for 18 on the last two events.

FightFan23 · 07-07-2006, 06:17 PM

I think Arlovski will be able to finsih Tim this time. He said himself he wanted to the fast KO and that cost him the fight. I think he realizes what he needs to do to win.

As far as Ken and Tito.. I would love nothing more then to see Ken sink in the SUB in this one. I was actually looking at all the LEGAL Betting odds to see what kind of payout it would be for a shamrock to pull off the upset. :sport-smi

Grave · 07-07-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Crashsti

man, you guys are nuts, Tim has never been KO'd. not by anyone. if AA has any hopes of beating Tim its on the ground. the funny thing about AA on the ground is that no one has really seen him work there except for the SLOPPY heel hook he slapped on Tim in their first fight. seriously, watch that fight it takes AA quite awhile to apply that submission. Heel hooks should be quick, AA was not really quick with that one. Tim is going to either KO AA or Ground and pound him. i'd bet points on it but i don't have any.

Say what you like, it was still good enough to submit Silvia and take the gold away from him.

BTW If the heel hook was as badly done as you say, it only goes to make Silvia look even worse for STILL losing to it. So you're not entirely "defending" silvia there.

Crashsti · 07-10-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Grave

Say what you like, it was still good enough to submit Silvia and take the gold away from him.

BTW If the heel hook was as badly done as you say, it only goes to make Silvia look even worse for STILL losing to it. So you're not entirely "defending" silvia there.

WOW!!! i can't believe Tim won AGAIN!!!! what a terrible upset!!!! i guess maybe AA is'nt good enough to take the gold away from Tim. hey, you guys can;t be right all the time.