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Originally Posted by SeikanJudanski
I know what they teach in gym class in the states, but when speaking about Boxers, we shouldnīt just be considering Americans. Fact is that there are thousands of Boxers Worldwide who donīt have any other skills, much less American Football, a sport which is highly unpopular in the rest of the world. Donīt count me, I love it.
Streetfights? yes, a lot of Boxers are also streetfighters. However the comparison was being made between Boxing and MMA. Not special Boxers with other skills and MMA. If you want to compare the two sports, you need to compare it by the books, not by exceptional Boxers who are skilled in other disciplines. Infact, that would be almost an MMA fighter you are describing. As you know, many MMA fighters come from Wrestling backgrounds.
Saying that there are no pure Boxer is simply not true. There are many Boxers who only box and havenīt even done anything else, but that wasnīt the comparison. It was the SPORT of Boxing vs MMA.
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I know. I was just making the point that there is no such thing as separating the sport from the individual. MMA is not one discipline, but many, and all of a fighter's skills and experiences help him survive. To take away those experiences from a boxer, just becasue he can't use them in the ring in his sport, is unfair in my mind (a lot of boxers are superb at clinch and pound, and have to be sneaky to keep the ref from penalizing them for holding the back of the head or trapping the hands... (Then there is the whole headbutt/low blow issue).
I know of 2 pure boxers in UFC:
In UFC 1, there was a Welterweight champion boxer who wore gloves and shoes, who Royce took down and mounted, who tapped out before Royce had a chance to submit him.
There was also a pro boxer in UFC 4 who wore MMA gloves and grippy socks who lost a close match to the winner of UFC 3, a cop with a background in ninjitsu. The fight was close, so close in fact that the cop could not continue in the tournament due to injuries, but the cop managed to get full mount and secure an armbar for the win.