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Old 11-02-2006, 09:07 PM   #1
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Which excersise should I do to throw a harder punch?
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Old 11-02-2006, 09:20 PM   #2
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whats your purpose?? for boxing? or do you just want to be able to coldcock someone as hard as possible
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:04 PM   #3
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basiclly just to coldclock some1 as hard as possible.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:37 PM   #4
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Let's see how many posts before someone tells you to do curls to build your biceps in order to punch harder.

Punching is all about technique and functional strength. It comes from your core, your hips, your legs, etc. Nearly everything but your arm, which is just the thing that your fist is attached to. All the power in a knockout punch comes from your body, and your ability to crank around with maximum velocity and torque to concentrate your momentum into your fist.
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and the answer to the question is.....???? lol
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Learn good form and work your legs and core.
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how would i suggest I do so?
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To learn good form for a punch go to a boxing gym. Not sure what the machine is called but you kneel on and hold your upper body still and rotate. Good core work out. Calf raises are always a good leg workout and squats.

Nothing you read will really properly teach you any technique however. There is no substitute for a coach. I'll take someone who has a month of coaching over someone with 2 years working at home any day.
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There is no substitute for a coach. I'll take someone who has a month of coaching over someone with 2 years working at home any day.
DrumzCT is 110% correct. And if you want to learn effective striking, find a coach who actually trains fighters -- not some boxercise nerd who just got his level 1 coaching certificate and has hung out with boxers. Find a coach with a proven track record of successful fighters -- one who's actually been through the wars. They're out there, and they're usually in the scummiest looking gyms. For example, the guy who taught me pretty much everything I know runs a gym behind a beer store over a ghetto community center, but for 35 years he's trained fighters of all weight classes, amateur and pro, to championships, and he's currently the coach of our country's national womens team.
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one exercise you can do is this. get a resistance band, nothing to hard and go through the same range of motion that you would if you were actually throwing a punch. this will strengthen the muscles required to throw a powerful strike. of course technique and timing have as much to do with it as power does. you can't hurt something you can't hit. i sparred for the first time in ages the other day and i had forgotten how hard it is to hit a moving target. my friend had never sparred before and he noted that no matter how hard he was trying to hit me he just could'nt get the power behind his punches. he could'nt get the range or the timing down. but having worked on the pads with him i know he can hit hard when he connects. he managed to do just that right before the session ended and snapped my head back!!
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Old 11-07-2006, 11:15 PM   #11
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Learn mechanics and then do loads of supervised repetitions...so you're sure your mechanics are right...and you don't develop bad habits.
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cody do you have access to supervised practice sessions... i see that as advice over and over again, but i am aware many do not have the time, money or committment to do so, but still do want to improve in certain areas... while bad habits are sure to form, dont think you cant improve on your own as well too
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you can improve immensely on your own. you just have to be very slow and methodical in your training. you need to do alot of reading and obtain some good DVD instructionals. or spend alot of time at FightForum asking questions. having a good friend or two to train with helps alot as well.
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:31 PM   #14
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i agree with all that crash... thats all very true, and of course its always better to get professional help... i just noticed that to be a trend in advice in many subjects when that is very difficult for many to obtain... besides i think there is a good enough knowledge base on here to give someone enough to at least point them in a good direction
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i tend to tell people to seek out professional trainers and gyms only if its an option. there are alot of places that have at least 1 club or fight gym they could attend without driving 30 miles one way. i choose to train on my own simply because the only gym near me is 45 minutes to an hour away. the benefit of a trainer is that they can quickly point you in the right direction. training on your own is a little more trail and error, even when you have say, Bas Rutten's Big DVD's of Combat. its hard to know if you have everything right since you don't have an experienced eye looking at you all the time. there is also the issue of motivation. some people can really benefit from working out with others. i personally am internally motivated. i don't need someone to help fire me up. However if i had the option of attending a gym that was close, i would take it immediately. as for Fight Forum being a good source of info? certainly, alot of us have spent alot of time putting what we know in words. there is alot of info here that i share that i paid to obtain. of couse i never give everything away.
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I downloaded one of Vitor Belfort boxing videos, but unfortunitly I do NOT have access to a gym or to a trainer or anything.
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Default Close grip bench press

Close grip bench press with stretch bands, as well as using weight on the bar.
Some people may tell you lots of the usual crap bout style and and technique, well that goes with out saying.

Your question was on knock out power, this movement developes good power for straight and jab which means you don't have to use les speedy attacks like a uppercut or hook.

I can close grip bench 240 lbs with 2 medium stretch bands [25-80lbs resistence] and I find it very easy to knock someone out, its just geting the oppening, then wham temple or chin.
I have to admit tho, i have to tag someone 2-3 times to get em out.


Use a smith machine for stability, hands shoulder with apart on the bar.

Reps 6-9,* 3 sets.
bout 2 times a week.
don't use it for more then 4 weeks, you will overtrain, 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off.

The stretch bands teach your muscles to accelerate through movement instead of moving at the same pace as without the bands, and moreover it activates more muscle, so you will gain strength*speed [power] faster.
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DrumzCT is 110% correct. And if you want to learn effective striking, find a coach who actually trains fighters -- not some boxercise nerd who just got his level 1 coaching certificate and has hung out with boxers. Find a coach with a proven track record of successful fighters -- one who's actually been through the wars. They're out there, and they're usually in the scummiest looking gyms. For example, the guy who taught me pretty much everything I know runs a gym behind a beer store over a ghetto community center, but for 35 years he's trained fighters of all weight classes, amateur and pro, to championships, and he's currently the coach of our country's national womens team.
Yea for the exampel the guy i went to for a day and guna go thier again, Is Chuck Mady i think it was his 8th Degree or or 9th Degree black belt he got and is at the level of Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris now in his knowledege he also fough in K-1, and he live in a lil city.
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resistance bands never heard of them do they sell them at wal-mart or something?
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A good technique for improving both technique and power for a straight overhand right is to split wood with a 10-20 pound splitting maul. I prefer to have the splitting block (you can use a large log) at ground level, so I place it in a hole with the piece I am splitting on top of it.
You might recall Liddell commenting on a similiar exercise using a sledge and a tire. The reason I prefer splitting woods is that I can sell the wood I split for a decent amount.
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