Best fighter ever?

Billdolfski · 02-04-2006, 10:50 AM

Fedor would own Superman, Batman and Spiderman.

Just thought I'd clear that up for you.

DirtyChuckRulz! · 02-04-2006, 11:18 AM

Fedor would destroy the punk Batman. all that Chuck Norris crap is true......if you say Fedor instead.

i wanna watch Sak fight Rickson. i think Sak would own him.

Vote for Fedor!

Unknown · 02-04-2006, 12:05 PM

Fedor is supposed to be in a bloodsport sequal. Think he will take JCVD?

mepersoner · 02-04-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SeikanJudanski

He said in Rickson´s prime, not Bas´s. Bas was not even fighting anymore in 2000. By the way, Bas has always had ground skills.

You show how very little you know about Bas's career right there. Bas has NO ground skills early on, and very little until after his second humiliating loss to Shamrock. Then he gets better and after a few more fights has very good ground skills.

So, by the way, the Karate, Tae Kwon Do, and Thai Boxing trained Bas Rutten did not have any ground skills to speak of early on. He got subbed by those three because he had absolutely no idea what was going on.

angryjonny · 02-04-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown

Fedor is supposed to be in a bloodsport sequal. Think he will take JCVD?

I don't know if Segal can take Randy he might not be able to hang with Van Damme-age.

[Danny] · 02-04-2006, 05:15 PM

I said that Bas in his Prime, Fedor now, and Sakuraba in 2000 (his prime in my opinion), could all beat Rickson. Rickson is good beat really only one style. All of the above fighters I mentioned are great at everything. They probably couldn't beat Rickson on the ground, except Fedor, but they could beat him.

I actually think Bas could have killed him in his (Bas') prime. Bas did call him out and Rickson didn't answer Bas request.

Oh, and Fedor could take anybody. He beat a bear for God's sake!

SeikanJudanski · 02-04-2006, 05:25 PM

This is what you said right?

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Originally Posted by [Danny]

Rickson is a legend but by no means the best. I think that even in his prime, he couldn't beat Fedor, Bas, or Sakuraba back in 2000.

So when you said "even in HIS prime".. and didn´t follow up with "in THEIR prime" I assumed you meant only Rickson. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

About Bas killing Rickson.. naaaaaa.

Tank · 02-04-2006, 05:26 PM

I really like grappling, so after most of you denied Rickson, my next suggestion is Gokor. What about him?

SeikanJudanski · 02-04-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mepersoner

You show how very little you know about Bas's career right there. Bas has NO ground skills early on, and very little until after his second humiliating loss to Shamrock. Then he gets better and after a few more fights has very good ground skills.

So, by the way, the Karate, Tae Kwon Do, and Thai Boxing trained Bas Rutten did not have any ground skills to speak of early on. He got subbed by those three because he had absolutely no idea what was going on.

mh.. you gotta a point there.. but when I said he always had ground skills I was probably thinking about his last 25 fights, also I didn´t say he always had "excellent" ground skill, just ground skills..but I guess you blew that bubble. I must admit Pancrase is the one competition I never watched in the early 90´s, obviously that was the time when he sucked on the ground.

Crashsti · 02-05-2006, 10:10 AM

with all this discussion about Rickson Gracie and his myth maybe the thread should have been titled "best fighter ever in sanctioned Competition"? Rickson is clearly a master of BJJ and an amazing fighter but i would have to guess that most of Rickson's fights are streetfights of challenges outside of sanctioned competition. alot of us have probably seen Rickson fight Hugo Duarte out on the beach in Brazil, not exactly official.

Master Jones · 02-05-2006, 10:32 PM

I'm not really sure I could say anyone person at this point. There has been a bunch of go ones.

Unknown · 02-06-2006, 01:59 AM

I would bet on Fedor against anyone in their prime. If it was Fedor vs Superman on roids I would put money on fedor. I believe that that would fit the definition of best fighter ever all others can really only hope for second place.

And Danny, Fedor has beaten several bears. Steven Colbert would be proud.

mengelsen · 02-06-2006, 08:46 AM

Royce Gracie is the man! or me

Crashsti · 02-06-2006, 09:57 AM

Royce was the man at one point, he did turn the early UFC events upside down. of course things change and Royce faded away as guys like Vitor Belfort, Don Frye and MArk Coleman came to be, now we have Fedor but i am sure that eventually someone will come along who is better.