best match that will never happen

Crashsti · 03-05-2006, 07:11 AM

i am thinking that the best match that will never happen is Rickson Gracie vs. Sakuraba. Rickson has an incredible reputation that is both proven and unproven and we all know about Sakuraba.

[Danny] · 03-05-2006, 10:42 AM

I think the best match that will never happen is Couture vs Silva. In your match up I think that Sakuraba would beat him standing and do what he did to Royce in the 2000 GP.

DirtyChuckRulz! · 03-05-2006, 11:39 AM

Fedor vs. Bas Rutten. i dont think Bas could win but id still love to see it.

[Danny] · 03-05-2006, 01:41 PM

If anybody could beat Fedor, Bas could have been the man to do it.

DirtyChuckRulz! · 03-05-2006, 01:46 PM

thats kinda what i think, i need to see some more of his fights. ive only seen one of his fights with Frank Shamrock and his last fight with randleman.

[Danny] · 03-05-2006, 02:01 PM

Watch his Pancrase fights later in his career. Bas was the heavyweight champion of the world if you think about it. I don't think anybody in the UFC at that time could have really beat him.

Georges4life · 03-05-2006, 05:19 PM

Fedor vs a prime Bas would be legendary

mepersoner · 03-07-2006, 03:38 AM

Wandy/Chuck

SeikanJudanski · 03-07-2006, 09:48 AM

Rickson vs. Big Nog..BJJ extravaganza.

DirtyChuckRulz! · 03-07-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SeikanJudanski

Rickson vs. Big Nog..BJJ extravaganza.

i think Big Nogs striking and size would be to much for Rickson......to me they are even on the ground. at least close enough that it wouldnt be an advantage for Rickson.

SeikanJudanski · 03-07-2006, 12:19 PM

Nog is a master BJJ fighter.. so is Rickson. I would even say Rickson´s BJJ is better. It will never happen, so we can´t really call it, but one thing is for sure, Rickson wouldn´t just stand there eating Nog´s hands, as far as size..Rickson has never had trouble beating people bigger than him. All of his MMA fights were without weightlimits.

This is a fight I would love to have seen, just from the BJJ perspective.

DirtyChuckRulz! · 03-07-2006, 06:01 PM

i dont doubt ricksons BJJ but in an MMA event he would get beat down by Big Nog. the size factor is only relevant because of the otherwise equal grappling ability.

Who has Rickson beat that was so big? or worth a crap for that matter?

[Danny] · 03-07-2006, 09:22 PM

Masakatsu Funaki

DrumzCT · 03-07-2006, 09:38 PM

How about rematch Bas vs. Ken Shamrock today. That'd be interesting.

SeikanJudanski · 03-08-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyChuckRulz!

i dont doubt ricksons BJJ but in an MMA event he would get beat down by Big Nog. the size factor is only relevant because of the otherwise equal grappling ability.

Who has Rickson beat that was so big? or worth a crap for that matter?

I don´t think he would get beat down at all, he fought in MMA Vale Tudo´s with no size limits and beat opponents which overweighed him by 50-70lbs. I´m not saying he would win "for sure".. this is the difference between me and you. While I give credit to both fighters and say it would be a good fight, you assume Nog would beat him down, this is pure assumption on your part, since you already "equaled" their grappling skills, so what´s left? Striking? Nog has never knocked anybody out in a fight except Sanae Kikuta. Rickson would not need to fear his striking, actually he would shut it down, it would go to the ground.. and Rickson is the last person on earth to be on the ground with. So it comes back to who is a better grappler, BJJ fighter... and they are both great BJJ fighters. So it would be a great BJJ fight, simple.

I can´t believe that there always has to be a debate, when the name Rickson Gracie mentioned.

DirtyChuckRulz! · 03-08-2006, 06:15 PM

i never said Nog would Ko him, so how is he gonna magically defeat Nogs excellent boxing skills? you just made an assumption yourself. i ask again who has Rickson beat that is so great? Danny says Funaki or whatever i dont know him so ill take his word. he could of beat up a bunch sixth graders, but i guess we have to make assumptions about that as well.

[Danny] · 03-08-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyChuckRulz!

i never said Nog would Ko him, so how is he gonna magically defeat Nogs excellent boxing skills? you just made an assumption yourself. i ask again who has Rickson beat that is so great? Danny says Funaki or whatever i dont know him so ill take his word. he could of beat up a bunch sixth graders, but i guess we have to make assumptions about that as well.

Look up Funaki dude. He's awesome and in my opinion, the biggest Pancrase Japanese legend.

SeikanJudanski · 03-09-2006, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyChuckRulz!

i never said Nog would Ko him, so how is he gonna magically defeat Nogs excellent boxing skills? you just made an assumption yourself. i ask again who has Rickson beat that is so great? Danny says Funaki or whatever i dont know him so ill take his word. he could of beat up a bunch sixth graders, but i guess we have to make assumptions about that as well.

so how many times you gonna ask who rickson beat that is so great if the question was already answered? Judging by the way you speak of him, i don´t think you ever seen him fight.

Crashsti · 03-13-2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by [Danny]

Look up Funaki dude. He's awesome and in my opinion, the biggest Pancrase Japanese legend.

Funaki is a Pancrase Legend and he is now doing movies. i believe he is also one of the men to take Ken Shamrock under his wing and teach him how to be a total fighter. However, i just saw him get his rear end handed to him by Bas Rutten. it was thier second fight and Bas gave him a brutal beating. nice bonus in Bas's Big DVD's of Combat.