Heatwaves

But isn't the whole world of MMA fluid anyway? Isn't the idea of an organization "possessing" the best fighters is a little outdated?

Wanderlei Silva, Dan Henderson, Josh Barnett, Nick Diaz, etc. were in the UFC before PRIDE. CroCop, Anderson Silva, Rampage and Werdum were in PRIDE before the UFC. Tito, Liddell, Pulver, etc. have fought in both. And I'm sure that there are a dozen of more others that I'm omitting. My point being -- straying from challenges or being afraid of losing to another organization is silly, if the term "your fighters" really only means "the fighters you currently have this year". The only real PRIDE vs. UFC challenge anyway, would feature fighters who have never strayed: Fedor, Nog, Hughes, Franklin, etc.

Bottom line, Pride or the UFC is either confident that your organization will win or they're frightened, excuse makers. I have no doubt that both organizations would find a way to back out of this if it became close to materializing.

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milkme

I think both organization need each other. It's like they market each other over seas whether they want to or not because they showcase MMA in general. So if one "flops" the other won't do as good as it would with a competitor.

For example, would the USA be as strong as it is today if it weren't for the pressure of the Soviet Union back during the cold war?

SeikanJudanski

I don´t think you can compare the two. Pride and the UFC going at each other might get us better cards and more spectacular fights. The cold war almost got half the planet nuked.

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Heatwaves

Or for that matter, would peanut butter be as good without jelly? Would cats and dogs have not risen to greatness if it wasn't for their age-old rivalry?

UFC = Dog = Peanut Butter
PRIDE = Cat = Jelly
EliteXC = scrawny, neglected Hamster = expired liverwurst

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milkme

The point being competition encourages growth.

SeikanJudanski

It certainly does, I just thought that example was a bit out of line, since during the cold war, there was a possiblity of hundreds of millions of people dying, due to the "competitive" nature of the United States and the U.D.S.S.R.

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milkme

Huh? Well... I guess that possibility isn't too far off with good 'ol dubya in office.

/offtopic

MTKrav911

This to me is kinda a dumb challenge.

It reminds me of the time in the 1980's when Don The Dragon Wilson (Former kickboxing Champ) challenged Jean Claude Van Damme to a fight for $100,000 just because he was jealous Van Damme was making 6 million a picture.

Kinda sounds the same way, only with more $$$$ on the table. The UFC could laugh and pay all that money and just to PO Pride make it an exhibition event and still with UFC marketing genius make well more than both the 60 million thats on the table.

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kb1313

anyone else have to clean there pants out thining about this>?

Heatwaves

Classic.

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Heatwaves

Millions of people could die watching the UFC if Sylvia drops another "dirty bomb".

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SeikanJudanski

LOOOOOOOOOOOL. Come on man, leave Mr. Hankie alone.

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Harms

I thought Steven Segal challenged Van Damme also. Van Damme sure had alot of haters.

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Xenofreak

I think it isn't all that great if they buy each other out.. Offcourse they both want to be the best. But two events with great cards is the best for us fans in my eyes..

You could always combine the organisations and give a bit more money to the fighters in one event, but also have some ufc and pride related fights, and one or two, (Say fedor against crocop, and wandy vs chuck) in the main event. So it wouldn't be a pride vs ufc thing, but just a very good card. With extra money for the winners..

And the event will offcourse make much more money, and you should do it in a pride envouriment so there can be more people. Something like a pride envouriment in a ufc cage or something.. And if it all works out, you can try it again in.. If it doesn't then you should get back to the old ufc pride..

But dana wouldn't be so stupid to do this 40 mil thing.

name goes here

I think competition between two organisations is not that great, it just limits the pool of possible fights for the fighters. Putting the promotional organisations before the sportsmen just means theres more chance of drifting toward a wwe type situation, rather than a legitimate sport.

TaddT189

Now that Henderson is PRIDES best fighter at 205 and 183, does that mean he has to fight Chuck and Silva at the same time?

And didn't Sherk already fight Diaz(Prides best 161)

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Rampage on Liddell:

He aint got no excuses, "I made a mistake and got caught in an ass whoopin."

Gooner

Yeah, or maybe Sokoudjou is PRIDE's best at 205 since he beat Nog, who beat Hendo.

And maybe Ryo Chonan is the best middleweight, because he beat Anderson Silva. No wait, Baroni then KO'd Chonan. And Pete Sell beat Baroni. And Scott Smith beat Sell, Cote beat Sell. Lutter beat Cote. AND Anderson Silva beat Lutter.

Damn, I guess it's not that simple after all.

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TaddT189

WTF? WTF? WTF? If you beat the guy with the belt(when he has the belt ) Then you are the best in the weight class.

Sorry I had to break that down for you.

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Rampage on Liddell:

He aint got no excuses, "I made a mistake and got caught in an ass whoopin."

The-Iceman-Chuck-Liddell

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