Never shoudlve bet against the leagues best sack team and pass rush.
Even though they didnt sack Favre? Pressure is a bitch.
Same will be so for Brady in the Superbowl.
The G-Men are for real. And are not to be taken lightly.
It wasn't really a bad bet, you seen how close the game was...the Packers should have got the ball on that fumble at the 50 late in the game which would have been a huge momentum shifter...then again, the Packers should have done a lot of things, but in the end it was a competitive game throughout and it was anyone's game...who would have thought Tynes would redeem himself on a FG that was 11 yards further back...I wonder why the Packers didn't try to ice him on that FG...oh well...Brady is lucky enough to have one of the best, if not the best, offensive line in the NFL...I'm sure he'll get pressure but...its Brady and I have a feeling he will be alright with all the talent that surrounds him...Brady and the Patriots have all the experience in the post season and the SB...the Giants have a shot to cover but I don't see them getting past all the talent that NE has...if they do, it would probably be the biggest SB upset since the Jets vs Colts in SB 3!
It wasn't really a bad bet, you seen how close the game was...the Packers should have got the ball on that fumble at the 50 late in the game which would have been a huge momentum shifter...then again, the Packers should have done a lot of things, but in the end it was a competitive game throughout and it was anyone's game...who would have thought Tynes would redeem himself on a FG that was 11 yards further back...I wonder why the Packers didn't try to ice him on that FG...oh well...Brady is lucky enough to have one of the best, if not the best, offensive line in the NFL...I'm sure he'll get pressure but...its Brady and I have a feeling he will be alright with all the talent that surrounds him...Brady and the Patriots have all the experience in the post season and the SB...the Giants have a shot to cover but I don't see them getting past all the talent that NE has...if they do, it would probably be the biggest SB upset since the Jets vs Colts in SB 3!
No Mustang, i hear ya. I'm talking about the guy who said he bet real $$ and lost 50.
That was a bad bet.
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I just cannot see the Giants beating the Patriots.
Honestly neither can I.
I simply think that they have more of a shot than many are and will give them. They have insane momentum going on, solid defense, a balanced offensive attack and a confident QB.
That's a dangerous combination. When a team actually enjoys being the underdog? That can be a huge motivator. Plus, one little talked about interesting fact about the Giants.
Last week the Giants ownership started re-signing key defensive guys Tuck and I forgot who the other one was. But Tuck got a 6 year 30 million dollar deal with a 16 million dollar signing bonus. Tuck was huge vs the Packers.
To me, rewarding your players in the middle of a playoff is a huge incentive to get them to play harder and get your team to the promised land.
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I simply think that they have more of a shot than many are and will give them. They have insane momentum going on, solid defense, a balanced offensive attack and a confident QB.
That's a dangerous combination. When a team actually enjoys being the underdog? That can be a huge motivator. Plus, one little talked about interesting fact about the Giants.
Last week the Giants ownership started re-signing key defensive guys Tuck and I forgot who the other one was. But Tuck got a 6 year 30 million dollar deal with a 16 million dollar signing bonus. Tuck was huge vs the Packers.
To me, rewarding your players in the middle of a playoff is a huge incentive to get them to play harder and get your team to the promised land.
I hope that you are right. I really would love to see the Patriots lose the Super Bowl. 18-0 is meaningless without a Super Bowl title, LOL.
I just cannot see the Giants beating the Patriots.
I can see them beating the Pats any day before I could see the Packers beat the Pats. I mean look at what Burress did to Harris. Imagine what Moss/Welker/Stallworth could do. Harris is way overrated.
I also agree with sub on what he said. Say the Pats go 18-1... there is no way they will ever be considered the greatest team ever if they fail to win the Super Bowl... In my mind if they don't win the super bowl, there will have been 42 better teams than them throughout history.
I also agree with sub on what he said. Say the Pats go 18-1... there is no way they will ever be considered the greatest team ever if they fail to win the Super Bowl... In my mind if they don't win the super bowl, there will have been 42 better teams than them throughout history.
Well, I will grant that we are at Super Bowl 42, but fewer than 42 teams (only 17, in fact) have won the Super Bowl.
The Dallas Cowboys have a 5-3 Super Bowl record.
The SF 49'ers have a 5-0 Super Bowl record.
The Steelers have a 5-1 Super Bowl record.
Between those three teams alone they cover 15 Super Bowl championships (roughly a third of all of them). Unfortunately, the NE Patriots have a 3-2 Super Bowl record. My point here is that the Patriots have a lot of work to do before they catch up with some of the best Super Bowl teams.
In order to have the Perfect Season the Patriots must win the Super Bowl. As far as Super Bowl history, the Patriots are tied for second place with the Packers, the Raiders, and the Redskins with three Super Bowl wins each. Those four teams tied for second place in Super Bowl history have 12 Super Bowl wins between them. So, seven teams control 27 Super Bowl titles.
Why do you keep saying the experts didn't pick them?? Almost all of the experts picked them in the Tampa Bay game, it was about half and half for the Dallas game, and you might be right about this game because I didn't really watch the pregame to see if anybody picked them, but that still would only be one game where they weren't picked.
What shows were you watching? On Fox in 3 games only Terry picked the Giants to win ONCE!
Your saying a lot of people picked us to beat Dallas? C'mon!
This week 5 guys on FSN picked Packers, 3 out of 4 picked Green Bay, and 7 out of 8 IN MY LOCAL PAPER picked the packers. So why are you making it like everyone was picking us(can you say hindsight?) when no one was, except true Giants fans like me were!
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What shows were you watching? On Fox in 3 games only Terry picked the Giants to win ONCE!
Your saying a lot of people picked us to beat Dallas? C'mon!
This week 5 guys on FSN picked Packers, 3 out of 4 picked Green Bay, and 7 out of 8 IN MY LOCAL PAPER picked the packers. So why are you making it like everyone was picking us(can you say hindsight?) when no one was, except true Giants fans like me were!
I am 99% sure that against Tampa Bay the Giants were picked by more people than the Bucs, and were also the favorites.... I didn't say a lot picked them against Dallas I said it was half and half... and I told you I didn't know who was picked in the Packers game because I didn't watch the pregame or anything for it.. so you are probably right with that game.
BTW ESPN News is reporting Tom Brady was caught in new York with a big boot on his right leg (his planting foot). Some NY Media speculate that Brady has been hiding a high ankle sprain and is what is responsible for his lack of offensive output in the playoffs and culminating in 3 INT's vs the Chargers yesterday.
Oh the plot thickens. If the Giants DB's smell he's even slightly gingerly on that leg?
Good Night Patriots! They'll bum ru sh him all day long.
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Well, I will grant that we are at Super Bowl 42, but fewer than 42 teams (only 17, in fact) have won the Super Bowl.
The Dallas Cowboys have a 5-3 Super Bowl record.
The SF 49'ers have a 5-0 Super Bowl record.
The Steelers have a 5-1 Super Bowl record.
Between those three teams alone they cover 15 Super Bowl championships (roughly a third of all of them). Unfortunately, the NE Patriots have a 3-2 Super Bowl record. My point here is that the Patriots have a lot of work to do before they catch up with some of the best Super Bowl teams.
In order to have the Perfect Season the Patriots must win the Super Bowl. As far as Super Bowl history, the Patriots are tied for second place with the Packers, the Raiders, and the Redskins with three Super Bowl wins each. Those four teams tied for second place in Super Bowl history have 12 Super Bowl wins between them. So, seven teams control 27 Super Bowl titles.
Well first to something else you said, I wouldn't say 18-0 would be meaningless if they lost in the SB...sure they wouldn't have the perfect season, but during this streak (the longest in NFL history for a single season)the Patriots already broke so many records and will go down, regardless of the SB, as arguably the best offensive team that has ever played.
As to what I quoted, I agree with what you are saying about these teams all-time stats. However, I believe it's important to but the patriots 3 SB wins in perspective...they won them all very recently and very close together, becoming one of the greatest dynasties. What is even more impressive is that they did this while under the height of the NFL salary cap...the salary cap is suppose to make things more equal and limit long running championship reigns because owners cannot afford all the great players under the cap. So, the Patriots dynasty is relatively impressive.
Well first to something else you said, I wouldn't say 18-0 would be meaningless if they lost in the SB...sure they wouldn't have the perfect season, but during this streak (the longest in NFL history for a single season)the Patriots already broke so many records and will go down, regardless of the SB, as arguably the best offensive team that has ever played.
As to what I quoted, I agree with what you are saying about these teams all-time stats. However, I believe it's important to but the patriots 3 SB wins in perspective...they won them all very recently and very close together, becoming one of the greatest dynasties. What is even more impressive is that they did this while under the height of the NFL salary cap...the salary cap is suppose to make things more equal and limit long running championship reigns because owners cannot afford all the great players under the cap. So, the Patriots dynasty is relatively impressive.
Yes, they did set records that may not be broken for some time to come. In that way the Patriots are among the all time best. But, championships are championships. I think they all agree that the records mean less.
As for the Patriots three Super Bowls in four years, only one other team has done that: The (1990s) Dallas Cowboys. So, on that level, the Cowboys and the Patriots are tied.
Yes, they did set records that may not be broken for some time to come. In that way the Patriots are among the all time best. But, championships are championships. I think they all agree that the records mean less.
As for the Patriots three Super Bowls in four years, only one other team has done that: The (1990s) Dallas Cowboys. So, on that level, the Cowboys and the Patriots are tied.
Absolutely, every Patriot would trade their team records for a championship, I wouldn't doubt that.
Yes, the Dallas Cowboys are tied in the sense that they won the SB 3 out of 4 years. However, I tried to make the point that the Patriots dynasty was more impressive. From what I recall 2 out of 3 of the Cowboys SB wins were during the pre-salary cap era. The salary cap creates a level playing field and the Patriots being able to win 3 SB in 4 years is simply unprecedented in that sense. The salary cap is designed to create a more level playing field...so there could be no Yankees-like team in the NFL (although they underperformed to their standards) Although the Cowboys and Patriots dynasties are impressive, the Patriots dynasty is more so because of the fact they have done this while totally under the salary cap...you may say, we'll they cheated...but that's another matter
