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CyrusD · 09-19-2005, 12:38 PM

Roy Jones Jr' injury proves true

Chuck Corder, PensacolaNewsJournal.com

Roy Jones dribbles a basketball with his injured right hand Saturday night.

Rumors that Roy Jones Jr. has suffered a hand injury during training for his upcoming title bout against Antonio Tarver appeared to be confirmed by his actions during a charity basketball game Saturday night at Woodham High School.

Jones had no trouble dribbling with either hand but did grab his right wrist and grimaced in obvious pain when he fouled an opponent late in the third quarter. After the game, Jones accepted hand shakes and posed for photographs with fans but declined to sign autographs, citing pain in the hand.

Jones (49-3, 38 KOs) is scheduled to meet Tarver (23-3, 18 KOs) on Oct. 1 in the rivals' rubber match, a 12-round bout for Tarver's IBO light heavyweight title at the St. Pete Times Forum, in the backyard of Tarver, a Tampa native.

Jones' actions Saturday add fodder for critics who wonder if the former four-time world champion adequately can challenge or defend himself against Tarver, who told reporters in a conference call last Tuesday he will "destroy" Jones.

The Washington High School product has remained noticeably mum about his bout with Tarver 12 days from now but said Saturday he'll try to continue to get mentally tough.

"I love the contact now," said Jones, who according to a news release has no plans to participate in a Wednesday teleconference with the media. Roy Jones Sr., who again is training his son, and adviser Alton Merckerson are scheduled to field questions from reporters.

"I want to try and focus on having fun, then killing my opponent," Jones Jr. said Saturday. "I'm going to take my time. The reason I started boxing was to have fun in the ring."

Jones won the first meeting against Tarver by decision in November 2003.

Jones has lost his last two fights, including a stunning second-round knockout to Tarver in May 2004. Tarver landed only seven punches in the bout, but a left hand rocked Jones at 1:41 of the second round.

Four months later in Memphis, shortly after Hurricane Ivan, Jones lost to Glen Johnson in a shocking ninth-round knockout.

CyrusD · 09-19-2005, 12:39 PM

He looks scruffy! That means he hasn't had time to shave because he is training so hard..... Thats always a good sign....

Bull · 09-19-2005, 01:05 PM

Might be a good sign: Lamon Brewster looked this way in preparation for his bout against Wladimir Klitschko, same with Rocky Balboa in "Rocky IV". LOL

Everybody got enough time to shave a beard. Why do boxers not shave for weeks in some cases?

CyrusD · 09-19-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bull

Might be a good sign: Lamon Brewster looked this way in preparation for his bout against Wladimir Klitschko, same with Rocky Balboa in "Rocky IV". LOL

Everybody got enough time to shave a beard. Why do boxers not shave for weeks in some cases?

I never shave when I am training with a fighter or just working out a lot.... My face gets irritated when I just shave and sweat.... So I just don't shave for a while haha, then on fancy/special occasions I do, or if I am going on a big job.... My guess is their face probably gets irritated when they just shave and sweat too, plus who are they tryin to impress

Bull · 09-19-2005, 01:19 PM

Makes sense - they'd get cuts easier in a fight probably, too. Thanks.

SeikanJudanski · 09-19-2005, 07:58 PM

Man, I don´t know..looking at his arms.. he looks cut. I think he is going to come in shape. His hand can´t be hurt that bad, if he is playing basketball.

CyrusD · 09-19-2005, 09:31 PM

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Man, I don´t know..looking at his arms.. he looks cut. I think he is going to come in shape. His hand can´t be hurt that bad, if he is playing basketball.

I'm always reading thats how he stays in shape for fights and stuff, plus it has to be a LOT more safer than sparring right now.... I don't think his hand is real serious, people are making it up to be real serious so it seems like Roy will be using an excuse if he loses(Don't think he can lose this fight tho...)....

CyrusD · 09-21-2005, 12:54 PM

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Merk: Roy Motivated again!

Wednesday, September 21 2005

For the first time in over ten years, Roy Jones Jr. is training with his father Roy Jones Sr. In addition, Roy continues training with longtime trainer Alton Merkerson, who says he has no problem sharing duties with "Big Roy." Coach Merk said Roy is currently sparring with Kippy Warren and Derrick Harmon, and is highly motivated for this fight, which hasn't been the case since a proposed fight with Mike Tyson fell through and Jones returned to the light heavyweight division. "He's the old Roy like I saw in the early 90s," he said. Regarding the alleged hand injury, Coach Merk stated, "Even if it's a problem for Roy, he doesn't express that to me, but I don't see any problem with it because he's the type of warrior that can bite down. The fight will take place October 1 and Roy will be at his best, one-hundred percent."

Found that from, FightNews.com

lvsuspect · 09-21-2005, 01:28 PM

I'm so excited I can't sleep at night. I can't wait until the fight so I can get some sleep. I just know Tarver is going to the hospital. Roy just might retire Tarver. He is going to show Tarver what natural ability is all about. I'm counting the seconds until the man finally get the recognition he deserves. It is going to be like the Mayweather vs. Gatti fight. You’re just out classed buddy. If Jones just sticks to the same game plan that he had the second fight, it will be the opposite result. Those body blows were so hard it hurt me to watch.

I'm sure Tarver is just saying all those nasty things to hype the fight, but I can't wait until after the fight when he has to eat his words.

Just know I don't only despise Tarver because he beat Jones. He thinks he is so great and hasn't been really tested yet. I will admitt he has talent if and only if he get through the 4th round..

Bull · 09-21-2005, 01:47 PM

I'm so excited I can't sleep at night.
This reminds me of Christmas as I was a child. LOL Just kidding with you. I know how exciting certain fights (and the time of waiting) can be.

I just know Tarver is going to the hospital.
Hope you are wrong. I want neither man to get seriously hurt.

If Jones just sticks to the same game plan that he had the second fight, it will be the opposite result.
If Jones does the exact same thing as in their second fight, well, what if Tarver does the exact same thing as well?

when he has to eat his words.
"Any excuses tonight, Roy?" I just had to mention this now. LOL

I don't only despise Tarver because he beat Jones.
Calm down mate. LOL This is Roy Jones, not your mother.

He thinks he is so great and hasn't been really tested yet.
Why do you think so?

I will admitt he has talent if and only if he get through the 4th round.
He already went the distance with Roy, and knocked him out the other time.

Hope you do not feel provoked now, mate.

I have no bad intention at all. Both Jones and Tarver are persons I have respect for, and I want the better boxer to win in a fair and exciting fight. Jones was a good champion (maybe he will be one again), I believe Tarver is better now than Jones is.

Do not forget about our signature bet.

lvsuspect · 09-21-2005, 03:44 PM

OK. First of all we all know the circumstances of the first fight that Tarver went the distance. No I wouldn't say that Tarver was tested because of that fight. In fact, that looks worse on Tarver because he couldn't win that fight with Jones in baaaad shape.

Yes he did knock Jones tfo. Ok I said it. JONES GOT KNOCKED OUT BY TARVER. OK!!!!! So Tarver's only claim to fame is that Roy beat him when he wasn't in good shape, and threw a single punch at just the right time (with his eyes closed) and knocked Jones out. It reminded me of the Rochman punch. Everyone said that Lewis was done too.

What blows my mind is that everyone wants Jones to lose so bad that it clouds their judgment. Almost every professional fighter has lost a fight sometime in their career, including all the greats (except Rocky Marciano). When Ali lost to Ken Norton they said he was too old. He came back and beat Norton twice. He also beat other greats after he was too old like Frasier and Foreman. Then he lost again to Spinks. Again they said he was too old. He came back again and beat Spinks.

Before you guys get started, I'm not saying that RJJ is Ali. I'm saying that every time that there is a great, all the skeptics can't wait for them to fall.

Personally, I realize that some of the great didn't really get recognized as a great until they retired. I feel the same will happen with RJJ. A lot of the people dogging him today will praise him tomorrow.

As it stands today people will not put him on the list of greatest boxers ever. When he retires or dies he will near the top. What gets me is that the rest of his awesome career doesn't matter. What matters are these last few years! What is his punctuation going to be? Will he regain the LHW title and retire? Will he go to HW and fight James Toney for another HW belt and retire as a HW champion? Will he go down in history for starting his career as Middle weight and end his career as a HW champion? Will it take him being a HW champion for people to finally recognize him as one of the greatest boxers ever?

Who knows? Only time will tell.....

lvsuspect · 09-21-2005, 03:53 PM

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Do not forget about our signature bet.

OH!!!! I won't forget. You usually don't forget when someone owes you money... LOL...

I also have a side bet with Master Jones of 500 points.

I figure aftert the fight I'll have about 4000 points to play with and searching posts to find what you hate the most for your signature.

I'm guessing that if Jones is blind and they tie both of his hands behind his back and Tarver get lucky and wins. I'll have somesort of signature that says something about how great tarver and bull is....

Probaley not, but we will see what happens...

Bull · 09-21-2005, 03:58 PM

I will need to read your text once again tomorrow (it is late here) to find a powerful way of how to annoy you once again. LOL

Just kidding.

Seriously man: I get the points you make and respect your opinion as it is.
But please: Ali did not beat Holmes.

Let me tell you one thing: Whether the majority of human beings sees Roy Jones as an all time great, or not, this should not matter to you. When you see him as great, why should he not be? How could he not be great then?

Bull · 09-21-2005, 04:01 PM

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I'll have somesort of signature that says something about how great tarver and bull is....

How boring this would be ...

I am thinking of something that is more creative.

lvsuspect · 09-21-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bull

I will need to read your text once again tomorrow (it is late here) to find a powerful way of how to annoy you once again. LOL

Just kidding.

Seriously man: I get the points you make and respect your opinion as it is.
But please: Ali did not beat Holmes.

Let me tell you one thing: Whether the majority of human beings sees Roy Jones as an all time great, or not, this should not matter to you. When you see him as great, why should he not be? How could he not be great then?

I love it. I knew you were just trying to get under my skin, but it just gave me a chance to tell everyone again how great RJJ is.

The only thing is that I feel that RJJ deserves the recognition of the greatest boxer ever. I feel he should go down in history books as the most dominating boxer in his weight class ever. P4P greatest ever, and the most despised boxer ever. During his whole career all any one could ever say is "oh ya well who has he fought". Including Larry Merchant. I have a lot of Roy's fights on DVD and on every single fight that Larry is commitating he just drills RJJ. He has never given Roy a chance to prove his self. From the first fights of his career he says that he has too many flaws to be a champion and he will never be a good fighter. Just derogatory comment after derogatory comment. That is what Roy has had to deal with his whole career. I'm not the least bit surprised about all the washed up comments. It is just on par with everything else. And once again the great Roy Jones Jr. will prove them and you wrong.......

Bull · 09-22-2005, 02:17 AM

I know how you feel. Tyson (my favorite boxer of all time) was seen as some kind of unbeatable from 1986-1989, wasn't he? Now many people say he never was a great boxer and many other negative things about him - in my view this is just wrong and disrespectful. But why defend a boxer when others attack him? Just let them talk when you feel you know it better.

I believe some people say those bad things because they know exactly how wrong they are.
Just my opinion .....

Bull · 09-22-2005, 02:20 AM

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But why defend a boxer when others attack him? Just let them talk when you feel you know it better.

No, this is a message board.

LOL

lvsuspect · 09-22-2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bull

I know how you feel. Tyson (my favorite boxer of all time) was seen as some kind of unbeatable from 1986-1989, wasn't he? Now many people say he never was a great boxer and many other negative things about him - in my view this is just wrong and disrespectful. But why defend a boxer when others attack him? Just let them talk when you feel you know it better.

I believe some people say those bad things because they know exactly how wrong they are.
Just my opinion .....

People are under the misconseption that Tyson wasn't a boxer. They are wrong. Tyson had a lot of boxing skills. What made him great was his spead and power. He boxed like he came from Mexico city. He like to set inside and throw deadly blows with both hands. I used to love to watch him duck and come up with that deadly left hook. I liked Tyson too, I just don't like him now. He has put a bad taste in my mouth.