What About Boxer vs. Kickboxer? - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1

striker · 10-30-2006, 10:49 PM

I may be a bit biased because I am a boxer, BUT the fact of the matter is punches are faster than kicks. Fists are always closer to the target than feet. A boxer's punches will always be superior to a kickboxer's punches. If a kickboxer misses a kick, he will mostlikely be severely off balance for a moment. With an elite boxer vs. elite kickboxer, I think the boxer would win 9 out of 10 times.

angryjonny · 10-30-2006, 11:38 PM

I don't know man. When a boxer has to worry about leg kicks that could spell trouble all over the place. But it would depend on which boxer and which kick boxer. That is why you can't say about any of these generic fantasy matchups that one group would always win. The same goes for the MMA vs. Boxer etc.

PINOYPRIDE · 10-31-2006, 12:56 AM

^^agree.

w0264007 · 11-01-2006, 09:25 AM

Thai boxers have some ridiculous speed and power in their kicks...they would rule the clinch, and actually know takedowns...The boxers punches are far more devastating...but the thai boxer's elbows make up for it-IMO.

Now a boxer vs a western style kickboxer...who knows...I'd go for the boxer.

But angryjonny is right, generic matchups are by definition a bit ambiguous.

GeorgeXVX · 11-03-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by striker

I may be a bit biased because I am a boxer, BUT the fact of the matter is punches are faster than kicks. Fists are always closer to the target than feet. A boxer's punches will always be superior to a kickboxer's punches. If a kickboxer misses a kick, he will mostlikely be severely off balance for a moment. With an elite boxer vs. elite kickboxer, I think the boxer would win 9 out of 10 times.

dude have you ever been hit with a leg kick... it kills. you get hit with enough of them you cant move anymore. you become a sitting target. if a kick boxer worked leg kicks like a boxer does jabs... the boxer is done for.

DrumzCT · 11-03-2006, 12:46 PM

Not to mention that just because a kickboxer spends some time training kicks doesn't mean his hands are less effective,fast or powerful. I know some kickboxers with handspeed that would make any boxer envious.

So a kickboxer will use and also knows how to defend against anything a boxer has whereas a boxer only knows how to defend against the kickboxers hand but wont know how to handle the kicks. A kickboxer is the same as a boxer just with more weapons.

sanjeevjoseph · 11-04-2006, 09:52 PM

I think that if they are both amateurs, it is a toss up. But if they are both professionals at the top of their game, 9 times out of 10, the kickboxer will take it.

striker · 11-05-2006, 07:01 PM

I have never been hit with a kick but so what. If I was in there with a kickboxer, I would try to take him out right away, not giving him a chance to land any kicks. For every kick he lands, I would land 4 or 5 punches. Those kicks didnt seem to bother Shannon Briggs in his K-1 debut and as soon as Shannon stepped it up, the kickboxer was knocked out cold. I am sorry guys but I don't see a Lennox Lewis or any elite boxer losing to the best kickboxing has to offer. All K-1 fighters would be eaten alive by boxing's best.

Lennox Lewis Vs. Remy Bojanski? This would be a mismatch.

GeorgeXVX · 11-05-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by striker

I have never been hit with a kick but so what. If I was in there with a kickboxer, I would try to take him out right away, not giving him a chance to land any kicks. For every kick he lands, I would land 4 or 5 punches. Those kicks didnt seem to bother Shannon Briggs in his K-1 debut and as soon as Shannon stepped it up, the kickboxer was knocked out cold. I am sorry guys but I don't see a Lennox Lewis or any elite boxer losing to the best kickboxing has to offer. All K-1 fighters would be eaten alive by boxing's best.

Lennox Lewis Vs. Remy Bojanski? This would be a mismatch.

haha where do you live... i would love to spar with you some time... i will most definitly be working the leg kicks. haha how cool would it be if you lived some what close and we could have people on this forum sparing.... that would slay

angryjonny · 11-06-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by striker

Lennox Lewis Vs. Remy Bojanski? This would be a mismatch.

Lennox Lewis vs. Jerome LeBanner? Lewis would get whipped.

Lennox Lewis vs. Peter Aerts? Lewis would get whipped.

Lennox Lewis vs. Ray Sefo? Lewis would get whipped.

Lennox Lewis vs. Sylvester Terkay? This would be a mismatch in Lewis' favor.

I would not give much of a chance to any elite boxer versus top K1 talent. But I don't think just any kickboxer would beat any elite boxer. As I said before it matters on the matchup.

sanjeevjoseph · 11-06-2006, 02:55 AM

If a kickboxer is proficient in everything a boxer normally isn't, it would favor the kickboxer. If he's got strong legs and accurate kicks, the boxer will have a huge disadvantage. How's a boxer supposed to use his arms when every time he tries to come in, he gets a foot jammed into his gut.

Even worse, what's he supposed to do when his legs have been kicked and they don't work any more?

Crashsti · 11-07-2006, 12:41 PM

if a boxer can learn to at least defend kicks then he has a 50/50 shot at winning. however a boxer can't just step into the ring with the best kickboxers in the world and expect to be a steamroller. this is all assuming that they are fighting under kickboxing rules. its all about who is better in whichever enviroment the exchange takes place. put a human in an ocean full of sharks and he's dead, put the same human in a parking lot full of sharks and its a differant game. as for Shannon Briggs it only proves that a boxer can survive in kickboxing, not be a champion.

w0264007 · 11-07-2006, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crashsti

if a boxer can learn to at least defend kicks then he has a 50/50 shot at winning. however a boxer can't just step into the ring with the best kickboxers in the world and expect to be a steamroller. this is all assuming that they are fighting under kickboxing rules. its all about who is better in whichever enviroment the exchange takes place. put a human in an ocean full of sharks and he's dead, put the same human in a parking lot full of sharks and its a differant game. as for Shannon Briggs it only proves that a boxer can survive in kickboxing, not be a champion.

Depends how many shark are in that parking lot of yours.

Irrelevent comment, but I thought it fitting.

ufc-Joseph-Bower-ufc · 11-09-2006, 01:24 PM

cro crop would eat most if not all boxers alive.
Well 9 out of 10 times.
Wild punch knock outs do happen lol.
Now I know he is now an MMA fighter. But I am saying with kick boxing rules Cro crop would kick off most boxers heads.
I mean his main style is kick boxing.

Crashsti · 11-10-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ufc-Joseph-Bower-ufc

cro crop would eat most if not all boxers alive.
Well 9 out of 10 times.
Wild punch knock outs do happen lol.
Now I know he is now an MMA fighter. But I am saying with kick boxing rules Cro crop would kick off most boxers heads.
I mean his main style is kick boxing.

you're assuming the fight would allow kicks. how would Mirko do against a top ranked HW boxer under boxing only rules? probably not as well as he'd like. the more techniques allowed in a fight the more likely the fighter with various skills will win. however if you reverse the situation and begin restricting techniques the odds favor someone who trains solely in one discipline. the MMA vs. Boxing vs. Kickboxing vs. TKD vs. Karate vs. Kung fu Vs. JKD vs. hockey vs. tennis vs. golf arguement gets old and never really gets anywhere.

ufc-Joseph-Bower-ufc · 11-10-2006, 03:53 PM

lol. I would love to see a mma fighter on Ice fighting a hockey enforcer. hahahahaha.
But I still think cro crop would do very well even with just his hands. I not saying he will win every fight but it would sure as hell not be an easy fight for any boxer.
Its just skill. The more skilled figher will win. Who ever is better at what ever they are doing like you said.
But in the first post it was said kick would be alowed but a boxer would be able to stop them with quick punching. Witch is a bit crazy and is why I said cro crop would kick off there head.
Pluse in a street fight we all know who would win most of teh tiem any way.

parentsny2005 · 11-28-2006, 10:24 AM

Leg kicks???

See this fight between a World Kickboxing Champ vs. World Boxing Champ

http://www.subfighter.com/modules.ph...wtopic&t=31759

LB4LB · 11-28-2006, 10:40 AM

Same thing happened to Muhammad Ali. I saw what seemed to be a rather odd match were Muhammad Ali (don't know how old he was) faced a guy much smaller. Well anyhow he also had no answer for low kicks.

parentsny2005 · 11-28-2006, 10:49 AM

Also, Shannon briggs did not fight a real kickboxer in K1, he fought Tom Erikson who is a wrestler and an MMA fighter.

Nimmy · 11-28-2006, 11:00 AM

its great once the boxer realsied that he was getting leg kikcs he repeatingly dropped his hands, he didnt use his legs or shins to defend the kicks and really couldv been KOd much earlier with a high kick, every time he reached to block the kick he couldv taken one to the chops