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EliteXC CBS May 31st 2008 CARD

Gygax

Posted 10:35 am, 05/31/2008

Drewplata

And the UFC is not above papering a crowd.



Very true. The UFC had 11,828 paid attendance for 78, a little over 14,000 in house. So a little over 2,000 comped is not bad at all.

Letr's face it, EliteXC has done an absolute piss poor job of advertising this event here in the NYC area. There are no billboards and just quick little 15 second snapshot radio commercials. I have yet to see a TV spot. Heck, there's a huge billboard in Lodi, NJ advertising UFC 85, a PPV in a week. I know a lot of people who follow MMA casually and they knew about the IFL being in town a lot more than this event. I keep telling people about it and they're puzzled that they didn't know it was taking place. Even the weigh ins. Instead of doing it at a sports bar or somewhere like that, they did it outside the venue with terrible attendance. Who wants to drive into the middle of Newark just for that? Put it in a sports bar and people will come figuring they'll get some food and a couple of drinks to start the weekend. Its a bad job locally by EliteXC.

Drewplata

Posted 10:31 pm, 05/30/2008

It's all relative. People who have $500 to drop on a ticket always have it- but they might not be interested in going to see what they think is lower class. But for people who feel the hit when they spend $50 and the other option is watching for free, they might choose to stay home. Regardless, MMA fans need to see it live. And the UFC is not above papering a crowd.

Rumbin

Posted 10:26 pm, 05/30/2008

No way its the economy, the UFC sells out every show within 3 days and has triple the ticket prices.

I really dunno if I wanna risk it and head up there. I have to work til 5 or 6 and the traffic is going to be a bitch getting up there. I can make it there in an hour but I dunno if I will enjoy it more sitting at home getting drunk and watching in HD.

Drewplata

Posted 10:06 pm, 05/30/2008

I can't help but think that the poor ticket sales may be a reflection of the economy. I agree that advertising for this event in the NYC area has been miserable- the IFL has a better presence when their events are held at the (crappy) Izod center- but with the collapse of the financial service industry (see Bear Sterns), job cuts are hitting the NYC area. If you are unfamiliar, NYC had been relatively spared from the economic turmoil much of the nation is facing. The NYC real estate market, for example, has continued to be hot while nation wide the sub-prime mortgage mess has left the country in the worst housing crisis in decades. The tide, though, has turned. The Mayor's office recently released a report saying that they expect the area to lose 80k jobs this year. And with skyrocketing inflation, employed peoples' salaries do not have the same purchasing power they had a few years ago. I have to think that economic concerns are influencing people's decisions, especially when the fights are available for free. I also think that people are interested in seeing CBS' production. And finally, a lot of casual or even more than casual MMA fans seem to think it unimportant to see fights live. Personally, I don't get it. I've been to a few IFL cards, some amateur cards, and I am going tomorrow night (I haven't been in the financial position to go to the UFC when it's been in the NY area). I believe that seeing fights live can turn a casual fan into an avid one. The MMA industry needs to do something to get people to go to more events- ticket contests and discounts would be a good way to start. Ok, rant complete. Tip your waitress.

opsy

Posted 8:11 pm, 05/30/2008

Thanks gygax. I was just on the Prudential Center's site.

Spend a 20 extra bucks Rumbin and you might be close enough to catch one of James' teeth.

Gygax

Posted 8:03 pm, 05/30/2008

opsy

Wow. Do you have any idea how many they are capable of seating?



UFC 78 last November had 14,000+ attendance. Capacity for center ring set up is between 15,000-16,000 when you remove seating areas for large screens and entrance areas.

Considering how cheap many of the tickets were and still are, this is pretty disappointing. As of yesterday, there were still thousands of lower level $43 tickets available. All the $18 and $28 are gone. The upper level is going to be pretty full while the lower level is desolate at this rate. The cheapest UFC 78 ticket for nosebleeds was $65. The local advertising for this show has been limited to 15 second commercials on sports radio and very little else.

I'm going to eat a great dinner in the Ironbound District and then walk over to the Pru Center if the weather is not too bad tomorrow.

Rumbin

Posted 7:45 pm, 05/30/2008

I think 17,000 for hockey

opsy

Posted 7:44 pm, 05/30/2008

Rumbin

I might be going to this now actually, especially since only 7000 seats have been sold so I imagine I will beable to walk in for nothing at around 9 pm



Wow. Do you have any idea how many they are capable of seating?

Rumbin

Posted 7:20 pm, 05/30/2008

I might be going to this now actually, especially since only 7000 seats have been sold so I imagine I will beable to walk in for nothing at around 9 pm

JoeRoganismyhero

Posted 7:05 pm, 05/30/2008

Looks like a few of us are going tomorrow! I'll be wearing my Chuck Liddell cage fighter shirt and jean shorts. I got front row seats so look for my ugly mug on TV! :D

Mutant

Posted 8:56 am, 05/30/2008

As a pretty die hard UFC and UFC only fan I never really viewed EliteXC as legitimate. They still have a ways to go, but I gotta say that I find myself really looking forward to this card tomorrow night...not to mention it is free. If EliteXC plays this right I really do see them as a possible long term threat to the UFC's crown, especially if the discontent among the UFC fighters is as legitimate as we are being led to believe. WAR ELITEXC! I can't wait for tomorrow's show.

Rumbin

Posted 9:27 am, 05/29/2008

Anyone else going to this? The kid I was going with flaked out so Im gonna try to find someone else to run with since there are still a ton of tickets available.

Pretty pissed I gotta work until 5 tommorow because the weigh-ins are at 2 :(

MTKrav911

Posted 5:50 pm, 05/27/2008

AikaImmortal

They have financial gains, personal gains, honor and pride.



Just like anyone else. I agree Aika.

Me personally?

I'd rather have legitimate intensity by females in a sport (in this case fighting), rather than fakery. I've never bought into WNBA for example. I think WNBA is just a lame attempt at women trying to BE men. There are no doubt great Women Basketball players, but watching any interviews of a Female Professional Basketball players? They all act like they're better than men in basketball.

They're not.

You don't get that with legitimate intensity of female fighters. You'll never hear the Carano's say they can beat up Quinton Rampage Jackson. However, I'd put my money on Carano vs your average Joe on the street.

Its legit. And if a woman wants to devote herself legitimately to a sport and kick ass and earn the respect and $$$$ that come with it?

More power to em.

Master Jones

Posted 7:45 am, 05/25/2008

I can't wait to see Ruthless fight again.

AikaImmortal

Posted 8:03 pm, 05/24/2008

mammoth91

This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen. You are not just dumb, you're stupid. I've had girls and women train Lau Kune Do with me that have competed all over and would rip off you're arm and shove it down your neck.
I may get a warning for this post, but dude you need to just go away if you are going to post crap like that.

"Hold to the honor," . LOL , I'm embarrassed for you...



Nah, no warning. :)

Flying Triangle Choke

Posted 4:29 pm, 05/24/2008

AikaImmortal

Are you saying that in all fields, females are not capable of doing things with heart to gain pride, honor, recognition?

I have seen many MALE fighters not, as you say 'fill the role'.. and just go out there to collect a paycheck. Honor isnt automatic simply because you are a man, or instantly negated because you are a female.

1890 called by the way, they want their chauvinism back.



I agree 100% with this. I'd probably even say that most women fighters have even more heart than guys because the women have to work that much harder to be taken seriously.

mammoth91

Posted 4:26 pm, 05/24/2008

Roy D Chopper

I don't agree with you so you call me sexist.. yeah ok.

I don't like watching or hearing about woman fighting. It's disgusting and should not be promoted. They have nothing to gain by doing it. They don't hold to the honor that men have while fighting and lack the over all spirit of the fight. Yeah they can put on a show.. swing their arms and act out the role but they can not gain the honor and pride associated with victory.



This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen. You are not just dumb, you're stupid. I've had girls and women train Lau Kune Do with me that have competed all over and would rip off you're arm and shove it down your neck.
I may get a warning for this post, but dude you need to just go away if you are going to post crap like that.

"Hold to the honor," . LOL , I'm embarrassed for you...

AikaImmortal

Posted 3:32 pm, 05/24/2008

Are you saying that in all fields, females are not capable of doing things with heart to gain pride, honor, recognition?

I have seen many MALE fighters not, as you say 'fill the role'.. and just go out there to collect a paycheck. Honor isnt automatic simply because you are a man, or instantly negated because you are a female.

1890 called by the way, they want their chauvinism back.

Rumbin

Posted 3:26 pm, 05/24/2008

Chicks are more tough then any man, simply due to the fact that they give birth. Your fighting a sexist uphill battle man its no win, girls train just as hard as guys do.

AikaImmortal

Posted 2:59 pm, 05/24/2008

They have financial gains, personal gains, honor and pride.

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