jyd94

I disagree, Frank is no joke and STOOD a long time with a guy who's world that obviously is. Franks right was finding a home and hurting Cung, he admitted it after the fight. No broken arm this fight would have cracked the top 10 all time and who knows who would have won. Great fight!

Rumbin

Man it was great to see Mike Kyle get tooled by a light heavyweight. Forgot to add that last night. How the hell did Kyle get sanctioned but Diaz didnt?

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Cungs kicks to the mid section were brutal. Awesome fight.

Krav your right, Frank didn't go for the take down really. I notice Cungs stlye was similar to Lyoto Machida. He strike and back away before Frank could even counter. Good strategy and we got a new strikeforce mw champ. I bet Dana is happy.

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Andersons Striking is so overrated. He is an AMAZING striker, but it is like saying that Chuck could outstrike Cro Cop. Chuck is a good striker, but Cro Cop has fought so many times in kickboxing. Has no one here seen Chonan vs Silva. He was only losing a little bit in the stand-up. He was tagging Anderson countless times in stand up. Cung is much better than Chonan.

Pitbull

Again with the crazy talk, TICL.

Anderson's striking is overrated...How so? Knee/kick/punch/elbow combinations aren't good enough for ya? And he's ended most of his fights via (T)KO. Proof right there that his striking is effective.

By the way, that Chonan fight was almost 4 years ago. Fighters lose, fighters change. It would be like me bringing up Jeremy Horn's arm triangle choke of Liddell, and predicting a submission victory for his opponents because Chuck has been submitted before.

And the way I recall the Chonan fight, Chonan was getting losing up until the freak submission. But anyway, let's go with what you're saying. Ok, Chonan landed some unanswered blows. So did they rock Anderson? Did they cut him? Did it swell up his eyes?

I'd like for you to find me a clip or picture of Anderson with either a cut or swelling on his face. Anderson doesn't take a lot of damage. If you're getting hit and you can't hit back, you're going to have a tough time winning the stand-up war with Anderson.

I would argue that Cung Le's striking is overrated for MMA. I think you're being fooled into thinking Cung's striking is better because it looks prettier and flashier. If Cung were to stand in front of Anderson like he did with Frank, he would get wrecked. Frank showed Cung is susceptible to taking a lot of damage to the head and getting rocked.

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He might have broken his arm, but I highly doubt that was his only reason for stopping the fight. If your arm is hurt you can still get up from the mat on to your seat without assistance, and you don't lie on the ground for five minutes after the fight trying to catch your breath while completely ignoring your injury. Shamrock looked like he did after the Baroni fight when he had to lean on Goldberg to get through the post-fight interview.

Ryduce

Yeah I am sure his arm was hurting,but those last two head kicks messed up his brain waves as well.Cung was close to stopping it before it was called on account of injury.

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rhtufts

Last nights fight was entertaining and fun to watch but I wasnt impressed with either guy as a fighter. Neither would even be a contender in the UFC middleweight class.

I cant see Shamrock or Le beating any of the top ten UFC middleweights.

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GSPALLTHEWAY

true.. kind of... then again gabriel gonzaga and kongo both outstruck crocop...

opsy

supposedly this is a picture of his broken arm, but it was taken from the Internet so who knows

FatCatMC

One thing I did notice about the fights overall is the fact that Goldberg toned it down a ton. Mauro and Quadros are obviously vets but Goldberg is finally kinda finding his place.

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Does Chonan have KO power? Sure he has gotten some Tkos, but nothing like Cung. Also Cung punishes your midsection and legs with kicks. If you watch some Anderson fights, he doesn't check people kicks very well. Also i'm not saying that Anderson doesn't have amazing striking because he does. All I am saying is there are people who can outstrike him in MMA.

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So then why did you even bring up Chonan in the first place?

My argument is that Anderson's striking is NOT overrated, and Cung would not outstrike Anderson.

-Anderson has KO power, Cung not so much in MMA.
-Anderson doesn't take a lot of damage, Cung does.
-Cung is more of a wear you down with strikes, whereas Anderson only needs 1 round to finish you.

And I'm sure Anderson would just let Cung kick him repeatedly without checking, right?

If Cung were to fight Anderson and leave himself exposed with his spinning kicks, Anderson would exploit that.

Does Cung have some nice striking? Yes.

Can Cung outstrike Anderson? Not likely.

Does Cung have prettier kicks than Anderson? Yes. Happy?

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jyd94

I haven't seen anyone give him trouble with kicks so when are you ever going to see him check them? Just cause you haven't seen a guy do it doesn't mean he can't. I saw nothing special about cungs hands, frank let him set and kick all night, I don't think anderson would do that. So, not that you can do this but....andersons hands = cungs feet...then what else does cung have? clinch? black belt in BJJ? a chin like andersons? submission defence? all big question marks against a guy who has tons of weapons.

I agree he surprised me with Frank last night and I am glad, I like the guy, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

HellRazor

Similiar sentiments were expressed before the Shamrock-Le match.

Cung Le is virtually the only striker I've seen in mma who's as fluid a striker as Anderson Silva. As Frank Shamrock found out, he's a very powerful kicker as well. And recall that San Shou is an art that allows takedowns, and Cung Le was undefeated. That means one of two things. Either he's such a good takedown artist that no one ever got a chance to take him down, or he's got pretty good takedown defense. And nobody is so good at takedowns that nobody gets a chance at them.

Also, it's six mma fights for Cung Le now, and he's still throwing a LOT of kicks, and a lot of HEAD kicks. That means a) good cardio, and b) nobody has grabbed his leg and thrown him yet.

I figure Anderson Sliva wins a fight with Cung Le, because of knees in the Muy Thai clinch, but against any of the other UFC middleweights, I'll put my money on Cung Le. (That's why they call it gambling.) From my own days fighting, I know that that repeated side kick to the gut really does take the aggression out of an opponent.

arelius

This was my first time seeing Cung fight. I cant wait to see more. I thought it was a good fight but it wasn't the "best" not even by a long shot.