want to learn Muay Thai, this gym any good?

wiltedmall · 03-17-2007, 07:07 PM

Ive been doing Wing Chun for some time now, but Im really interested in Muay Thai. I found a gym that teaches Muay Thai, Boxing, and general weapons training.

I checked it out and I was impressed. The sifu guy there used to train high level government officials on killing and NHL players on fighting. He claims he is undefeated with over 500 fights and he even has a $10,000 open challenge for anyone to come and fight with him. The Sifu tells me that if I join up, I also get to learn how to use ninjitsu weaponry and he will teach me the Iron Palm which he has personally killed people in China with.

Anyway, Im probably going to join but Im looking for some reviews. Can you guys please check out these videos of the Sifu and his top students practicing and tell me if this will be a good foundation for MMA? Thanks everyone.

YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace Muy Tai
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace side kicks on heavy bag
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace working the heavy bag more
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace ropework
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace and Anthony working Escrima Sticks.
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace and Jonathon Muy Tai

Kentified · 03-17-2007, 07:13 PM

I always advise people to be careful on "sifus,senseis" whatever they call themselves on "secret" techniques they've mastered over the years and try to use that to get you to sign up with them. It sounds to me like he's being pretty lenient with the truth and while he could possibly be able to teach you good muay thai, he just doesn't seem like someone I'd trust to teach me martial arts.

**Just watched a few of his videos and to me it doesn't look like he's throwing that round house with any hip rotation and his hands tend to drop alot, I've never taken muay thai but I believe thats a big no no, right? I'm sure Nimmy or someone else who takes muay thai can give more advice on that**

*Edit cause I'm not patient*
I just watched the escrima sticks video, my sensei is trained in a filipino art similar to kali and that was horrid. I could go just as fast as those guys were, that wasn't impressive. They had 0 foot work and were just swinging the sticks, they weren't "slicing" as it's called. Leading with the butt end or the poonyo of the stick for a cleaner hit.

I'd stay away from this guy. Oh and Anthony looks like a doyche.

sitnspin · 03-17-2007, 11:56 PM

My understanding of Milt Wallace is that he's all talk -- and CRAZY talk, at that. Here's a thread about him on Sherdog:

Regarding Sifu Milt Wallace lol..... - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums

Edit: Hmmm. "WiltedMall"? What the heck could that name be about, other than a twist-up of Milt Wall(ace)? You wouldn't by any chance be Milt "Crazy Pants Secret Death Touch I Killed a Guy" Wallace, ******** for comments, would you?

AikaImmortal · 03-17-2007, 11:58 PM

Damn, this guy is Ashida Kim crazy

xBrawlerx · 03-18-2007, 12:03 AM

Weak. That guys stance is off and yeah he packs a lot of power but he is prob slow as hell. I would weaken him by chopping at his legs and when I weken him so much that he fall to his knees, boom, I would give him a taste of his own medicine with one of those side kicks right to the jaw. Thats just me though, lol.

sitnspin · 03-18-2007, 12:04 AM

I watched the "side kicks on heavy bag" vid. It's a little less than impressive that he's that winded after throwing about five kicks. This is a dude who's 500-0?!?

Edit: Wait a minute. Are these videos for comedy purposes? Who puts a video of themselves doing ropework on youtube that shows them tripping on the rope three times in 26 seconds?!?

yaiir · 03-18-2007, 06:23 PM

Wing chun. Does it actually work? Ive seen videos on the internet and stuff, and from what ive heard it is rubbish, but id like a verdict from someone who has trained in it.

Daniel · 03-18-2007, 06:45 PM

I don't know, dude...I can side kick faster and harder than this guy, without dropping my hands and without getting winded so fast. I would say this guy could handle himself in the bar, or on the street, but in MMA, I can't see this man's training being too effective.

So if I wanted to take this guy's 10k challenge do I have to put up 10k myself?

AikaImmortal · 03-18-2007, 07:17 PM

Real Wing Chun can be effective but not in an purely MMA sense.. Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee (pre-JKD) are two big examples of Wing Chun

sitnspin · 03-18-2007, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel

So if I wanted to take this guy's 10k challenge do I have to put up 10k myself?

Of course. No one's going to fight you for 10k unless they know for sure that you have the money up front. It would be a mistake to go in and say "Yeah, I'm good for it", get KO'd by a lucky punch, and then have to tell them that you can only come up with $1800, unless they'd agree to a payment plan. That's when the bad times start.

But I'd be careful about challenging this guy. In the Sherdog thread I linked to, he's telling dudes that he can punch through concrete and brick. Clearly he has unparalleled super powers, so watch out.

AikaImmortal · 03-18-2007, 10:18 PM

He must be the bizarro world Rickson Gracie.

sitnspin · 03-18-2007, 10:24 PM

Rickson via armbar.

sitnspin · 03-19-2007, 10:41 PM

BTW, look what I just came across.

From the subfighter forums:

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: Want to learn Muay Thai, is this gym any good?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ive been doing Wing Chun for some time now, but Im really interested in Muay Thai. I found a that teaches Muay Thai, Boxing, and general weapons training.

I checked it out and I was impressed. The sifu guy there used to train high level government officials on killing and NHL players on fighting. He claims he is undefeated with over 500 fights and he even has a $10,000 open challenge for anyone to come and fight with him. The Sifu tells me that if I join up, I also get to learn how to use ninjitsu weaponry and he will teach me the Iron Palm which he has personally killed people in China with.

Anyway, Im probably going to join but Im looking for some reviews. Can you guys please check out these videos of the Sifu and his top students practicing and tell me if this will be a good foundation for MMA? Thanks everyone.

YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace Muy Tai
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace side kicks on heavy bag
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace working the heavy bag more
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace ropework
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace and Anthony working Escrima Sticks.
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace and Jonathon Muy Tai

From the defend.net forums:

Want to learn MuayThai/MMA, is this a good gym?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ive been doing Wing Chun for some time now, but Im really interested in Muay Thai. I found a gym that teaches Muay Thai, Boxing, and general weapons training.

I checked it out and I was impressed. The sifu guy there used to train high level government officials on killing and NHL players on fighting. He claims he is undefeated with over 500 fights and he even has a $10,000 open challenge for anyone to come and fight with him. The Sifu tells me that if I join up, I also get to learn how to use ninjitsu weaponry and he will teach me the Iron Palm which he has personally killed people in China with.

Anyway, Im probably going to join but Im looking for some reviews. Can you guys please check out these videos of the Sifu and his top students practicing and tell me if this will be a good foundation for MMA? Thanks everyone.

YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace Muy Tai
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace side kicks on heavy bag
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace working the heavy bag more
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace ropework
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace and Anthony working Escrima Sticks.
YouTube - Sifu Milt Wallace and Jonathon Muy Tai

Pathetic, Milt. Just pathetic.