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jasculs · 08-21-2007, 09:42 AM

16 Important Closed Guard Tips
Author: Jason Scully
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These are very important aspects to practice and remember with the closed guard. These tips are especially helpful with no-gi.

When having your opponent in closed guard you don't want to give him any space. Space for him means more opportunities to work a pass.

As with space you do not want to let your opponent get his posture. When he has his posture he is now able to get his elbows in and head up to work out of your guard.

You want to get control of your opponent's hips, head, and upper body.

Always have your legs higher up on your opponent's waist, closer to his upper back. When they are higher up it is much harder for him to sit back and get his elbows in. You also have your hips off the ground, which allows for better movement on the bottom.

Knock his hand off your body. When he has his hand flat on your body he has the opportunity to push off of you. Like stated before though, if your legs are higher up his waist/closer to his upper back, it is much harder for him to push on your body and regain his posture.

Pull him in with your legs. Do not rely on using just your hands to pull your opponent in close to you. It will not work. Your hands against his whole body are not an even battle. You want to close your legs tightly around your opponent and bring your knees into you, which will cause your opponent to lunge forward.

Control his head. This is a really important point. Where ever the head goes the body goes. So you want to try to control your opponent's head most of the time at least until you have moved onto something better. If you have ever experienced someone constantly pulling down on your head while you were in their guard, you would probably agree that it is very frustrating at times. Also when you pull down on their head you want to pull down on the upper back of their head because that is where you get the most leverage. It is much harder to pull down on your opponent's head once you get closer to his neck area. Don’t control directly on the neck

Try to control his arms/shoulders. Immediately when you gain control of your opponent's head and bring him close to you, you want to get control of at least one of his shoulders or arms. This gives you a lot of control. You can either overhook one if his arms or underhook one of his arms, but always remember to keep control of his head.

After you gain control of your opponent you want to start moving your hips out so you can start working some attacks. Most attacks are going to come from the side or with your hips out. So you need to be a step ahead of your opponent and start moving your hips out right away. The more you stall the more he has to work. Many people make the mistake of not angling out while having a closed guard. It is very possible to have tight control with a closed guard and work angles at the same time.

Any movements you make, you want to stay tight at the same time. An example would be to place one of your feet on the ground to aid in scooting your hips out, but as you do this you will always keep control of your opponent's head and shoulder/arm. This way he can't sit up. Once you get your hips out you want to immediately get your legs tight around your opponent's body again. Think of yourself as a Boa Constrictor, always on the move but staying tight at the same time.

If you feel you can't stop your opponent from getting his posture and opening your legs. You need to always open your leg voluntarily before he does. Remember you want to always be a step ahead. If he forces your legs open, he will have the upper hand and will most likely be able to control your legs and hips. Always be ready to react and go into a position if you feel your opponent is going to open your legs.

When he sits back, try to sit up with him. Remember you always want to be tight. When he goes to push you back, lots of times he will open up an opportunity to gain control.

Always practice regaining guard control. During your practice sessions work on letting your partners open your guard and work passes. Then fight your way back into guard. First off, always practice your hip scapes (shrimps), this is a really important fundamental movement that is used in a ton of techniques involved in grappling. Secondly, do not let your opponent get control of your legs above your knees, close to your waist. You are in a bad spot if your opponent gains control of your legs close to your hips, or even worse gains control of your hips all together.

Remember a lot of the grappling game especially on the bottom is in the hips.

Always practice your backward rolls. These are very important in getting back to your knees if your opponent stacks you up and there is no way for you to stop him from passing your guard. If you can roll back to your knees, you're in a much better position. Also work on getting back to your knees during your grappling sessions so you can increase your reaction time.

Always practice your shoulder bridges. These are very important for you if your opponent does pass your guard. You can develop the right mechanics and reaction time to bridge into your opponent and back on your knees, or make at least enough space too scoot back into guard.

Also remember that the closed guard can be a great tool and many attacks and advantages can come from it. Remember to work with it. Too many people use the closed guard to just hold their opponent and stall.

Thanks for reading!
Jason

XxGnPxX · 08-21-2007, 01:23 PM

where you finding all these? Seems like they've been hiding from me haha

You're going to have to buy me a new ink cartridge for my printer, if you keep these post coming

jasculs · 08-21-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XxGnPxX

where you finding all these? Seems like they've been hiding from me haha

You're going to have to buy me a new ink cartridge for my printer, if you keep these post coming

I wrote them myself...I will be contributing more in the future also.

XxGnPxX · 08-21-2007, 01:27 PM

How long have you been training?

jasculs · 08-21-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by XxGnPxX

How long have you been training?

In grappling about 12 years total:

5 years wrestling, then after wrestling I started BJJ/Sub Wrestling which I have been doing for 7 years, during that time I have been training Judo for about 5 years

x.MMA.x · 09-18-2007, 12:03 AM

I guess the same tips apply for body triangle?

Tito Ortiz Fan · 09-19-2007, 07:56 PM

Those are helpful but I have noticed that once your on the bottom its practicly over unless you can get on top. Is it better to avoid being on the bottom?

RebLMunkE · 09-20-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tito Ortiz Fan

Those are helpful but I have noticed that once your on the bottom its practicly over unless you can get on top. Is it better to avoid being on the bottom?

That shouldn't be the case......Bottom is a good position to be in as long as your are the one doing the controlling, Their are far more ways to finish a fight from full guard then from being inside someones full guard.

Or are you talking about being mounted ??

But from guard their are a lot of moves and sweeps that could be done to get you in a better spot if you wanted to change up......Getting your hips up high on them and keeping wrist control will help out a lot, At least then you could scramble out easier if you don't have many gaurd moves.

Tito Ortiz Fan · 09-20-2007, 11:03 PM

I usially just see them on the gaurd. Yea its a good control position but what about striking? Or is it better to get them in locks?
I am talking about the bottom.

ufc08 · 09-27-2007, 03:26 PM

nice article. bookmarked!

Crashsti · 09-28-2007, 08:41 AM

are your tips for use with a Gi or MMA? the closed guard is a horrible place to be in MMA. your basically trap yourself and risk getting pounded on. in MMA i feel its sole use is to tie up an opponent long enough to avoid damage and get a stand up from the ref. the closed guard in MMA is also extremely difficult to maintain since you don't have a Gi for added friction and the sweat makes the position slippery.

x.MMA.x · 09-28-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Crashsti

are your tips for use with a Gi or MMA? the closed guard is a horrible place to be in MMA. your basically trap yourself and risk getting pounded on. in MMA i feel its sole use is to tie up an opponent long enough to avoid damage and get a stand up from the ref. the closed guard in MMA is also extremely difficult to maintain since you don't have a Gi for added friction and the sweat makes the position slippery.

Sounds like I just found one of your weak points crash. Maybe you need to spend a little more time in closed gaurd.

MTKrav911 · 09-30-2007, 10:12 PM

I agree with Crash. In MMA, staying in closed guard forever is a recipe for disaster. You really should want to buck the guy off and roll to reversal.

because you're gonna get pummelled in closed guard in modern MMA.

Crashsti · 10-01-2007, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by x.MMA.x

Sounds like I just found one of your weak points crash. Maybe you need to spend a little more time in closed gaurd.

there are some submissions that are best finished while in closed guard, like the guilotine choke. however what are the chances of you sinking a guilotine choke in while actually in closed guard? i don't claim to be a BJJ expert, but just from watching enough matches i think it safe to say that the closed guard is not an offensive position in MMA. to do anything, triangle chokes, head and arm chokes, armbars and so on you have to OPEN your guard.

DoQ1 · 10-07-2007, 02:11 PM

Excellent post

Closed-guard (if executed well) is like the saying in Football "the best offense is a good defense" other than the multitude of submissions and a few chokes, it denies your opponent the oppurtunity to attack.

Either in MMA, or life this (if executed well) is a very effective tool.

Crashsti · 10-09-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DoQ1

Excellent post

Closed-guard (if executed well) is like the saying in Football "the best offense is a good defense" other than the multitude of submissions and a few chokes, it denies your opponent the oppurtunity to attack.

Either in MMA, or life this (if executed well) is a very effective tool.

in MMA i think you need to reverse the saying. "the best defense is a good offense." the idea being if your attacking he has to defend and can't attack. look at Fedor, Couture, Sherk and numerous others. they're relentless in their attacks and win alot. none of them use the closed guard, in fact they're the ones who can do alot of damage from closed guard. Fedor especially.

MTKrav911 · 10-23-2007, 08:42 PM

x.MMA.x · 10-24-2007, 06:02 PM

Man, could you emagine if he came down with a knee onto that guys head.

Crashsti · 10-25-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MTKrav911

what size Gi does that guy wear? certainly would'nt want to have him in closed or any guard for that matter.