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Old 11-28-2007, 08:15 PM   #1
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I picked up a book today by Wong Kiew Kit entitled The Complete Book of Tai Chi Chuan, and I'm learning why Tai Chi will never be a combat "sport."

There are no theatrics or machismo in Tai Chi.

Muay Thai, BJJ, Kickboxing, Greco-Roman, etc. all emphasize aggression, taking it to the opponent and taking him out in a variety of ways.

Tai Chi is more about the internal channeling of energy, and considers punching a bag or kicking a pole to be crude and unnecessary outside attempts to gain what can be attained through internal control and meditation.

A Muay Thai punch is a boney hammer, meant to bash through the opponent's body, regardless of cost to the puncher.
A Thai Chi punch is a bridge, allowing energy to flow from the exponent into the opponent, doing more damage while NOT hurting the puncher.

Unfortunately for Thai Chi, too many Americans see it as ONLY a meditation and healing technique, or ONLY a combat form.
The basic principle of Thai Chi is the commonly misinterpreted Yin-Yang, the unity seen by recognizing sets of relative opposites.
In this example, the Yin is the healing and meditation technique, and the Yang is combat.
Using too much of either prevents the user from gaining the full benefits of Thai Chi.

Too many martial artists punish their bodies in an effort to FORCE them to work harder, but not really achieving anything.
No matter how long you run on a treadmill, you will always end up panting if you allow the increase in your need for air to regulate your rate of breathing.
Your heart will also be working harder, your blood rushing unnaturally, which causes more stress and impairs your ability to think clearly, clouding your mind with adrenaline.
Thai Chi rejects this, and focuses on regulating the breathing through a trained MIND, thereby allowing the body greater stamina and keeping the mind open to react spontaneously.


Like I said, no theatrics. No anger. No emotional outburst of punches.
Control; "mind over matter"; literally using the mind to give the body more energy to work with, whether for healing or self-defense.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:31 PM   #2
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When considering the usefulness of a traditional martial art in terms of Combat Sports its simply a matter of taking a look at it and see if it makes sense or not. MMA in the USA has been around for quite awhile and long gone are the ninjitsu fighters and Sumo practitioners. I still say that every art has something to offer but why spend years trying to perfect an obscure strike when you can just throw and overhand right? As for Tai Chi? i think it offers some insight in to balance and energy conservation which could be worked into more conventional combat arts.
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I love TMA's. Watching someone expertly perform the different animal forms of Kung-Fu is absolutely beautiful and mesmerizing. There are a lot of useful techniques within these TMA's, but where they differ is practical application and training. The lack of Kata (choreographed movement), and the abundance of randori (free sparring) in MMA oriented disciplines means that, from the onset, one learns which techniques work best for his body type, and gets used to the ever changing environment of a fight. There are many fighters that have TMA's in their background. These fighters always seem to be the more "levelheaded" in a match. When one combines the mental discipline of these arts with the brutality and cage-proven techniques of MT, BJJ, Greco, etc, it can be a lethal combination
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A good topic. Tai-Chi and Kung-Fu are entwined to the point that you can not and will not reach the higher sash levels of Kung-Fu with out training Tai-Chi as well. There are sword, chain and knives techniques that are incredibly hard to learn in Tai-Chi. Most of the Tai-Chi you can see at Yoga studios or being " performed " in the park is an American styled Tai-Chi. Tai-Chi will bring a combative Kung-Fu style in to perspective for new and mid level students.
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A good topic. Tai-Chi and Kung-Fu are entwined to the point that you can not and will not reach the higher sash levels of Kung-Fu with out training Tai-Chi as well. There are sword, chain and knives techniques that are incredibly hard to learn in Tai-Chi. Most of the Tai-Chi you can see at Yoga studios or being " performed " in the park is an American styled Tai-Chi. Tai-Chi will bring a combative Kung-Fu style in to perspective for new and mid level students.
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I was waiting for ya in this one Mammoth!

Yeah, I love when topics like this show up ! Now I'm just waiting for Sitspin to chime in about how TMA's are useless.
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