Mayhem_Mullen

Placing the forearm across the throat and grabbing the bicep would leave room for the head to move about and be only placing pressure from 1 angle, if you get what i mean, if you use the joint of the right arm and apply pressure along with grabbing the bicep, you're effective placing pressure on both sides of the throat and giving less space for any head movement.

basslogic4003

Forearm across the throat is ludicrous, plain and simple. At that point, it's a wind choke that will maybe get a guy to tap from pain, but he certainly won't go out in under ten seconds like a properly applied choke (more accurately but less commonly referred to as a "strangulation"), which uses lateral carotid compression to rapidly induce unconsciousness. Arm around the throat, with crook of elbow lined up with jaw, placing your hand on the back of your opponents shoulder until you can work the other hand up. Then you would grab your own bicep with the arm you had on the shoulder, and place your other hand, knuckles out (for best leverage), behind your opponents head where it meets the neck, and bring your elbows together. Keep your head tight, especially in an MMA/self defense situation, as you will eat less rabbit punches from there. Plus, you can lean your head in and use it to apply even more pressure for the choke. Remember to whisper something diabolical (or sexy) into your opponents ear as he/she goes out

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Crashsti

depending on how strong you are proper technique might not really matter. Jeff Monson tapped out Fujita in Pride using a less then perfect RNC and it worked mostly from Jeff's massive strength.

basslogic4003

Well yeah, but it's certainly improper technique. If properly applied, a 5 year old can put a man to sleep with the Mata-Leao

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Delta_049

Yeah I've had the wind choke applied and it hurts like hell can cause a sense of panic as well. I've also been put out with the "strangulation" and although I was out there was no sense of pain or even real sense of panic as it was being applied.

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Crashsti

Proper technique is certainly the best route. Much easier then trying to equal Jeff Monson in the strength department.

basslogic4003

Naaah, I take Xyience too...ha. Nope.

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basslogic4003

It's really amazing how quick it goes on. We were repping anaconda chokes the other day, not even rolling, just repping. My buddy put one on me, rolled me and started to walk around. I didn't even realize it was on and I just about went out before I noticed. They work quick!

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WarDawg

The first way you described it is the way it's done properly. WarDawg

XxGnPxX

heres how i would do it.....place the crook of the elbow under the neck like you said, then instead of grabbing straight for your bicep kind of grab ur left forearm and pull up in a curling motion. That makes it harder for the guy to just get wrist control of your right arm and pull down cause your really applyin it with 2 arm in a sense. Then once you have the left hand back far enough to grab the back of his head push down and slide the hand down to the bicep. I found that works great for me especially if the guys stronger

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Delta_049

Thanks GnP, can't wait to get a chance to try it

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