JJ with Gi and No-Gi ??? - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1

giguer · 02-03-2008, 09:45 PM

I just start training in Muay Thai and Kickboxing. As u can see, I have 5 day a week training with that.

But now I have spear time and want to start as soon as possible, BJJ. But my problem is this one. The place that i'm gonna go is the same place that my Muay Thai with Stephane Dube. They give JJ with Gi and BJJ without Gi. So on 5 day training, 2 lesson are without gi and 3 with gi.

So my question is. Is that good to learn with gi. I think is like Judo but no sure at 100%. Or just to follow the 2 lesson a week. Let me know.

And sorry if something is hard to read. Everytime I try to do my best .

Thx all

Ryduce · 02-03-2008, 10:48 PM

Training with a Gi will help your fundamentals.

Small details like posture and basing out become much more difficult when a guy has a collar or pant leg to hold on to.

Rocky12233 · 02-03-2008, 11:15 PM

I agree with Ryduce..

I was told I would regret it if I didnt train with a Gi....I am VERY happy I did....

I do both and I would definetly suggest doing both...

giguer · 02-04-2008, 12:03 AM

Oh great. Thx

gilliam · 02-04-2008, 07:10 AM

def. go with gi..........its so much harder with a gi and it makes you so much better with the basics. Also if you can get good with a gi then you'll be good without a gi, but if your good without a gi but you never trained with a gi then you wont be good when you put a gi on. I've jus recently started with a gi and its a completely different world, i felt like such a noob.

basslogic4003 · 02-04-2008, 11:14 AM

Everything that has been said is true. It will only make you a more technical, efficient and intelligent grappler in the long run. It also adds to your toughness and fortitude, those 100% cotton double weave pajamas get real hot real fast!

Crashsti · 02-04-2008, 11:20 AM

I've read opinions on this subject from some of the best guys in the sport. Most of the guys with BJJ or Judo backgrounds say that you should always spend sometime training with a Gi. On the other hand you have the wrestlers like Couture, Lindland, Henderson and Hughes who have little to no official BJJ rank but are very successful MMA fighter with excellent submission defense and some submission skill. It comes down to which school of thought you feel most comfortable with. I tend to side with the wrestlers.

giguer · 02-04-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Crashsti

I've read opinions on this subject from some of the best guys in the sport. Most of the guys with BJJ or Judo backgrounds say that you should always spend sometime training with a Gi. On the other hand you have the wrestlers like Couture, Lindland, Henderson and Hughes who have little to no official BJJ rank but are very successful MMA fighter with excellent submission defense and some submission skill. It comes down to which school of thought you feel most comfortable with. I tend to side with the wrestlers.

For the school. They teach both so that why I ask that. So I will learn the 2 thx

MTKrav911 · 02-04-2008, 01:11 PM

We always train with the aspect that BJJ is fundamentally a self defense art first. Which many BJJ moves are catering too with grabbing collars, etc.

Fundamental BJJ is learned by gi first. You learn position, etc, learn the fundamentals of how to look for that opening and creating space, etc.

Sometimes we'll have an idiot come into our gym saying "I dont want to learn gi BJJ because I'm not going to compete in gi tourneys. I just want MMA training no gi"

Those people don't realize, you have to have a solid base in gi BJJ first, then graduate to MMA fighting without the gi.

At least that's my opinion and the opinion of our gym owners/instructors.

giguer · 02-04-2008, 01:48 PM

Sorry to ask that it's only because I don't know with a Gi. But training with a Gi, is like Judo ?

I ask that only because they look like to be the be the same training. So that why

MTKrav911 · 02-04-2008, 02:25 PM

Judo is done with a gi but is more focussed on throws, whether they use a gi to accomplish a throw or not.

Judo also does alot of exercises similar to wrestling.

giguer · 02-04-2008, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTKrav911

Judo is done with a gi but is more focussed on throws, whether they use a gi to accomplish a throw or not.

Judo also does alot of exercises similar to wrestling.

Oh ok, I was thinking that with a Gi you use to throw so that why I was like, damn why you use that . Thx

giguer · 02-05-2008, 09:45 PM

Just find some news about that.

Jiu-jitsu Newbie Guide - FAQs: Information for Beginners about Brazilian Jiu-jitsu

And is real to change belt color in bjj is take 3-5 years...

takeAnap · 02-10-2008, 07:32 PM

Unless your training at 10th Planet jiu jitsu, I would definately train w/ Gi atleast to start off. I think it helps you w/ technique. After you get more experienced I think you could start working on more No Gi.