soulhunter

Hi guys
I’m teaching self defense and I would like to know if you have some experience of using your ”fighting sports” in real conflict situations? Specially if there was weapon or multiple attackers involved?
Thanks for the answer and sorry for my bad English. Be free to correct my language mistakes. (-:
P.S. I hope I´m in right thread now.
(Fixed a few words for you to make your question clearer -Aika)

basslogic4003

I did some Krav Maga, and have trained (and still train) a lot of BJJ, haha. What people don't realize about BJJ, especially in it's original form, is that it was a very self defense oriented system. The groundfighting aspect has gained much notoriety over the past several decades, but the system most definitely addresses real world situations and street type encounters, standing and otherwise. The Krav I trained has helped me to understand how to end a situation before it turned into a "fight", and given me a sense of situational awareness that no other system could have given me. Through Krav, I will always know the situation around me, who is where, and where the threat would come from. If faced with a problem, I'd either run or I'd know how to inflict the most amount of pain in the shortest time possible if given no other choice. If this all failed, BJJ would come into play and I'd know how to pick a dude up and slam him head first into the ground, Uchi Mata him through a wall, choke him out standing up, or, in the worst case scenario, how to end up on top on the ground, pound him out while maintaining awareness of my surroundings, maybe taking an arm or shoulder with me. All sportive combat arts have their origins on the battle field

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"I have always said that if you need steroids to compete you are not a fighter. Fighting is all about heart, technique and capitalizing upon your opponents mistakes. It is not about putting something into your body and walking around with big muscles saying look at me. In my book if you are on steroids you are a loser."

Bas Rutten

soulhunter

Hi

Thanks for your answer. Good thinking. But did you have some situations like those you are writing about above?

Which techniques people usualy use from BJJ when it happens?

AikaImmortal

Don't worry about your english at all. We have a load of non native english speakers here and nobody has ever complained about not being able to read anything. If anything, know that most native english speakers couldn't pick up your native tounge as well as you have picked up english bro!

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soulhunter

Hehe...

Thanks!

basslogic4003

I actually avoid street fights like the plague, but have had to control/restrain people before. In those situations, I felt confident in my ability to restrain the other person, and was completely aware of my surroundings and everyone else in the immediate vicinity.

In terms of effective BJJ techniques, take your pick! Standing guillotines and head and arm triangles are both extremely effective in controlling a person while staying on your feet. Standing wrist/armlocks can render your opponent helpless. Standard joint locks such as the Kimura/americana, wristlocks, armbars, neck cranks, heel hooks, etc can all be used and cranked hard to cause major damage real fast if you're forced to the ground. In that case though, I'd prefer to achieve and maintain a dominant top position, one that allows me to get to my feet in a hurry if I have to get the hell outta dodge, so to speak Knee on belly is a great position to control someone while still maintaining situational awareness.

In Krav, we would do a drill where we would be taken down and end up on our back with an aggressor swinging away on top. We had to reverse position, neutralize the attacker and get to our feet in a very short time, or we'd start taking a beating from his "friends" aka-the instructor with a padded bat

What self defense type system will you be teaching?

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www.serrajitsu.com

"I have always said that if you need steroids to compete you are not a fighter. Fighting is all about heart, technique and capitalizing upon your opponents mistakes. It is not about putting something into your body and walking around with big muscles saying look at me. In my book if you are on steroids you are a loser."

Bas Rutten

MTKrav911

I teach Krav Maga to civilians. Our drills are centered around producing extreme physical stress to simulate the psychological stress that occurs during a real life confrontation.

Weapons? Krav's Philosophy is simple. Control, redirection at the same time as counter attacking (AKA as bursting ), and disarm if only if possible. Basically their entire approach is to control the weapon hand and beat the crap out of someone until either they let go or you take the weapon away. It also teaches that there are some weapons attacks that are virtually impossible to overcome.

The best approach IMO to self defense, and not just because it's Krav's philosophy as well is to keep it simple. Simple combative straight attacks, simple ground techniques and a baseline understanding of basic grappling and striking. Everything else won't work. You will not remember some complex set of moves, etc.in a real situation. Real situations happen in split seconds and a complex set of multiple moves wont work.

Real life situations? I'm a cop and most of what I've used in getting people into custody follow pretty much the philosophy outlined above. Guy gets in your face, 1, 2, 3, you're in a pushing/punching/kicking/biting/head butting/anything goes little tussle and you simply put them down quick fast and with whatever you have handy to do it.

As we say. It doesent have to be pretty in a fight. It just has to be effective.

soulhunter

Cool and thanks all for long answers...

Im teaching KM too. (-: But i would like to hear some MMA guys and their experience about what type of reaction they hade in first stage...

I already did chatt with a few guys here, but nobady with "that" kind of expirience...

Maebe soon. (-:

Thanks again

MTKrav911

I've spent about 2 weeks in the Las Vegas KM training center, and that's a really cool place because alot of MMA guys go there to either teach or just get a good workout/self defense training.

I've seen some really good BJJ guys from Machado's camp in L.A. there mix it up with some of the KM instructors during their "Fight CLub" classes. It's always fascinating the "street" version of BJJ and just some of the KM stuff.

Basically KM ground consists of a good fundamental guard, good sweeping techniques and getting the hell back up and striking.

soulhunter

Hi

Yes, We do some mix training too with MMA people here... It is good training.

Civilan People who train a lot, actualy almoust never get into the trubbell... this is expirience in our clubs... so it is hard to find some statistics which starting reaction they have have.

I belive that "what you train most is what you will do first", we call it "shooting range" behavior...

But it is alwais fun to know more about it... (-: