Lloyd Irvin & Brandon Vera held at gunpoint...

T-Bone · 10-06-2008, 02:28 PM

These morons should choose their targets more carefully.

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Speaking exclusively to BloodyElbow.com, world champion grappler Lloyd Irvin said his home in Accokeek, Maryland was invaded by two armed gunman on Saturday morning at approximately 4:30am.

According to Irvin, the two gunman held Irvin, his son, wife and UFC light heavyweight contender Brandon Vera at gun point while demanding to be directed towards valuables like cash or jewelry.

While one gunman held Irvin's family hostage, another gunman directed Irvin to the the master bedroom. According to Irvin, he led the gunman toward his bedroom. Once in the bedroom, Irvin said he noticed the other gunman was far enough away down the hall to make a move to disarm the attacker in his bedroom. Irvin, an expert in Sambo defensive gun and knife techniques, was able to get ahold of the gun in the attacker's hands, first separating the clip from the gun and then removing the gun from the attacker's hands.

At that point, the attacker in Irvin's room ran yelling to his accomplice that Irvin had his gun and both gunman fled the house. It's not clear what, if anything, they were able to take with them. Police were called to the scene and have launched an investigation.

According to Irvin, no one in his family was physically hurt, although the psychological trauma at this point is considerable.

While Vera is physically unharmed, leaving for England this Tuesday and will continue training, it is not clear to what extent the psychological trauma from this event will have as he heads into his fight with Keith Jardine at UFC 89 on October 18th. Irvin indicated that to the extent possible, training would continue as normal.

On behalf of everyone at BloodyElbow.com, we are glad to hear no one was harmed in the attack and wish both the Irvin family and Vera the best during this very difficult time.

BloodyElbow.com Exclusive: Lloyd Irvin, Family and Brandon Vera Attacked by Two Gunman in Irvin's Home Saturday*Morning - Bloody Elbow

FatCat · 10-06-2008, 02:29 PM

Haha, I read this earlier. Nice to see training going to good use!

subgenius · 10-06-2008, 04:53 PM

That is crazy stuff. Irvin is damn lucky that they simply ran away. What would he do, if the attackers took a hostage? He would have had to surrender the gun and placed back at square one. Home invasions can go very badly with the attackers killing everybody in the house. It happened in Florida not so long ago. As much as I'm happy it went well, Irvin took a severe risk with the lives of his family and Brandon Vera. Thank God it paid off rather than us reading about Irvin and Vera dead in a multiple homicide along with Irvin's family.

WanderleiSliver · 10-06-2008, 04:59 PM

It's good to see this all worked out well, but this was a silly move on Irvins part in my opinion. So many things can go wrong in situations like this and while nobody was hurt, I'm very surprised that's the case.

LionHeartWarchild · 10-06-2008, 11:14 PM

Glad everyone is ok. Pretty crazy stuff...

bigscreen · 10-06-2008, 11:53 PM

i know this chick, same crap happened where two dudes with guns broke into her familys house when she was little. the burglers killed her parents, stole their belongings, and bolted. she didnt get seen, but imagine what that did to her. what kind of person do you have to be to do that kinda stuff.... i cant even imagine what the robbers were thinking

onip69 · 10-07-2008, 01:10 AM

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According to Irvin, no one in his family was physically hurt, although the psychological trauma at this point is considerable.

Glad everyone is o.k but how they deal with the psychological trauma could be the scary part. How old is his son ?

Scarecrow · 10-07-2008, 09:22 AM

I've had a gun pointed in my face before, definitely not a pleasant experience. And that was when I was about 15 in a Burger King. My military experience was a whole other matter in that regard. If I were Irvin I would have followed those ass-hats and set up a personal meeting with Saint Peter. Anyone that threatens my family forfeits their right to breath the same air that I do.

bigscreen · 10-07-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Anyone that threatens my family forfeits their right to breath the same air that I do.

OH BURN

lwbfl · 10-07-2008, 12:17 PM

Let's not second guess his actions. Who knows, maybe they would have killed everyone after they got what they wanted anyway? No witnesses you know? Statistics show that doing what the bad guy tells you is the smartest thing to do. In these situations you have to make that decision and personally I'd rather go down fighting than be executed. Each situation is different though and most of the time it's better to just go along with them.

DISCO · 10-09-2008, 11:34 AM

Yeah its really not up to us to second guess the man. Who knows what the situation was like. Good thing no one got hurt....well okay, if the bad guys got hurt a little, that's probably karma.

subgenius · 10-09-2008, 11:39 AM

It's true, second guessing is not, essentially, a good idea. We do not know what the thugs said. They might have said that they would kill all of them. Irvin taking the gun away might have been all that could save them. It's hard to know what any of us would do in his place. It's just very scary to think that, if I did what he did and it turned out bad, then I might have caused my best friend, wife, and kids to get killed. But, then I would be dead as well, I suppose. All around, a bad situation, but I am VERY, VERY happy that it turned out the way that it did with everybody basically safe and sound (outside of the stress and trauma of the event itself).

twigz · 10-23-2008, 08:32 AM

A little more on the situation.

Vera Held at Gunpoint

subgenius · 10-23-2008, 09:55 AM

Surreal was a good word for that robbery.

Vera does need to win some matches. Maybe a trip to the WEC would help him to get back on track. He's an entertaining fighter.

jcsambo · 10-26-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WanderleiSliver

It's good to see this all worked out well, but this was a silly move on Irvins part in my opinion. So many things can go wrong in situations like this and while nobody was hurt, I'm very surprised that's the case.

"To beat Fedor, you would have to kill him twice, and then push him over" - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira?

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Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira was just a piece of S*HT when they fought twice in Pride in Japan. His BJJ was nothing compared to Fedor.

WanderleiSliver · 10-26-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jcsambo

"To beat Fedor, you would have to kill him twice, and then push him over" - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira?

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Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira was just a piece of S*HT when they fought twice in Pride in Japan. His BJJ was nothing compared to Fedor.

What?, not sure what you meant by that.

johnonguitar · 10-26-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jcsambo

"To beat Fedor, you would have to kill him twice, and then push him over" - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira?

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Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira was just a piece of S*HT when they fought twice in Pride in Japan. His BJJ was nothing compared to Fedor.

hahah weeewooooweeeewooooo this is the sherdog police, come out with your hands up!

NWCrazy · 10-27-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

That is crazy stuff. Irvin is damn lucky that they simply ran away. What would he do, if the attackers took a hostage? He would have had to surrender the gun and placed back at square one. Home invasions can go very badly with the attackers killing everybody in the house. It happened in Florida not so long ago. As much as I'm happy it went well, Irvin took a severe risk with the lives of his family and Brandon Vera. Thank God it paid off rather than us reading about Irvin and Vera dead in a multiple homicide along with Irvin's family.

You are spot on. Even though it turned out well, the smart thing would have been to accomodate the gunmen especially with family present.

What if the second gunman had panicked or got pissed off to such a degree that he just started shooting at everyone in sight? That could have been a realistic scenario.

NWCrazy · 10-27-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow

I've had a gun pointed in my face before, definitely not a pleasant experience. And that was when I was about 15 in a Burger King. My military experience was a whole other matter in that regard. If I were Irvin I would have followed those ass-hats and set up a personal meeting with Saint Peter. Anyone that threatens my family forfeits their right to breath the same air that I do.

That would be a stupid thing to do. It is because he has a family that he has to show restraint.

You want to know what can happen? Irvin goes after the gunmen. Then they retaliate and go after his family with more of their buddies. Those punks have a hell of a lot less to lose than Irvin, I assure you.

A smart family man HAS to think about the safety of his family first...all of the time. And that usually means to suck it up and turn the other cheek. Believe me, I'm talking from experience. I've had to change my outlook on life because I now have a 2 1/2 year old child. Sometimes, I want to smash a pesron's face with a baseball bat just for cutting me off on the freeway. Then I think about my family and hold back.

BTW Several years ago, I had a person point a loaded gun at me, so I know what it feels like. For me it wasn't fear; but rather, my temper I had to hold back. I could feel myself getting pissed.

vegas mma · 10-27-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NWCrazy

That would be a stupid thing to do. It is because he has a family that he has to show restraint.

You want to know what can happen? Irvin goes after the gunmen. Then they retaliate and go after his family with more of their buddies. Those punks have a hell of a lot less to lose than Irvin, I assure you.

A smart family man HAS to think about the safety of his family first...all of the time. And that usually means to suck it up and turn the other cheek. Believe me, I'm talking from experience. I've had to change my outlook on life because I now have a 2 1/2 year old child. Sometimes, I want to smash a pesron's face with a baseball bat just for cutting me off on the freeway. Then I think about my family and hold back.

BTW Several years ago, I had a person point a loaded gun at me, so I know what it feels like. For me it wasn't fear; but rather, my temper I had to hold back. I could feel myself getting pissed.

+1
i had a guy pull a gun on me when i was at a stop light.
he was in his car, i'm not sure what his problem was, but before he pulled the gun we were both talking **** to eachother. i learned that day not to talk **** to people when your wife is in the passenger seat and your 7month old daughter is in the back seat.
it wasn't the first time i've had a gun aimed at me or anything like that. i didn't feel fear for my life that he was going to shoot me. the fear i felt was for my family having to deal with that trauma.

before i had this experience teach me this i was the same way. you cut me off i'm gonna kill you. i've followed a few people home while driving. i've started **** with people for stupid things. i'm not afraid to get my ass beat, been there done that. i've had a few guns pulled on me before that night, but now i have a family i need to take care of. that means no more talking ****.