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Old 09-30-2008, 05:16 AM   #21
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Great article and I agree that Fedor is the best fighter as of now.
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Old 09-30-2008, 06:07 AM   #22
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Hard to take this article seriously when the author says that Fedor fought Silvia "under UFC rules". Unless he's blind, he should have noticed that they fought in a ring, whereas the UFC uses an 8-sided cage (they call it The Octagon, for anyone taking notes).
What he meant was that Fedor fought under the Unified Rules which are in effect in the UFC.
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Old 09-30-2008, 07:18 AM   #23
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The article was alittle to biased for my taste.

Fedor is great but the article wasnt.
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:18 AM   #24
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Hard to take this article seriously when the author says that Fedor fought Silvia "under UFC rules". Unless he's blind, he should have noticed that they fought in a ring, whereas the UFC uses an 8-sided cage (they call it The Octagon, for anyone taking notes).
Whether it was a ring/cage/car park that they fought in, they still fought under the unified rules...which is what the UFC uses, so therefore they fought under 'UFC rules'.
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:36 AM   #25
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Sorry but gsp does not have a perfect record.
It does not matter if he came back and beat the people that beat him, a loss is a loss peroid & come jan when bj penn beats gsp then what ya going to say? lol.

Personally I think its east to come back and beat someone that has already beaten you because now you know what to do.

If BJ beats him then I'll say he doesn't have a pefect record anymore, isn't that obvious? lol.
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If BJ beats him then I'll say he doesn't have a pefect record anymore, isn't that obvious? lol.
But he doesn't have a perfect record now Am I taking crazy pills?
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:32 PM   #28
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If BJ beats him then I'll say he doesn't have a pefect record anymore, isn't that obvious? lol.
GSP got KTFO by Matt Serra! Matt Serra!! Armbarred by Matt Hughes!! And you are comparing him to Fedor !?! LMFAO here, that's what I am doing.
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i've seen the majority of his fights, i just think gsp, bj penn, and anderson silva have fought tougher competition on a more regular basis, not to say that fedor hasn't fought some bad dudes, but to really say he's #1 ever, i think he needs to fight at least a couple times in the ufc.
Fedor is 6-0 against UFC HW Champions. Beat Nog twice, Coleman twice, Kevin Randleman and Tim Sylvia. He destroyed 2 Time UFC HW Champ Sylvia in 36 seconds. He has fought more top Ten Competition than most UFC guys as well.
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Just out of curiosity, what are these negatives you speak of? I'm not starting an argument, just curious.
He is injury prone.

His management, they are the reason he is not in the UFC. Not the silly reason this article gave.

The guys he beat went on to look less than great after fighting him.

I personally think he is as great as people say, but I like to have those questions in the back of my head. Is he really this good? He can't be...can he?
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If only he hit those sweeps like 5 minutes earlier! Awesome post, thanks for the vid's Shred
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Thanks for posting the vid fullonshred
I love the part where Fedor is getting sweeped and he reverse himself back to top in like 5 sek.Fedor is really a ballance artist.It is when he is under most pressure he really shines.
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GSP got KTFO by Matt Serra! Matt Serra!! Armbarred by Matt Hughes!! And you are comparing him to Fedor !?! LMFAO here, that's what I am doing.
I'm talkin right now...ye those things happened but he's a better fighter for learning from the mistakes. Fedor will get caught one day, believe me. And especially if he signs wih the UFC where he will be consistently pitted against the best competetion.

Thats all that happened with GSP's losses, he got caught like everyone will in their career, and look how he's evolved as a MMArtist. Jon Fitch is twice the fighter Serra or Hughes are, and he displayed absolute dominance and maturity from start to finish.

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But he doesn't have a perfect record now Am I taking crazy pills?
Na you're not. You're just not reading the whole thread before commenting. I explained why I regard GSP's record as perfect in my first post.
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But he doesn't have a perfect record now Am I taking crazy pills?
I think the guy means he's got two losses, came back and dominated both of the fighter's who beat him.

Not a perfect record, but something like a perfect slate.
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I think the guy means he's got two losses, came back and dominated both of the fighter's who beat him.

Not a perfect record, but something like a perfect slate.
Exactly what the guy means
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Whether it was a ring/cage/car park that they fought in, they still fought under the unified rules...which is what the UFC uses, so therefore they fought under 'UFC rules'.
That's what the author said, so it was a truthful statement, but it implied that he would do well in the Octagon. It's a misleading statement intended to sway people's opinions who don't think about what is said vs. what it means. A casual reader would read that and think that Fedor fought Silvia in an 8 sided cage with the UFC's rules.

You can be extremely biased and still be technically telling the truth. This is a fine example of that.
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A casual reader would read that and think that Fedor fought Silvia in an 8 sided cage with the UFC's rules.
Tim would have got blasted in the Octagon as well.
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I'm talkin right now...ye those things happened but he's a better fighter for learning from the mistakes. Fedor will get caught one day, believe me. And especially if he signs wih the UFC where he will be consistently pitted against the best competetion.

Thats all that happened with GSP's losses, he got caught like everyone will in their career, and look how he's evolved as a MMArtist. Jon Fitch is twice the fighter Serra or Hughes are, and he displayed absolute dominance and maturity from start to finish.

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Na you're not. You're just not reading the whole thread before commenting. I explained why I regard GSP's record as perfect in my first post.
The only way your illogical reasoning works is if you are actually saying that by Fedor not having lost and redeemed himself ala GSP, that makes him the worse fighter between the two. You are seemingly holding the fact he hasn't lost against him. Yes, GSP dominated Fitch who is twice the fighter Serra and Hughes are, but he still lost to them regardless if he won the rematch.
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Fedor will get caught one day, believe me. And especially if he signs wih the UFC where he will be consistently pitted against the best competetion.
Everybody gets caught at one time or the other, Muhammad Ali got caught, Joe Louis got caught.. it happens to the best of them. Are we going to deny the greatness of these fighters? What would Fedor losing prove? That he is human? Well, we know that. That he is not invincible, well nobody is. People are lurking on Fedor to get beat, that it is getting ridiculous. There is always one fighter that is better than all the rest, and that is Fedor at the moment. The sooner people realize that, the faster they can go back to enjoying his fights or MMA in general, without debating the obvious.

About Fedor facing the best fighters in the UFC, thatīs not really true. Plenty of quality fighters are elsewhere, specially Barnett.
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The only way your illogical reasoning works is if you are actually saying that by Fedor not having lost and redeemed himself ala GSP, that makes him the worse fighter between the two. You are seemingly holding the fact he hasn't lost against him. Yes, GSP dominated Fitch who is twice the fighter Serra and Hughes are, but he still lost to them regardless if he won the rematch.
That's not what I'm saying at all. True, I would like to see how Fedor comes back from a real loss, but it's definitely not the reason for ranking GSP the No. 1 fighter. My reasoning is that I believe if GSP was a natural heavyweight then he would beat Fedor...


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Everybody gets caught at one time or the other, Muhammad Ali got caught, Joe Louis got caught.. it happens to the best of them. Are we going to deny the greatness of these fighters? What would Fedor losing prove? That he is human? Well, we know that. That he is not invincible, well nobody is.
What are you talking about? I've been arguing that GSP got caught and IS the greatest for a few posts now...


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About Fedor facing the best fighters in the UFC, thatīs not really true. Plenty of quality fighters are elsewhere, specially Barnett.
I said 'consistently' fighting the best fighters. That really is true. Barnett is only one fight.
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