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AikaImmortal · 08-17-2007, 10:04 AM

Guile will be appending more information to this topic soon.

On August 10th, while doing routine IP checks on new members (we do this for all new members to assure that they are not previously banned trolls or spammers returning), I noticed the following profile:

http://www.fightforum.com/members/tsgv463.html

Seems innocent enough right? I had prior to this recieved inside information that a coup was building in the nether regions of the forums. While viewing information, the email address came up as "getridofaika@hotmail.com". After seeing this, I was convinced that it was a previously banned ***** and went to cross-reference IP addresses. What I found shocked me. This users IP address traced directly to I Heart LNP's registration IP, and both traced out to bx1-saintjohnnb_pos0-0.net.bell.ca, one of the backbone servers for New Brunswick, CA. This alone proved that it was not mere coincidence.

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Originally Posted by I heart LNP

Wtf????

If it helps prove anything, last night in chat that guy came in while me, kaledonia, wgs2005 and name goes here were in there.

I realise how bad this looks, just know that if I had a problem with you I would say it directly to you not do stupid sh*t like that.

All of the listed names with the exception of kaledonia were members of aforementioned 'team ****'. The conspiracy was set. The liklihood of creating a proxy to an exact IP address of another member means having to get them on a messenger program, initiate a file transfer or direct connection or whatnot to find said IP address, have someone in the area set up a circuit proxy in the area.... basically impossible. I mean, even with certain advanced routing I can get down to a .jp subdomain IP so I could watch HEROs when Kyocera used to stream the events for free, but to be able to nail such an approximate address down is something even I cant pull off, and I have a degree in networking.

After these posts and a few by Jras0001 that questioned I Heart LNP's involvement, LNP posts many members IP addresses and then uses a web based traceroute:

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Originally Posted by I heart LNP

I am no IP expert by any stretch of the imagination, Aika and Jras know more about them than I ever will but just by doing a quick search you find alot of IP matches

All of those are said to be from 22080 Pacific Blvd, Sterling VA. Again maybe I have no clue what I am talking about, I am just trying to show that there must be someway it could have happened.

I have worked way too hard trying to get a good reputation on these forums to risk it by doing something like creating another account and all of a sudden turning into a *****. If I was that stupid than I do not deserve to be a mod. The only thing I have to use as an "alibi" is that as I said earlier me, kaledonia, wgs2005 and name goes here were all in chat at the same time as TSGV463 and as far as I know, it is impossible two have two accounts talking in chat at the same timeI don't expect any of you to believe me and if you guys think I am a liar and that I need to "man up" than I will step down because liars shouldn't be mods.

I posted the following, hoping that LNP was mature enough to admit what was going on.

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Originally Posted by Aikaimmortal

Yes, you are using a visual traceroute. I was using a hard traceroute with backbone servers put into consideration. Ataripitbull is an old friend of mine, and he lives in Detroit. Visual traceroutes stop when pings stop returning, which means the backbone could be neigh or far, or that the IP listed is inactive, and thus the local backbone returns. The server you were using is based in VA obviously.

Traceroutes are ONLY effective when the IP in question is 'active'. Dynamic ISPs such as DSL 'flush' your IPs every so often, or on every reboot, making many of these examples null and void. I traced the following one when xxx member was offline, but oddly enough you would have had to have been online for the traceroute to be active, correct?

Come on dude, if you had manned up and told me you had concerns in the first place rather than taking the ill advise of others and going forth with this retarded idea, we would all be gravy and working on an actual solution.

However, this entire digital sedition is ridiculous.

After this, LNP never responds. While checking chat logs, Guile stumbles apon Nimmy and LNP discussing this issue and how they were 'caught'. Said chat also provided a link to a forum where all sorts of things were happening that put the very security of Fight Forum in jeopardy. It was Guile who did the investigative work from this point on out.

The known facts:

Team **** existed to do the following.

A) Bully members until they felt unwelcome and left. An example is the departure of Seikanjudanski. From private conversations Seikan and I had, he was tired of being constantly hounded by a set group of members (whose identities will come later in this document) and was going to leave. We had set up the Fightforum.com radio show and were ready to begin recording when the true bullying started, including many racist statements in chat by Nimmy, directed towards Seikan. Gooners absence was also celebrated by Team ****.

B) Team **** also existed to oust myself as admin, both by bothering me to the point where I became burnt out with my job here and left, as well as from the inside.

C) Team **** recruitment existed deeply in the 'New Mod 2' thread. This was also discussed on the Team **** boards. All Team **** members were urged to vote for other members so that they would gain mod powers, thus gaining the ability to issue warnings and bans to other members. A few members had been given warnings over petty things by LNP, and threatened with being banned.

There were instances where LNP openly mocked us when quoting himself about how "Team **** was all in fun". LNP also posted IP addresses of fightforum.com members publicly, as well as posted the staff forum topics at his own private forums, which in itself was a violation of site policy and could potentially garner further action.

The memberlist of known malicious team **** members is as follows. Not all members of team **** knew of its true design, and were just friends with some of the members in question and were drawn into it. These members quickly explained the entire situation and were very helpful as the information was coming out. However, other members used this as an opportunity to begin spreading falsehoods to try and create strife within the forum itsself, leading back to a previous goal. Remember, Team ****'s slogan was "We pull the strings on fight forum" which now sounds quite a bit more sinister, does it not?

Nimmy, LNP, and Name_Goes_Here were the primary players in the 'dark side' of events, going as far as to discuss ways to hack around site bans and circumvent FF.com's security.

Side players include the following, with links provided.

The following post was deleted, posted by Corey:

"...Now, If I'm going to be banned, I'd better make it worth it:

F U CK Aika

F U CK Bull

F U CK BCguy

Gooners cool

Pb's cool

F U CK Seikan

IM OUT."

Anderson_Silvas_Dope, who, after reading chat logs, once posted as Silversteins_Dope, and was previously banned for posting links for pirated UFC events. It would make sense that he would harbor ill-will for myself, would it not?

http://www.fightforum.com/212804-post47.html

http://www.fightforum.com/212484-post3.html

(BJPENNDOTCOM was on the list of members Team **** wanted to 'clense' the site of)

http://www.fightforum.com/212796-post16.html

(as was Arelius)

As well as the continued ******** of a topic posted by BJPENNDOTCOM trying to mend the fighting currently taking place here.

http://www.fightforum.com/212757-post42.html

AikaImmortal · 08-17-2007, 10:07 AM

Here are all of dukes shenanigans in the team **** welcome or not thread, and as many of you may know, Duke stalked me online for a while constantly questioning anything i would do, providing constant harassment of me to the point where i actually was questioning myself.

http://www.fightforum.com/fightforum...come-here.html

Also LNP posted the follwing on MMAPlayground.com which is full of mistruths. Comments in bold.

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You guys may have already noticed that there is alot of drama on FF right now surrounding myself.

What happened is I was upset with the lack of effort by the staff of fight forum (mainly AikaImmortal), I felt that the forums haven't been very good lately and that Aika doesn't seem to be willing to try to fix it. For example, a while back there was a person who said that the Nog/Herring fight at UFC 73 was fixed. Aika banned the guy who posted it and made a thread in the staff forum saying that from now on anybody that accuses a fighter of cheating should be banned. Fast forward to a couple weeks ago, earvinarp made posts saying that Mark Coleman was a steroid user and a fight fixer so I gave him a warning via PM. I figured I was being easy on the guy as Aika said that anybody that does that should be banned yet aika sent me a PM saying that I was out of line by warning earvinarp (who is a friend of aika) aika even went on to say that all of Mark Coleman and Nobuhiko Takada's fights in Pride were fixed. I thought that was pretty hipocritical.
Actually, earvinarp is not getting treatment because he is 'my friend'. I don't even know the guy and have never conversed with him for an extended period of time. I am just extending the rights of fair treatment to him as to all members. Firstly, the PM did not state that ALL of Colemans fights were fixed in PRIDE. It stated that all of Takada's wins in PRIDE were works, and billed as "Shoots" in the Japanese media. Takada originated from Shoot style Puroresu which looks like MMA but has predetermined endings. The reason the warning was out of line is because it was not accusing a fight of being fixed, Takadas fights being fixed are well known to PRIDE fans, and have been confirmed by Stephen Quadros and Bas Rutten.

I figured that in order for the forum to get better, people like earvinarp and king kameamea should be dealt with so I created a new account to try and get people discussing FF's problems and what should be done about it. I knew I couldn't use my own account because it would gaurantee that I would lose my mod powers (aika doesn't like being questioned), atleast this way I would have some chance of remaining a mod.
You never asked me personally!

Well I forgot to use a proxy so aika found out that it was me that made the account. Aika sent me a PM where he said I am a "liar and a *****" and then they banned me and nimmy and said anybody who was in "team ****" is not allowed to be a mod.
I never sent a PM to LNP nor Nimmy. Anyone with admin controls can confirm this by looking at my PM logs. The last PM sent to LNP was on 7-23-07.

Team **** for those who dont know is a group of about 20 members and we made our own private forum. In our forums, nimmy made a list of people that were deemed "enemies of team ****" this list was purely in jest (it included BCguy because he said poodles are gay) and to say who isn't aloud in Team **** yet aika uses that as a reason to run 20 good members of fight forum look like crap and not be allowed to be a mods.

It sucks that because I was trying to help the forums I got permanently banned and will be labeled as a "liar and a *****" but what can ya do.

I just wanted to try and get my side of the story out there as its hard to say what kind of crap they will say in their "announcement" that they are going to make later on. Just know that I never wanted to cause all of this drama and never has "team ****" harrassed any member of the forum as guile and aika say.

I gauruntee you guys, "Team ****" has never been a part in any member bashing or harrassment. If you don't believe you, send me an email at xxxx and I will send you every single page of every conversation that we had our forums. The only thing Team **** has done EVER to break the rules is when I, not anybody else, created a new account to try and help the forums. I screwed up and I accept that but Nimmy and Name Goes Here should not be banned and my actions should not be taken out on any other member of Team ****.

The truth of the matter is, we weren't banned for member bashing or for me making a new account, we were banned because aika cannot stand being challenged.

Good luck to FF, I hope you guys get through all of this BS and somebody has the balls to stand up to aika. I have gotten 4 or 5 emails from people who say they believe me and they agree with me but yet in public they wont admit they support me.

In closing, I just want you guys to think about why we are banned permanently when guys like king kameamea or earvinarp rarely get as much as a warning.

Thanks guys for reading this, I doubt any of you guys will take anything I say as any thing more than "words of an angry *****" but whatever, atleast I had a chance to speak my mind.

The rest of the PM is refuted in the evidence presented above.

All of the following useracounts have been indefinitely suspended. Full penalties have yet to be decided. Further information regarding name_goes_here is also forthcoming, as we are writing this all as a group, I am simply the one who is posting it, and I am swamped at work ATM.

Again:

As the FF Staff decides a course of action, the rest of the forums will be notified as to what that action will be and why.

This is to serve as a notice / warning to the entire FightForum community:

Racist statements, behavior, and harassment of any type WILL NOT BE TOLERATED on FightForum and will result in swift and severe punishment from here on out.