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Old 08-21-2007, 05:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Haha, nice to hear it man...remember, its better to get one thats too small than too big. Dont want her to think that you think she has fat fingers or something. (same goes for clothes). If you cant figure out her size, just buy from the teen racks and youll be golden....
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So, anyone else?

The Dr. is here for you !
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I don't need advice, but wanted to say that this an extremely thoughtful and kind thread, nice job.
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Cool, thanks guys. It would be cooler if people used it but if there is no need or people dont need anything, then I guess thats a good thing huh?
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My Central Heating and Air Conditioning unit has blown.

My house is only 8 years old and the first guy I called out said that the contractor used a generic make-shift AC/Heat unit. He found different brands of parts used, and said its almost like the contractor built the unit in his garage himself.

The first guy quoted me 2800 for a new unit.

Second guys I called were Sears.

Sears was more thorough and found my furnace was ****ed and also some jackass (not me), left a paper manual near the furnace and that the furnace was so shot it burned the manual sitting near the furnace. The Sears guy said I was lucky the house didnt catch on fire.

Sears was thorough, but said to replace everything would cost 15 grand. So I was floored.

I asked a friend of mine who's a hospital Maintenance Supervisor and he said Sears is always expensive because they sub-contract. My friend said it would be best to go direct to another direct contractor to get the AC fixed because even top of the line Residential AC units are 7,000-8000 max, not freakin 15 thousand.

So what do I do?

Go with sears? Or get more direct quotes from AC contractors? I guess I'm asking because I trust Sears more nationally but my friend said that's a farce because all contractors have to guarantee their work by law for a certain warranty period of time.


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Old 08-23-2007, 07:05 PM   #27 (permalink)
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My Central Heating and Air Conditioning unit has blown.

My house is only 8 years old and the first guy I called out said that the contractor used a generic make-shift AC/Heat unit. He found different brands of parts used, and said its almost like the contractor built the unit in his garage himself.

The first guy quoted me 2800 for a new unit.

Second guys I called were Sears.

Sears was more thorough and found my furnace was ****ed and also some jackass (not me), left a paper manual near the furnace and that the furnace was so shot it burned the manual sitting near the furnace. The Sears guy said I was lucky the house didnt catch on fire.

Sears was thorough, but said to replace everything would cost 15 grand. So I was floored.

I asked a friend of mine who's a hospital Maintenance Supervisor and he said Sears is always expensive because they sub-contract. My friend said it would be best to go direct to another direct contractor to get the AC fixed because even top of the line Residential AC units are 7,000-8000 max, not freakin 15 thousand.

So what do I do?

Go with sears? Or get more direct quotes from AC contractors? I guess I'm asking because I trust Sears more nationally but my friend said that's a farce because all contractors have to guarantee their work by law for a certain warranty period of time.


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Your friend is right. Sears, and just about any large home improvement retailer such as Home Deopt or Lowes, subcontract out all their installations of equipment or buildings. You have to pay the retail price for their "service" as well as the parts youre purchasing.

Now, with Sears, youll have warranties and someone to go to directly if something goes wrong. However, and this varies from state to state as to what is exactly required, anyone that contracts to work on a residence or building has to be bonded and liceansed as well as guarantee their work and parts for a certain amount of time. You will save money by goind directly to a HVAC contractor. You should be able to ask for references from anyone submitting a bid for the work and if they are a descent operation or a reputable contractor, they would be able to provide you with references to people they have already provided services for.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Sears is in the business to make as much money as they can...so you could expect them to not necessarily go with the most reliable subcontractor they find but the cheapest.

However, you said that the Sears guy was a bit more thorough on the inspection and his price estimate might include replacing more stuff than the first guy. Thats something to think about as well.

If you deal directly with the HVAC contractor yourself, you will have more leg work to do as far as finding the best value for your particular situation but that also gives you more control over who does the work and what they do.

I would try dealing directly with a HVAC professional before going with a big chain store like Sears.
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Thanks JRAS. I have a Carrier guy here right now. He seems relatively cool and I showed him your post and he starts laughing about your Sears finding the cheapest sub contractor guy comment.
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Thanks JRAS. I have a Carrier guy here right now. He seems relatively cool and I showed him your post and he starts laughing about your Sears finding the cheapest sub contractor guy comment.
Also, Krav. Most contractors are required to provide a copy of their business license and insurance upon request and will do any repair work needed within the warranty timeframe faster. You don't have to deal with a third point of contact, like Sears, and don't want any negative feedback through the BBB because their reputation and word of mouth is a major part of their new business. I worked at a HomeBase many years back and the subcontractors we used were the source of 99% of our complaints. They usually are the cheapest on the market and deal with all home improvement stores so are way overbooked and can never finish the work in the timeframe promised and when they do show up they rush through the jobs to get to the next job as quickly as possible.
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Also, Krav. Most contractors are required to provide a copy of their business license and insurance upon request and will do any repair work needed within the warranty timeframe faster. You don't have to deal with a third point of contact, like Sears, and don't want any negative feedback through the BBB because their reputation and word of mouth is a major part of their new business. I worked at a HomeBase many years back and the subcontractors we used were the source of 99% of our complaints. They usually are the cheapest on the market and deal with all home improvement stores so are way overbooked and can never finish the work in the timeframe promised and when they do show up they rush through the jobs to get to the next job as quickly as possible.
Cool, thanks for the heads up.
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Krav .... i just told my wife about your dilemma.

Her response went like this

Her: Is he married ?
Me: Hes seperated
Her: So nail her .... whats the problem ?
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Krav .... i just told my wife about your dilemma.

Her response went like this

Her: Is he married ?
Me: Hes seperated
Her: So nail her .... whats the problem ?
LOL

Separated. Which I guess means you're not together but not divorced which means you can


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Cool MTK, hope it helped. Carrier is a pretty reputable group so you should do ok with them.
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Ya, I guess you can poke fun, its cool. Im a pretty easy target at the moment so have at it.

In case you didnt read my first post in this, go back and take a look. I dont particularly like Dr. Phil and in no way would try to emulate the guy. I just do a descent job at listening to people and, from time to time, have somewhat descent advice to give back in return.

I know a lot of people dont ask for advice from people because they get a slanted answer. If its your friends, sometimes they tend to side with you and vice versa if its not a friend. However, I try to give completely impartial advice...when advice is actually being asked for that is.

Oh, and to not get too deep into why I did this...it helps me as much as it does anyone else.

I know you were probably joking and thats cool, I wasnt offended or anything at all like that but thought Id just explain why I did this thread.

If its bugging people or what not, Ill happily delete it or just close it.
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My Central Heating and Air Conditioning unit has blown.

My house is only 8 years old and the first guy I called out said that the contractor used a generic make-shift AC/Heat unit. He found different brands of parts used, and said its almost like the contractor built the unit in his garage himself.

The first guy quoted me 2800 for a new unit.

Second guys I called were Sears.

Sears was more thorough and found my furnace was ****ed and also some jackass (not me), left a paper manual near the furnace and that the furnace was so shot it burned the manual sitting near the furnace. The Sears guy said I was lucky the house didnt catch on fire.

Sears was thorough, but said to replace everything would cost 15 grand. So I was floored.

I asked a friend of mine who's a hospital Maintenance Supervisor and he said Sears is always expensive because they sub-contract. My friend said it would be best to go direct to another direct contractor to get the AC fixed because even top of the line Residential AC units are 7,000-8000 max, not freakin 15 thousand.

So what do I do?

Go with sears? Or get more direct quotes from AC contractors? I guess I'm asking because I trust Sears more nationally but my friend said that's a farce because all contractors have to guarantee their work by law for a certain warranty period of time.


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Get some more quotes. I am the building inspector in my town and them quotes are WAY to high !
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Ya, I guess you can poke fun, its cool. Im a pretty easy target at the moment so have at it.

In case you didnt read my first post in this, go back and take a look. I dont particularly like Dr. Phil and in no way would try to emulate the guy. I just do a descent job at listening to people and, from time to time, have somewhat descent advice to give back in return.

I know a lot of people dont ask for advice from people because they get a slanted answer. If its your friends, sometimes they tend to side with you and vice versa if its not a friend. However, I try to give completely impartial advice...when advice is actually being asked for that is.

Oh, and to not get too deep into why I did this...it helps me as much as it does anyone else.

I know you were probably joking and thats cool, I wasnt offended or anything at all like that but thought Id just explain why I did this thread.

If its bugging people or what not, Ill happily delete it or just close it.

Nah man its a good idea for some, just poking fun
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