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What will the main use for it be?

MasterMWM

The police used 9mm around where I lived. Not a bad looking piece either (all black). Not to familar with the .40.
I was thinking of getting a snub nose .38 just to where around my ankle. Then I thought to myself, Who am I going to shoot? I don't live near Detroit at the moment. I still want one for protection expecially if I live away from home again. Do you guys have waiting periods for guns up there?

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LABJJ

I have a glock 35 which is the special SWAT glock, it is a 40 cal. I also have a glock 26 (9mm) and a glock 27( 40 Cal). These are both the baby glocks. There is very little recoil with both and the 27 holds the same amount of rounds. Also the 15 round mag for my 35 can fit in my small 27 because they are the same cal. When I have to qualify I find no difference b/w the 9 and 40 as when shooting, but the 40 will have that stopping effect.

I kinda regret getting the 9mm but, it was my first glock and I did not know how they shot. I always used a Sig P20 45 cal. The 9mm I feel is just a little too small.

A little air weight 38 snub, mentioned before, is a really nice ankle gun and lightweight.

It depends what you really want and what the intention of the firearm is for.

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BCguy

At work we use a .38 special. But we are switching over to .40 S&W auto. I'm buying the glock mostly for target shooting and because i work nights and my wife is home alone. There was an attempted home invasion just down the street the other night so im kinda getting paranoid.

Any way. Im thinking of getting the G22 or the G17.

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LABJJ

Just wonderin BC Guy what type of work do you do? I am a State Trooper. They issue the SIG P20, 45 cal. Nice gun but only holds 9 rounds, 8 in mag and one in chamber. The glock 35 or even the glock 22, 40 cal give you the stopping power and good amount of ammo.

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arelius

First off buying a glock is your first mistake. Junk junk junk.

Go with the Springfield XD. I shoot a few times per month and I have done this for yrs.

The glock is junk in comparison to the Springfield XD. Ergenomically better smoother action more accurate.

9mm is big enough for protection, 40 cal is better but you will pay more for ammo.

Ammo prices are like gas prices. Sky rocketing up and they won't be coming down.

Good luck and be safe.

PS, I started with a glock, thought it was the shiz. Then I graduated to the XD. I hold a 6 inch pattern using a point and shoot method. I shoot at the top of the department now. Out of about a hundred deputies I rank in top 5.

LABJJ

Never shot a springfield. Is there price similar to the Glock. Guns are so expensive you have to almost go to a range that rents out different guns to try them or it is just a hit and a miss. Most of our Swat guys and SRT guys carry the glock. Once a gun is popular though, as the glock has gotten, it is hard for newer and better guns to get introduced into the mix because everytime you get a gun you think it is the best, until you try the next one. It can become a very expensive hobby collecting guns.

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BCguy

Brinks armored guard.

In canada we can only have mags that hold 10 rounds. Also the glock35 is prohibited here. Any gun with a barrel length shorter than or equal to 4.14 inches is prohibited. We have 3 levels of firearms. Non-restricted (basically hunting rifles and shotguns. Then restricted (most handguns and some rifles) then prohibited (all fully automatic or converted fully or handguns shoter than i listed above). With prohibited you need a special prohibited status to obtain them , which you cant get anymore. My .38 is also prohibited by i have a special license to use it only for work.

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LABJJ

Pretty strict sounds like. On duty I carry the glock 35 and AR-15 as my long gun. With the way things have been going everywhere, in New Orleans, we had some armored guards off loading at a bank get shot. They did not get any money and were later caught, but that is also a high risk occupation, you'd think they would make special circumstances for your job.

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MFS fan

If it's between the G17 and G22 I'd have to say get the G22C. Since it's compensated the recoil feels like the 17 and you stay on target. I use to carry the 22C on my thigh and the G27 on my ankle.

Stay safe and cover your six!

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BCguy

Yeah its kind of a joke here. We each have one .38 and a shotgun on the truck. We are switching to the .40 like i said. There has also been talk of us getting 9mm beretta CX4 storms to replace the shotgun.

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Jras0001

I have used a 9mm many many times, both Beretta and a SIG. I honestly prefer the .40 because it has more knockdown force than the 9mm. Unless you hit bone when you shoot someone, chances are that it will go straight through them without causing a lot of tissue damage due to the velocity of the round. I liked the .40 much better and it tends to pack more force when it hits and its just as accurate.

Also, if I were you, I would honestly try out a Sig before you buy. I have always had great luck with those and if I were to buy a gun tomorrow, that would be the first I looked at.

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Saskabush

Oh come on BC you don't need a gun in Saskatoon!

This city is getting pretty scary, I am almost 24 now and I am fairly scared of 16-8 year olds, they are nuts these days with their weapons and thug life mentalities.

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AikaImmortal

40cal

While 9mm ammo may be cheaper, it lacks the knockdown power that a .40 can deliver.

As for makes? Get you a SIG-Sauer. Thank me later. P228 aka the M11 comes with a 9mm and 40cal option. Best pistol I have ever shot.

(I sound like Jras' clone in this post eh?)

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arelius

They are a bit more expensive than glocks.

The only reason glock is so popular is because when they were first introduced, the were the best of the best. They were standard issue from feds down to city cops. When gov't dominates the market, that gives the average joe the impression that the weapon is the best. I am not knocking the glock, it was a nice weapon for the times. But now it is just simply old school.

Guns have evolved and XD is taking over. I was the first in my dept. to get the XD, now I lost count of how many have turned in the department issue glock or now it is used as their back up.

It is worth a few extra dollars. It also comes ready to accesorise with the 3/8th guide rail for light, lasers etc.

arelius

Come on now, I have heard this a thousand times. Are you telling me that if I shot you with my 9mm you would suck up the shot, still standing, pull your 40 and shoot me?

And while you are on the ground, your assailant with the 9mm is certainly not done with you, he will probably plug a couple more to your body cavity.


Does a 40 have more KO power? Heck yes it does. Will a 9mm not knock a man down? Come on...its gonna put him on his butt and we all know it.

PS. Bisping is gettin KTFO tonight.

Jras0001

Intelligent minds think alike 'eh? haha.

Ya, Ive got a LOT of experience with the Sig-Sauer M11 (9mm) version and it just doesnt have the stopping power of the .40 thats for sure. The M11 has a nice sized grip for people who dont have large hands and its trigger pull is very smooth. It also lacks a mechanical safty, which can be a good or a bad thing depending on if you know what youre doing or not. It does have a decoking lever though.

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AikaImmortal

From experience in law enforcement (brother in law), junkies high out of their mind are NOT stopped by a 9mm. We have lots of methheads and people on PCP, and in those cases going with a higher circumference ammunition is never a bad idea.

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Jras0001

I can tell you from up close and personal experience that no, a 9mm will not "put you on your butt". Unless it hits bone or something else to really absorb the force, it will just punch clean through your body. Ive seen people hit three or four times with a 9mm and still standing trying to fight back. The best place to hit with a 9mm is the head, plain and simple.

With a .40, it is a larger round and is moving at a lower velocity therefore transferring more kinetic energy into the target thus delivering more knock down power. If you hit a person center mass with a .40 cal, they will go down much faster and easier than if it was a 9mm.

In fact, several law enforcement agencies have switched either to a .40 or a 10mm gun for that very reason.

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