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Old 01-10-2008, 01:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I saw this on another site and it blew my mind. If you took a standard sheet of paper and managed to fold it 100 times, how thick would it be? For starters, I know that you can't fold a piece of paper that many times. The most you can typically get is seven. But just pretend that you can. Take the average thickness of said piece of paper, .1mm, and double it 100 times.

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Over 12 billion light years thick! The answer varies, depending on which year you are using. A light year, you know, is the distance light will travel in one year. I used the Julian year, 365.25 days, which equates to about 9.4 quadrillion meters that the light travels. My answer was a staggering 13.4 billion light years after 100 folds.

That is insane!
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Yea i know what you on baout mate, Have you seen the Mythbusters? They Broke the Myth, They folded a piece of paper 9 or 11 times. Grainted the paper was very thin and it was bigegr than a football pitch.

But a normal 80gsm a4 paper you cant fold more the 7 times! And yeh the paper doubles its layers, When i saw it for the 1st time i thought it was very cool
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I have watched the show from time to time, but have not seen the one you mentioned. It is a pretty good show though. And the redhead that assists with the experiments is kinda hot.
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Kerry ot Torry her name is shes in are Uk based FHM magazine Shes very hot Try searching for it on tube tis a great eposide.
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Wow.. being the nerd I am I wrote a simple script in python to calculate this.. oddly I don't have the decimal module running to create a longer float and I am too lazy at the moment.. so lets just say:

1.267650600228237 e70
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I saw this on another site and it blew my mind. If you took a standard sheet of paper and managed to fold it 100 times, how thick would it be? For starters, I know that you can't fold a piece of paper that many times. The most you can typically get is seven. But just pretend that you can. Take the average thickness of said piece of paper, .1mm, and double it 100 times.

The answer?
Over 12 billion light years thick! The answer varies, depending on which year you are using. A light year, you know, is the distance light will travel in one year. I used the Julian year, 365.25 days, which equates to about 9.4 quadrillion meters that the light travels. My answer was a staggering 13.4 billion light years after 100 folds.

That is insane!
This kinda reminds me of the theoretical technology theory in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.

23rd Century Star Trek had to travel back in time to 1988 to find whales that were extinct in the 23rd Centruy because a probe in the 23rd century was destroying starships and federations and it only spoke whale language (corny, I know, but still cool).

Anyway, the 23rd Century Engineer (when creating a whale tank), confronted a 1984 Engineer and wanted to know how thick a wall had to be to withstand 500 tons of metric pressure of water. And the 1984 Engineer all arrogant said "Easy, 6 inches".

Then the 23rd Century Engineer said "Well, what if I showed you a way to build the same wall, but be only 1 inch thick?"

And the 1984 guy was all "You're crazy". And the 23rd century guy gave him the technology.

I dont know why, but the paper folding thing sorta sounds like the same idea.

LOL
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This kinda reminds me of the theoretical technology theory in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.

23rd Century Star Trek had to travel back in time to 1988 to find whales that were extinct in the 23rd Centruy because a probe in the 23rd century was destroying starships and federations and it only spoke whale language (corny, I know, but still cool).

Anyway, the 23rd Century Engineer (when creating a whale tank), confronted a 1984 Engineer and wanted to know how thick a wall had to be to withstand 500 tons of metric pressure of water. And the 1984 Engineer all arrogant said "Easy, 6 inches".

Then the 23rd Century Engineer said "Well, what if I showed you a way to build the same wall, but be only 1 inch thick?"

And the 1984 guy was all "You're crazy". And the 23rd century guy gave him the technology.

I dont know why, but the paper folding thing sorta sounds like the same idea.

LOL
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LoL ...... Get off the booze Krav.
You mean other than debating how many times a piece of paper can be folded?

12 billion light years?

I love Dirty Fighter, and this is not to you bro. Good thread.

But..

You think NASA thinks about how many times they can fold a paper when they ask for their 30 billion dollar a year budget and why it takes 500 million miles to get to Mars and they dont know how to get there????

But give us the 30 billion anyway?

Although folding a piece of paper it 7 times shows they could travel X billions numbers of light years? BILLIONS?

Science is bunk. Precisely why mankind still can't cure the common cold


I love it.

If you can fold a piece of paper 100 times, you can equate billions of light years.

As cute as scientists think they are, that's the same as someone saying a CREATOR can build the world in 7 days, which according to this premise is plausible now.

Can you fold a piece of paper 100 times? NO. Not right now. But if you folded it 7 times?


Hahahaa.

Scientists are more sounding like theologians more and m ore.
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Can't fold a paper 100 times, but, let's SAY you could

But just pretend that you can. Take the average thickness of said piece of paper, .1mm, and double it 100 times.



"Pretend YOu can, is the same as Creation theory IMO, and NOBODY wants to entertai that in this world right now.?


Haaahah
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Lmaq, Krav! Only you could spin a simple math equation into a theological debate! I don't know if you add credibility to the claim in the original post or take away from it, but you make it entertaining as hell.
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Dirty, you just blew my mind!!!
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Ummm... I'll go get some drugs and return to this thread so it can really blow my mind.

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As cute as scientists think they are, that's the same as someone saying a CREATOR can build the world in 7 days, which according to this premise is plausible now.

Can you fold a piece of paper 100 times? NO. Not right now. But if you folded it 7 times?


Hahahaa.

Scientists are more sounding like theologians more and m ore.
What the...


Nevermind, I think Krav just blew my mind.
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I don't quite understand this thread...


Krav, don't cops get tested for drugs?
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I don't quite understand this thread...
Just passing along a bit of useless trivia I found on the internets. And to prove just how big of a dork I am, I made a spreadsheet.



I used this to try to disprove it only to find out it was true.
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Heh, thats why I did it in Python even if my floating point was off.
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Lmaq, Krav! Only you could spin a simple math equation into a theological debate! I don't know if you add credibility to the claim in the original post or take away from it, but you make it entertaining as hell.
Damn righty.

Lol.

And I'm watching Giants/Cowboys now, so I might just invent a longer lasting whatever before we're threw.
And to answer the posters question if cops get tested for drugs?

Only in the jurisdictions that warrant a potential for corruption. My dept in incorruptible because we servea community that has alot of $$$ and they pay us well to watch their houses.


Lol
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On that note. I fold a paper 7 times and it equals billions of light years?
Maybe to a mathematician that sounds normal, but to your average Joe public civil servant?

Sounds like magic. It's all theoretical as Michiu Kaku says./


so If I fill a cup of coffee up to the brim, Then measure the coffee pot, then multiply it by 100, I might actually have achieved world peace?
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