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**SPOILERS** Yarennoka! results 12/31/07

MCx2

Posted 12:29 pm, 01/04/2008

Crazy

Hmm, you are wrong about most the stuff you say actually.
Fedor was 100 % sure winning before the last armbar since he was this far [] from finishing it with his first armbar.So he did not loose every single sec until that. Fedor hat the only strike while standing up before his failed TD atempt.
You are simply wrong ;)



Says the man with a Fedor avatar (is that Fedor? :D)... :rolleyes:

To each his own, but there is no wrong or right in this situation, it's all opinion. I gave HMC credit for 2 takedowns, controlling position, and avoiding a sub. Fedor gets credit for attempting a sub and landing 1 strike. That's points in HMC's favor in my book. So no, he didn't lose every single second, but he was losing. Thanks for playing.

Gygax

Posted 11:57 am, 01/04/2008

Hey Aika, apparently Akiyama's camp has protested the legality of the soccer kick and Tanikawa is investigating.

majestyk1976

Posted 9:47 am, 01/04/2008

Crashsti

I did'nt see anything i did'nt expect in the Fedor v. HMC fight. Typical David vs. Goliath match, with Fedor's only real concern being HMC's height and weight advantage. I seriously hope that Fedor is matched against more worthy opponents in the future.



MMA TKO � Fedor Vs Hong Man Choi Fight Video Yarennoka!

Seriously, me too. I just watched the fight. True, one time Hong fell on Fedor, but the other two would be considered take downs in IMO. Hong's size and weight help him w/ the takedowns, but it obvious he has no ground game. Who else in M-1 is worthy?? Fedor taking these fights means nothing to me. But, to each his own. Was a less than 2 minute entertainment!!

fullonshred

Posted 10:21 pm, 01/02/2008

Aika, from that picture above, and even better ones I have seen - the kick certainly APPEARS illegal to me.

Crashsti

Posted 9:50 am, 01/02/2008

I did'nt see anything i did'nt expect in the Fedor v. HMC fight. Typical David vs. Goliath match, with Fedor's only real concern being HMC's height and weight advantage. I seriously hope that Fedor is matched against more worthy opponents in the future.

AikaImmortal

Posted 3:29 pm, 01/01/2008

Gygax

True, the crowd was booing him louder than I've ever heard anyone booed in Japanese events. Real loud.

Fight Finish
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Akiyama decks Misaki
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The story of Choo Sung-Hoon | FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry.

Of note:

Last night, Kazuo Misaki insulted Choo Sung-Hoon in front of a big crowd and on live television.
�Akiyama, you betrayed so many people and little kids in the ring. I cannot unforgive you. But, after tonight�s match with you, your heart reached me. After tonight, you should fight with a deep apology in mind for people.� Motioning to the crowd, Misaki asked, �Would you support? Judo is the best! Everybody, Japanese is strong!�
Why does Misaki unforgive Choo? Why does Misaki dishonor Choo?
�Judo is the best!� is Choo�s famous catch-phrase. It seems Misaki jeered Choo by using it. He said, �Japanese is strong!� Some people here in South Korea feel that this is disgraceful to zainichi (Korean-Japanese) because Choo is already Japanese.
Choo seems to be very embarrassed.
Korea and Japan has a long history.
Of course, there is a thought that K-1 intended to help Choo�s return to the Japanese scene. People are angry and the internet community in Korea is exploding. They are cursing Misaki. They also think his kick for the KO was illegal (like a soccer kick showed by Kid Yamamoto at Dynamite). In the picture, Choo�s hand is on the ground. Yarennoka rules said that kicks to opponent�s face who is on the ground are banned.

http://www.antiddanzi.com/bbs/data/gmn/10_juwun.jpg

Crazy

Posted 8:56 am, 01/01/2008

FatCatMC

It was a subjective statement, and I stand by it. Fedor attempted 2 takedowns (which was the only action in the first 1:30) and not only were they not successful, they resulted in 2 takedowns for HMC, one resulting in HMC ending up in Fedor's 1/2 guard.

So yes, Fedor lost every second of the fight until he pulled off the sub. :p

And yes, Fedor agrees with you in it being "mat burn" on his face from attempting one of the armbars:

Fedor On First Round Submission of Choi



Hmm, you are wrong about most the stuff you say actually.
Fedor was 100 % sure winning before the last armbar since he was this far [] from finishing it with his first armbar.So he did not loose every single sec until that. Fedor hat the only strike while standing up before his failed TD atempt.
You are simply wrong ;)

subgenius

Posted 8:49 am, 01/01/2008

The only reason that the TDs failed was because HMC fell on Fedor like an oak tree. It was size, not skill.

Hmm, Fedor stated the ropes prevented the TDs. I wonder what the Fedor-HMC match would have been like in the UFC cage?

MCx2

Posted 12:22 am, 01/01/2008

Saskabush

Getting owned? That's a bold statement, Choi didn't land any meaningful strikes on the feet or ground. That looks like rug burn on his face, probably from the huge size of Choi's gloves alone. Fedor is world class off of his back, I'm not sure what you are talking about here.

This was an awesome card, every fight was full of excitement. UFC 79 was good but this was better.



It was a subjective statement, and I stand by it. Fedor attempted 2 takedowns (which was the only action in the first 1:30) and not only were they not successful, they resulted in 2 takedowns for HMC, one resulting in HMC ending up in Fedor's 1/2 guard.

So yes, Fedor lost every second of the fight until he pulled off the sub. :p

And yes, Fedor agrees with you in it being "mat burn" on his face from attempting one of the armbars:

Fedor On First Round Submission of Choi

T-Bone

Posted 5:16 pm, 12/31/2007

I just finished watching the fights...had to record it this morning and watched after work.

What a great event. :D

It was good listening to Kenny Rice & Trigg. I like both of them.

Akiyama dropped Misaki...I thought it was over. Good recovery by Misaki. I don't know much of the history between these two fighters but what is up with the lecture thing that was going on after the fight was over? Like Trigg said (and I'm paraphrasing), "You just beat me and now you're yelling at me. Your name isn't Daddy." Definitely a cultural difference for Akiyama to accept that crap.

The Sakurai post fight interview was hilarious.

Yup, Melendez loses for the first time...just so happens it's the first time I put pts on him. Ishida's a real quick fighter.

I actually was a little nervous for Fedor when HMC landed on him twice. That dude is huge and outweighed him by something like 130 lbs. It was a freak show type of match and Fedor by sub early surprised nobody.

Think Aoki took the Olympian seriously? Geez, if not for the eye closing he probably would've lost that one to the MMA first timer.

All in all, good stuff and I'm glad to hear M-1 saying they'll be back in Japan soon.

OneTwoPunch

Posted 5:07 pm, 12/31/2007

Fedor made a Choi tap rather easily, but Choi looked like a fish out of water on the ground. The only challenge that Fedor faced was the sheer size of Choi, and even that he had a little trouble with. I'll wait to see a few more of his fights in 2008 to determine Fedor P4P #1 in the world.

Saskabush

Posted 4:09 pm, 12/31/2007

FatCatMC

I saw the fight. He was getting owned until he pulled off the arm bar. HMC was just too big. When Fedor went for the takedown, HMC just fell on him. The first time he fell into half guard but looked pretty clueless when he got there. Second time, Fedor pulled off the arm bar.



Getting owned? That's a bold statement, Choi didn't land any meaningful strikes on the feet or ground. That looks like rug burn on his face, probably from the huge size of Choi's gloves alone. Fedor is world class off of his back, I'm not sure what you are talking about here.

This was an awesome card, every fight was full of excitement. UFC 79 was good but this was better.

Cacti45

Posted 3:42 pm, 12/31/2007

The-Iceman-Chuck-Liddell

I was pretty sure Gilbert was going to lose. I was VERY unimpressed with his last fight, and now this one to.



Gilbert just fought one of the few people who could fight at a higher pace then him. I became a huge Ishida fan aftger last night, he was determined to win, and Gil wasnt gonna stop him.

The-Iceman-Chuck-Liddell

Posted 2:48 pm, 12/31/2007

I was pretty sure Gilbert was going to lose. I was VERY unimpressed with his last fight, and now this one to.

Cacti45

Posted 2:37 pm, 12/31/2007

When Misaki kicked Aikyama he was clearly on both feet, he was jsut hunched over. I wanted Akiyama to win too, but Misaki is a tough SOB and deserved the win. How bout Ishida, he jumps into my 5th place LW rankings spot.

Mad props to the Grabaka Hit man - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums

u can clearly see on that gif

MTKrav911

Posted 1:50 pm, 12/31/2007

subgenius

So, Fedor beat a kickboxer. No surprise there, he has beaten a few of THE BEST kickboxers in the world (Hunt, Mirko, etc). Why anybody thought that this fight would be any different is way beyond me. From what I saw, it was a joke of a match. If he had lost this match, then he would have a BIG problem. This fight was meaningless, and it showed. HMC had no business being in a match with Fedor.



I think they fell for the Lurch vs Little Man syndrome like I did. Sometimes just a really big dude whos a huge underdog is enough.

I'm watching the replay now, I'm on the Russo fight. So far, yes, a very good production and with great fights.

Gygax

Posted 1:35 pm, 12/31/2007

AikaImmortal

(first paragraph was posted but gygax replied before i did.. ) He also got hit several times by kicks when he was laying on the ground, which is illegal.. those may have done the damage to call the fight.. I was watching on a low-fi japanese stream as I am too poor to have HDnet or even an HDtv so I may have missed something.

As for the extra chances... Akiyama is Zainichi Korean.. hes not actually from Japan. K-1 does well with giving him fair judging, but the pro Japan bias towards Misaki was very blatant in this fight.



True, the crowd was booing him louder than I've ever heard anyone booed in Japanese events. Real loud.

Fight Finish
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Akiyama decks Misaki
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AikaImmortal

Posted 12:49 pm, 12/31/2007

(first paragraph was posted but gygax replied before i did.. ) He also got hit several times by kicks when he was laying on the ground, which is illegal.. those may have done the damage to call the fight.. I was watching on a low-fi japanese stream as I am too poor to have HDnet or even an HDtv so I may have missed something.

As for the extra chances... Akiyama is Zainichi Korean.. hes not actually from Japan. K-1 does well with giving him fair judging, but the pro Japan bias towards Misaki was very blatant in this fight.

Gygax

Posted 12:48 pm, 12/31/2007

AikaImmortal

Bull**** how Akiyama got KOed from an illegal strike.



I've tried to rewatch it in slo mo. Its real close. His knees are clearly off the ground, but his hands are just coming off when the kick lands. With the way the crowd was cheering Misaki and how quickly he was announced as the winner, you almost think they really wanted him to win over Akiyama. But that was very close to being illegal if it wasn't in fact so.

That right cross from Akiyama that floored Misaki was a beauty. How he didn't finish him was amazing. They gave Misaki every opportunity to recover, meanwhile, the ref jumped right in when Akiyama went down from the kick to the face. Granted he was out, but they didn't give him half the chance Misaki got.

FightingIrish

Posted 12:40 pm, 12/31/2007

AikaImmortal

Bull**** how Akiyama got KOed from an illegal strike.



He was standing when he got hit with the kick, if that's what your talking about.:( Ow well I got at least half of what I bet back from the Takimoto fight.

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