DirtyChuckRulz!

not as much action as i would have liked to see. there was some great grappling. i hate to say it but i wanted to see some more knock outs. i agree with the comments about Wandy. it was like he didnt care if he won. i was less than impressed with Aronas sportsmanship im glad shogun ran through him.

andrewleckie

deffinatly not as good as i thought itd b either....tanks match was so predictable and he hardly thru anything.Arona beat wanderlai but he didnt look himself he was really hangin back and pushing a slower pace and arona took advantage of that he didnt do to bad but shogun showed him who the real man was and got the tko to win the tourny he deserved it.

DirtyChuckRulz!

tank sucks. he gave him his back and laid on his fat ass and waited for the frank trigg choke to be applied.

[Danny]

*Cough* Pay up Brandon.

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angryjonny

Do you guys really think Wanderlei would throw a fight so Rua could win it? There is no doubt in my mind that Wand wouldn't do that. Especially to Arona who he does not like. Why would he just give it to him. That is totally taking away all credibility to Wand as a great fighter. So what if he has 2 losses in Pride now. He is still one of the greatest fighters in the world. Don't diss him because you lost a bunch of points on his fight.

AikaImmortal

exactly.....

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DirtyChuckRulz!

i dont thimk Wandy threw the fight at all. he just didnt seem his normal se4lf. when i say that i am giving arona credit for that. even though i hate to. i really dont like him. Wandy is still one of my favorites and an all time great.

Did you all see how happy he was for Shogun though. seems like a great guy.

angryjonny

I didn't get to see the fight but I was reading a "play by play" and the guys were saying that Arona actually did hurt Wandy with a wicked kick and he was delivering some solid shots. You need to realize that Silva is not invincible and the new young guys are eventually going to come in and "take over" just as Rua did. But you are right about one thing he really is a great guy. Like he has said himself "I'm always a good boy until I get in the ring."

Brandon_Dicken

Silva didn't do anything to Arona he didn't rush the guy once. normally silva goes rushing out the corner and basically runs over the guy the Shogun did. Silva DIDN'T DO ANYTHING he didn't punch him or nothing he threw the fight so Shogun could win. Why wouldn't he Shogun is like a son to him its like handing him down something important. Silva has made plenty of money and has nothing more to prove in Pride why would he give his top pupil a chance to shine. Just look normally when something is happening bad with a chute boxe fighter you hear the corner yelling and saying stuff to do but this time they were just very quite and said nothing.

I'm sure it was hard for Wanderlia to do it but it didn't cost him much and if it was Shogun and Wanderlia in the finals shogun would have got beat it would have been a stand up war and I don't think Silva would have wanted to hurt him did you see how happy he was after Shogun won he just looked so happy for him. He didn't look mad after the Arona fight either after the fight Arona yelled in his face and Silva didn't really gert mad back he just kinda looked at him like common man I gave you that fight no need to brag.

Look at Fedor his brother and even the guy who fought today they are all from The Red Devil camp the all basically fight the same throw punches the same have the same stance and everything but they are all at different skill levels. Same thing with Chute Boxe they all fight and move basically the same I've seen Silva press the fight just like Shogun did tonight before and Shogun is young and has alot of skill but can never really shine unless he's the champ so Silva gave him the belt. If he threw the fight Shogun it would have been obvious but he let Arona take him to the ground to and it would have been a perfect set up to give Arona the win but he didn't go 100% on the stand up. I couldn't put it together at first but after I saw Shogun run over Arona like that I'm like how come Silva didn't do the same the I basically saw the Silva Arona fight going the same way.

Some will say why would Silva do that well lets say Silva fought Shogun and won Shogun would feel bad like man I thought I was gonna be the best but then there's a rematch same thing happens now he feels worse and repeat this till he just breaks down. Silva would have been champ for a long time until he retires which would give Shogun the chance to get it like at 33 and he would have been an extra 10 years till he could be a champ at 205. Why should he have to wait that long Wanderlia may be mean in the ring but not in real life he gracefully stepped aside so his student could get his chance in the spotlight. He's is young and has such a high skill level to be that young he deserves a chance to be recognized and with Silva on top that can't happen. Its like letting a little kid win a game so they won't feel bad just look at old Silva fights then look at tonight and think about it it makes sense. How could Shogun beat the guy who has basically taught him those moves he can't th master has to stand aside. Silva had nothing to lose he's rich and will still be considered a contender I guarantee a rematch will be alot different. just look over everything I said and it'll just all fit together

As for Igor I don't know whats up with him he's been diffferent since his first knockout from CroCop

[Danny]

How can anybody say Silva threw a fight. That's complete bull crap dude. Arona beat him fair and square. I guess Silva isn't the messiah after all.

"Oh, he got beat! He must have threw the fight! Silva can't be beat legitly! Silva is god!"

Give me a damn break. They wanted a all Chute Box final so that the team would have the GP in the bag. If he threw it, then why did he train as hard as he did. I read so many stories and watched videos of him training 110%. If you say he threw the fight, is totally contridicting him as a fighter.

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Brandon_Dicken

Did you read my previous post look at his other fights what stand up power did he show in that match he threw maybe 10 punches the whole fight. Fedor looked like a champ tonight and fought like won. Look at Silva performance and honestly tell me he was 100% into winning that fight and went at him 100% and I'll show you a liar

angryjonny

Did you ever think that he respects Arona's ground game? There is a thing called being cautious, it is also smart. Running in their wildly would have not helped him beat Arona, it would have just helped Arona finish the fight because he is patient and a smart fighter as well. Arona was just the better fighter tonight. With the rivalry that is Chute and BTT there is no way in hell that Wanderlei would do something this disgraceful. This is so ridiculous that you have put that much thought into this. Get over it man. Everyone has to lose sometime. With Hunt it was the weight difference which shouldn't have mattered with the limited experience that he has, now he is throwing fights. C'mon man be realistic.

DirtyChuckRulz!

you mentioned silva being a contender. he still has the middleweight belt. you have to fight Wandy for three rounds if you wanna take that.he will fight arona again and he will avenge this legitament loss with a knockout.

diablerie27

i just started watching PRIDE during the first round of the tournanment that ended last night. i guess there are two belts right? a grand prix belt and a middleweight belt (or whatever weight class). i wasnt sure about that.

anyway, i am not going to say it was a conspiracy or that wandy threw the fight but he was not himself. maybe he just couldnt get it going.

i was glad that shogun won, i like his fights, and the fedor fight was a good fight even though it didnt have a KO or sub ending i enjoyed it.

overall the night was good but not great in my opinion.

SmashingMachine

LOL...that's pretty sad when the rear naked is now referred to as the "Frank Trigg choke."

SeikanJudanski

Damn Brandon, do you believe in commas? lol. man, your post is like 1000 mph..

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Brandon_Dicken

LOL! I basically just type and don't think of what I'm writing usually gotta go back because I skip words I'm just a run on sentence like this one

[Danny]

Also Brandon, if you think Silva threw the fight for Rua. Then, how did Silva know Shogun was going to advance? Shogun fought before him.

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SeikanJudanski

I guess those who think Silva threw the fight, would say, that Silva "knew" Shogun would beat Overeem. I can´t buy it, I can´t believe Silva would throw the fight. If he wanted Shogun to win,he would have let him win in a possible finale. I don´t think he threw the fight. Sometimes figthers, fight different, not the same. Look at Couture against Liddell II, Couture was fighting way different than usual, nobody would say he threw the fight.

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