angryjonny

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jens what happened??? Man I am going to go cry now. I was wrong on quite a few of my bets but like I said none of these fights could have been considered locks, so I'm not surprised one bit. Murilo and Sakurai are going to win it. I bet against Mach already, I'm not going to doubt him again. Go Busta!

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CyrusD

Holy crap!
Phil Baroni, Yves and Jen Pulver lost
Sucky Bushido, glad I didn't order it I woulda been pissed hahaha

mepersoner

Glad the only people I bet on were Henderson, Gomi, and Yves. They were the only ones I had any confidence in.

I'm digging the two KO's for Henderson. He's my boy for this tournament.

sitnspin

I earned points on Minowa, Mishima and Gomi, but lost on Edwards. Not bad, despite the fact that I actually WANTED most of the guys I bet against to win. Gotta bet with your brain and not your heart, though, right? People I've heard from who actually saw the event said it's maintained Bushido's high level of quality and action, and all in all it was a fantastic night of fights. Can't wait to check it out.

Weasel

My first MMA points bet and I blew it, LOL. Much respect to Hansen for beating Edwards. Split decision though, damn it!

Brandon_Dicken

All my bets were winners I got like 12000 on the way I knew Jens was gonna lose all he does is box and you can't do that in MMA same thing for Krazy Horse. I knew Minowa would win cause he not dumb he knew his strong point is the ground and he stuck with that the whole fight and took it to Phil. Gomi vs Kawajiri was easy too Kawajiri has no reach and looks for power shots and ground and pound though he is a good fighter he shouldn't have tried to brawl it out with Gomi who went toe to toe with some of the hardest hitters at 155

[Danny]

Henderson

Jens

The two guys I was pulling for the most. Did anybody else think that Jens was poked in the eye? He was messing with his eye and the referee kept yelling "Fight!" and didn't look at him. Also, I think Yves barley won that match against Hansen. But it was so close that I would have went either way.

Oh, and Gomi is a beast!

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DirtyChuckRulz!

im pullin for dan , i got mad respect for him.

angryjonny

Oh come on Brandon. You can't come out after the event is over and say you knew this and that. There was no telling what was going to happen with any of these guys, except Kotani. That wasn't a surprise to me. But that doesn't mean he isn't good.

angryjonny

This definitely sucks. When I read that he lost, I about broke down into tears. What's the deal with him man? That is like his weakness, Gomi acciedentally poked him and he went down it that fight too. That must be his cryptonite. Then again Gomi and Sakurai are bad MF's. I rooting for Mach, and Busta to win the finals.

Brandon_Dicken

If thats the case every fight that has ever took place is entirely luck and since thats not true than what would you say determines the fight I'll tell you what does skill and critical thinking Gomi vs Kawajiri easy to call kawajiri couldn't stand up with that Brazilian and stalled the whole fight and he favor the mount and goes for the G & P his is stance to straight it doesn't allow his punches travel far and he has short arms not as much power. Gomi had him in the stand up and G & P and overall ground work.

Minowa vs Baroni easy all you gotta do is look at any guy from hammer house on his back and you'll see thats there weakness their kicks suck too and they got too much muscle. Minowa took him down and kept him on his back and had plenty of time to work submissions and do a G & P

Bennette vs Mishima easy but I didn't know what Mishima was gonna do I saw him losing if they stood up and slugged it out but any fight with grappler vs striker the grappler wins 9 times out 10. He took Karzy horse down and worked submissions some what easy to call but I would have bet all my points on it.

Mach vs. Jens super easy but I had more faith in gomi and minowa and Mach is a tad cocky and it could have cost him if he hadn't takin jens lead leg from him. See jens boxes and in my opinion boxing has no place in MMA see boxing you use your hands and the power comes from the feet and body torque and the arms their stnace leaves them open to takedowns and kicks kick a boxer in the leg thats all you gotta do after that rush them cuase you took away one leg and they can't throw power anymore. Mach almost lost cause he was dropping his hands.

I don't see how you can't predict fights all you have to do is look at everyfighter to the fullest degree with no favorites and pick a winner
see a smart fighter will get in there and stick to a plan and think the whole fight a dumb will say its up to fate or something like that. Fighting is like a war careful planning and proper execution will get a win and one mistake can cost you everything. Some fights are to close to call and you don't have enough info and you should stay away from those Yves vs Hansen was hard for me cause I never seen hansen fight outside the one fight at bushido 8 I saw or another reason would be sucky odds. I never said Kotani sucked I said they did him bogus putting him in there with the best of the best

I play alot of war games command and conquer, star craft, rise of nations, civiliztion, stronghold, the romance series, and whole bunch of other crap. they simulate war and stadegy I been playing them since I was little General Chaos for sega got me all into that. Stadegy is very important and being able to analyze is also important there was this one guy who was commentating with bas and Maurro at this one fight and at the begiining he did a prediction he did a way better job than me and said if this happens it will go to decision and if it doesn't one guy will work his armbar till he gets it and it will most likely be in the second he went into why it would be the second I forgot what he said. next thing you know armbar in the second just like he said. Bas calls stuff to all the time

If skill doesn't determine the fight whats the point of training you won't know what will happen but you can do like him and say if this starts to happen then he'll do this and so on you get what I mean and I was talking the same way before the event

angryjonny

Whoa dude. You totally way overanalyzed that. I said you didn't "know" what was going to happen. See if you would have posted all this before the event that would be totally different. All you are doing is calling the fights as they happened. You can't come to my birthday party because you dissed Jens.

Brandon_Dicken

I bet on these guys cause i knew this and I posted comments like this before the fght in some other threads. Fine if I can't come to your party I'll keep my gift which was a G.I. Joe with Kung Fu action grip I bet you wish I came now!

[Danny]

Plus, Mach had 10 pounds on "Lil Evil".

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big bear

Jens lost because he fought a one dimensional fight just like Mach predicted. Jens used to use more knees and also some wrestling gnp. Also Mach has totally changed into a more aggressive fighter since training with Hume. Yves lost too because he seemed so focused on a striking match, that he got controlled by Joachim's grappling. I knew that Yves vs. Joachim was a toss up and I wasn't totally surprised when Mach beat Jens, but when Mach took it to Joachim I was blown away! Mach was the only suprise winner for me, I figured that Gomi/Hendo/Busta would make the finals.

angryjonny

That's not necessarily true because Jens said it himself "either knock me out or I'm gonna knock you out." So Mach didn't have to really predict anything. You are right though. He needs to mix up the wrestling and striking. He just wants to knock everyone out now. He can obviously grapple he has beaten some fighters who arguably are the best grapplers out there being BJ and Hallman. If anyone says anything about Hallman, this guy beat Hughes twice in under 37 seconds total. He is a phenomal submissions artist. I would like to see Jens get a few submissions or ground and pound to prove to the doubters like Brandon that he is one of the best in the world. Seriously though, if he just used his wrestling skills, he would be Dan Henderson only 30 lbs lighter, and I saw a poll on Sherdog where the votes were pretty close between Rich and Dan for the best 185er in the world.

big bear

I agree 100%. Henderson is awesome and Pulver used to be and can still be.

Brandon_Dicken

Pulver isn't bad I just didn't see him winning the tourney I heard Jens say I'm gonna get more well rounded but he never works it into his fighting. Jens is good but he has yet to have toppled top dogs in Proide like he did in UFC. Mach kept dropping his hands and I was sreaming at the tv "keep your guard up this is a former champ!" I think he's going through something personal that is affecting his game. Never bad mouthed the guy just said he wouldn't win the tourny. Hey did anyone see it as a surprise how fast Chonan went down I thought it was so funny cause Chonan is considered a bushido ace but he's not that good to me at all and I this has to be the only fighter who I think is overly overated.

dannyholdensilvafan

oh man what a line up sakurai,henderson, bustamante, gomi. next rounds gonna be special. sak vs gomi would be a real treat to watch.