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Bull · 03-03-2006, 06:51 AM

Name: Michael Gerard Tyson.
Nationality: US American.
Alias: Iron.
Weight: 215 lbs. - 239 lbs. , around 218 lbs. in his prime.
Date of Birth: 06/30/1966.
Status: Retired 2005.
Height: 5'10''.
Stance: Orthodox.
Speed: *9* Oustanding hand and general body movement speed.
Power: *10* One of the strongest, if not the strongest, boxers ever.
Footwork: *8* Not fleet footed really, but great footwork for his style. Very good balance and rhythm.
Chin: *10*
Defense: *9* Bob and Weave.
Offense: *10* Tremendous combinations, huge variety.
Ring Generalship: *10*
Heart: *9* Not focussed all the time, but never quit during his prime, tried as hard as he could.
Potential: *10* Had he taken every opponent seriously and retired in 1991, he maybe would have been remembered as the best ever.
Additional Information: Youngest Heavyweight Champion ever (20 years).
General: -*10*-

Ring_Raider_07 · 12-29-2006, 02:45 AM

I agree. Although Tyson's personal life is a little rocky, I think he's one of the best and most under rated boxers of all time.

Bull · 12-29-2006, 03:21 AM

Yes, that's definitely true. How often do you read "every man that stood up to Mike Tyson, beat him"?! It's rediculous.

MTKrav911 · 12-29-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bull

Yes, that's definitely true. How often do you read "every man that stood up to Mike Tyson, beat him"?! It's rediculous.

Absolutely. There was an HBO movie "Don King - Only In America" which I think summed it up well. Ving Rhames plays King and when talking about Tyson in the movie said it best:

"I struggled to make ends meet financially until......TYSON. This kid had every proportionality of a fighter you need. Fear, Power, Speed, and just raw aggression. I was making money and so was he. That is until Robin and her mother "Lady McBitch" as I call her came and messed things up with Iron Mike. They made that boy so crazy he started beatin her up, the cops up and later bit Evander's Ear off!"

I think Robin messed Tyson up. I think he really loved her and she took advantage of him and smeared his public image so much he just gave up. It's sad too because he couldve ended his career much better than he did. Still one of my favorite boxers of all time.

"Boxing is all fun and games until someone punches you in the mouth!" - Mike Tyson 1991 (After is upset defeat to the hands of Buster Douglas)

SmashingMachine · 01-06-2007, 10:47 PM

When are you guys going to give it up? Drop the 50,000 excuses already. Now it's Robin's fault for Tyson's crazy life? What about all the years before Robin? And the nearly 20 years after Robin? I bet she was responsible for this recent cocaine bust in Arizona too.

MTKrav911 · 01-08-2007, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashingMachine

When are you guys going to give it up? Drop the 50,000 excuses already. Now it's Robin's fault for Tyson's crazy life? What about all the years before Robin? And the nearly 20 years after Robin? I bet she was responsible for this recent cocaine bust in Arizona too.

Lets see, before Robin he was the most dominant HW most feared fighter in the world making 30 million a fight. After Robin? Broke, he stopped training, got jacked by freakin Buster Douglas....

Yep, it is her fault.

SmashingMachine · 01-08-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MTKrav911

Lets see, before Robin he was the most dominant HW most feared fighter in the world making 30 million a fight. After Robin? Broke, he stopped training, got jacked by freakin Buster Douglas....

Yep, it is her fault.

He was in/out of juvenile hall growing up. He was in trouble all of the time. He was a talented fighter who beat up on a bunch of bums or has beens. Anybody, who ever got Tyson a little out of his game plan frustrated him and made it a long night for him. Don't believe me? Go back and watch his fight with James "Quick" Tillis. Tillis had Tyson out of his game and took him to the cards. Tyson was frustrated and out of sync all night. By the way, who the heck is James Tillis? He was the same person Buster Douglas was before he took Mike out of his game plan...a nobody. The only difference with Douglas was that Douglas had more size and better tools to carry out the game plan. Oh, by the way, James Tillis was before Robin Givens too. Had Mike gotten in the ring with Lennox Lewis back in the 80's or early 90's, his rep as a bad ass would've been scrubbed out long ago. If you're looking at someone to blame for Mike's demise start by looking at Mike first. I mean, c'mon, get real. Next thing you know you guys will be accusing Evander Holyfield of putting BBQ sauce on his ear or something. Mike Tyson is responsible for Mike Tyson...PERIOD!

Crashsti · 01-09-2007, 09:59 AM

after watching that Tyson DVD that i bought its pretty obvious that Tyson and King collectively destroyed Iron Mike. Don King got involved, Mike fired all of his old trainers and cornermen, Mike moved out of the Catskills and began spending time in situations that he was unable to control himself in. Mike was too stupid to realize this and King was too greedy and twisted to do anything about it. Tyson got as far as he did because the guys in upstate New York did all the could to keep Tyson busy with boxing, its the reason Tyson was fighting so often, it was like once every six weeks at one point. basically Tyson was kept in a cage that he needed to be in if he was going to be successful as a boxer. King let him loose and the rest is history.

MTKrav911 · 01-09-2007, 12:03 PM

The downfall of every great man is an evil woman.

That's just my humble opinion.

It's easy to blame the fact that you grew up poorly in Juvie, etc. That DOES NOT pre-dispose you to making a guaranteed fact that you'll end up a loser. When other less than honest people take advantage of you when you're on top (both King and Givens) included. That is more likely the reason he went retarded on everyone.

He sure wasnt acting like that when Cus Damato was around now was he?

GSPALLTHEWAY · 01-09-2007, 02:03 PM

hmmm... those rankings are very good, were they yours bull? or from somewhere else??
id disagree with the chin being a 10.... and the speed being a 9.... id reverse those two numbers but other then that looks good!

theres always tyson haters, but skill wise, in his prime, had the most devastating punches and overall domination and intimidation ever

Bull · 01-09-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GSPalltheway

hmmm... those rankings are very good, were they yours bull? or from somewhere else??
id disagree with the chin being a 10.... and the speed being a 9.... id reverse those two numbers but other then that looks good!

theres always tyson haters, but skill wise, in his prime, had the most devastating punches and overall domination and intimidation ever

My personal ratings, so they are pretty much subjective.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 01-09-2007, 02:27 PM

oh ok cool, i think they are pretty right on... i always said tyson doesnt like to get hit... so id say 9 for the chin.. but hes my favorite fighter so the rest of the ratings are pretty high!

asronn · 01-09-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashingMachine

He was a talented fighter who beat up on a bunch of bums or has beens. Anybody, who ever got Tyson a little out of his game plan frustrated him and made it a long night for him. Don't believe me? Go back and watch his fight with James "Quick" Tillis. Tillis had Tyson out of his game and took him to the cards. Tyson was frustrated and out of sync all night. By the way, who the heck is James Tillis? He was the same person Buster Douglas was before he took Mike out of his game plan...a nobody. The only difference with Douglas was that Douglas had more size and better tools to carry out the game plan. Oh, by the way, James Tillis was before Robin Givens too. Had Mike gotten in the ring with Lennox Lewis back in the 80's or early 90's, his rep as a bad ass would've been scrubbed out long ago. If you're looking at someone to blame for Mike's demise start by looking at Mike first. I mean, c'mon, get real. Next thing you know you guys will be accusing Evander Holyfield of putting BBQ sauce on his ear or something. Mike Tyson is responsible for Mike Tyson...PERIOD!

you must be carzy!! Tyson had almost 60 fights and lost 5. Lennox would have lost to Tyson like everyone else pre-Robin Givens....Was he crazy??? Hell yeah but before Custamado died he was the most feared boxer on the planet....but what really killed Tyson is the same thing that destroyed the HW Division.....HW turned into 240lb giants. Mike was only about 5'11 and 220 at the most in his prime. So when he got out of jail he was past his prime and too small...but in his hey day........I feel so robbed becuase we didnt get to see Tyson vs Holyfield before he went to jail....What a fight it could have been

MTK · 01-10-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashingMachine

He was in/out of juvenile hall growing up. He was in trouble all of the time. He was a talented fighter who beat up on a bunch of bums or has beens. Anybody, who ever got Tyson a little out of his game plan frustrated him and made it a long night for him. Don't believe me? Go back and watch his fight with James "Quick" Tillis. Tillis had Tyson out of his game and took him to the cards. Tyson was frustrated and out of sync all night. By the way, who the heck is James Tillis? He was the same person Buster Douglas was before he took Mike out of his game plan...a nobody. The only difference with Douglas was that Douglas had more size and better tools to carry out the game plan. Oh, by the way, James Tillis was before Robin Givens too. Had Mike gotten in the ring with Lennox Lewis back in the 80's or early 90's, his rep as a bad ass would've been scrubbed out long ago. If you're looking at someone to blame for Mike's demise start by looking at Mike first. I mean, c'mon, get real. Next thing you know you guys will be accusing Evander Holyfield of putting BBQ sauce on his ear or something. Mike Tyson is responsible for Mike Tyson...PERIOD!

Remember that all there were, were has beens back when he was king. There was nobody of any consequence. I agree with you on a lot of points and believe he would have become unraveled at some point (even Teddy Atlas saw that coming and got out early), but to his credit, he fought all the champions at that time and unified the belts, typically destroying his opponent. He also beat Michael Spinks who was thought to be the guy who could beat him at the time knocking him out in 91 seconds. He also had some good offense and defense pre-Douglas. Once he got out of prison, he was a shadow of himself throwing one hail mary punch at a time with no defense. I'm surprised he was as popular for so long when he sucked for so long. I really liked him in the 80's, but time has made me and others like yourself realize one thing, he would of snapped with or without Robin and Don. I stopped kidding myself long ago thinking if they never entered his life, he would of been the greatest of all time. He didn't have the psyche for it.

SmashingMachine · 01-12-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by asronn

you must be carzy!! Tyson had almost 60 fights and lost 5. Lennox would have lost to Tyson like everyone else pre-Robin Givens....Was he crazy??? Hell yeah but before Custamado died he was the most feared boxer on the planet....but what really killed Tyson is the same thing that destroyed the HW Division.....HW turned into 240lb giants. Mike was only about 5'11 and 220 at the most in his prime. So when he got out of jail he was past his prime and too small...but in his hey day........I feel so robbed becuase we didnt get to see Tyson vs Holyfield before he went to jail....What a fight it could have been

Go watch Lennox Lewis Beyond the Glory...they tell how Lewis battered Tyson before either went pro...too. Take away Don King and Lennox Lewis would've stolen Tyson's glory...back in the 80's and early 90's. Yes, Tyson beat all the champs of that time, and even though they weren't great...he did beat them, but Lewis has beaten Holyfield, Bowe, Tyson, etc. Lennox Lewis beats him at any point in their pro careers.

SmashingMachine · 01-12-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MTKrav911

The downfall of every great man is an evil woman.

That's just my humble opinion.

It's easy to blame the fact that you grew up poorly in Juvie, etc. That DOES NOT pre-dispose you to making a guaranteed fact that you'll end up a loser. When other less than honest people take advantage of you when you're on top (both King and Givens) included. That is more likely the reason he went retarded on everyone.

He sure wasnt acting like that when Cus Damato was around now was he?

I realize it doesn't predispose you to being a loser, but you're trying to make it sound like his life has only been a circus side show since Robin Givens. She's not the problem...his life has been that way throughout. And, yes he was acting up when Cus D'Amato was around. Go Ask Teddy Atlas, who put a 38 revolver to Tyson's head after trying to force himself on Teddy's 12 year old daughter.

koconcept · 06-12-2007, 07:48 PM

man watch beyond the glory that dude was always messed up.

asronn · 06-12-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashingMachine

Go watch Lennox Lewis Beyond the Glory...they tell how Lewis battered Tyson before either went pro...too. Take away Don King and Lennox Lewis would've stolen Tyson's glory...back in the 80's and early 90's. Yes, Tyson beat all the champs of that time, and even though they weren't great...he did beat them, but Lewis has beaten Holyfield, Bowe, Tyson, etc. Lennox Lewis beats him at any point in their pro careers.

Im sure it was alot easier to beat Tyson while wearing headgear. You act like Lewis was undefeated or something. When did he beat Bowe? He lost to Holyfield and barely one the rematch. He lost Oliver McCall. Who in the world is Oliver McCall? Hasim Rahman? Come on. How you gonna penalize Tyson for beating guys past their prime and the applaud Lewis for doing it. You just dont like Tyson because he turned out to be a dang lunatic. If Rahman could KO Lewis Im sure Mike would have before he went to prison. If you want to talk about how bad he was after prison, hell Ill agree with you. Before he went to prison he had a hiccup against Buster Douglas that might not have been if the ref had done his job,(Buster laid on the canvas for about 14 seconds if I remember correctly) but none the less he got the W