 |  |
03-02-2008, 12:50 PM
|
#41 (permalink)
|
|
Contender
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 518
Points: 3,437
Bank: 0
Total Points: 3,437
Donate
|
If you are this dominant. Why would you move down weight to fight smaller guys?
Silva needs to move up and fight guys that could actually give him a problem. Not move down to a lower weight class that has only one guy that could pose a problem.
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 01:00 PM
|
#42 (permalink)
|
|
Contender
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 491
Points: 2,042
Bank: 0
Total Points: 2,042
Donate
|
I think Silva will out-class GSP, Silva has better submission skills and far better striking ability I think, GSP is a better wrestler but we've seen what Silva does when he gets put on his back (Travis Lutter)
__________________
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 01:05 PM
|
#43 (permalink)
|
|
Champion
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: PA
Posts: 1,157
Points: 10
Bank: 520,193
Total Points: 520,203
Donate
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by OneBigThrow
im not sure if i heard anderson correctly, but did he say that he only considered franklin as a true champion?
i didnt hear it well but thats what it sounded like he said. I wonder what i meant, because i know he respects the **** out of hendo
|
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's what Silva said. I was a bit confused because I'm not sure what he meant. I think he said Franklin is the true warrior.... maybe because he wasn't afraid to step back in there with him and get knocked out again, but I'm still not sure why he brought it up.
__________________
UFC 86 Picks:
Forrest Griffin vs. Quinton Jackson
Josh Koscheck vs. Chris Lytle
Tyson Griffin vs. Marcus Aurelio
Ricardo Almeida vs. Patrick Cote
Joe Stevenson vs. Gleison Tibau
Corey Hill vs. Justin Bucholz
Dennis Siver vs. Melvin Guillard
Cole Miller vs. Jorge Gurgel
Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Justin McCully
Prediction Contest Wins:
UFN 11
UFC 79
UFC 81
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 01:29 PM
|
#44 (permalink)
|
|
Champion
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Inside my skin
Posts: 1,370
Points: 11
Bank: 125,689
Total Points: 125,700
Donate
|
Congratulations to Anderson Silva. He is a Great Champion! At MW he is just a Nightmare matchup for almost everyone.
I do wonder if he won't eventually go up to 205 to see if he can become a Double Belt Holder. As I have stated before, I think 205 would be no problem for him. He will be nearly as strong as most (if not as strong), and will still have longer arms and legs than most. And I am quite sure he can strike hard enough to knock out most guys in that division if he lands cleanly.
__________________
Oi've got me emotions, ya know, but oi'm still a fighta. Ross Pointon
Last edited by fullonshred : 03-02-2008 at 02:55 PM.
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 02:11 PM
|
#45 (permalink)
|
|
Up and Coming
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 137
Points: 1,783
Bank: 0
Total Points: 1,783
Donate
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CounterPuncher
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's what Silva said. I was a bit confused because I'm not sure what he meant. I think he said Franklin is the true warrior.... maybe because he wasn't afraid to step back in there with him and get knocked out again, but I'm still not sure why he brought it up.
|
If I were to venture a guess I believe he meant that Franklin was the true champion in the sense that he held the UFC belt, not the Pride belt. And even though Silva holds both, he feels that the UFC belt is the legitimate belt (ie Franklin was the true champion)...Just my guess.
It's kinda like GSP saying that his interim belt is meaningless because he regards Serra as the true champion.
Just my guess.
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 02:18 PM
|
#46 (permalink)
|
|
Up and Coming
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 137
Points: 1,783
Bank: 0
Total Points: 1,783
Donate
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner
Damn. Anderlei is a bad dude.
That’s all there is to it.
Time to finally give the man his dues, haters?
GeorgeXVX?
|
The thing about Silva is that he finishes every opponent. None of his UFC fights were long drawn out decisions.
I also noticed how Silva can just turn it on like a lightswitch. In the first round he was on the ground and you could feel that he was telling himself enough was enough.
In the second round, I noticed his change. All of a sudden he started to bob his head a little more, crouch a little lower and was more aggressive. I remember telling myself , "oh sh1t, he's pissed"
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 02:19 PM
|
#47 (permalink)
|
|
Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 47
Points: 408
Bank: 0
Total Points: 408
Donate
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by NWCrazy
If I were to venture a guess I believe he meant that Franklin was the true champion in the sense that he held the UFC belt, not the Pride belt. And even though Silva holds both, he feels that the UFC belt is the legitimate belt (ie Franklin was the true champion)...Just my guess.
It's kinda like GSP saying that his interim belt is meaningless because he regards Serra as the true champion.
Just my guess.
|
I would agree with this interpretation. Silva views the UFC title as the legitimate Middleweight title.
I don't like the comments that he doesn't want to move up in weight. When you overpower and dominate a division what is the point in moving down a weight class. The problem when you get used to winning is you become more afraid of losing. He really needs to move up, and I have a feeling Dana will show him the money to do it as it would be a massive draw. Chuck vs Silva?? That would be a slugfest.
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 02:23 PM
|
#48 (permalink)
|
|
Champion
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,865
Points: 23,871
Bank: 0
Total Points: 23,871
Donate
|
well i think hed move down in weight only to fight GSP and matt hughes, without saying so
im sure hes not interested in anyone other than those two, remember matt hughes called him out (which want to see) and GSP is arguably a top p4per and Silva has the blessing of GSP being not only in the UFC, but in a weight class hes already fought in before and is familiar with
__________________
Call the tow truck cuz 50/50 gon' wreck it/Woody Woodpecker see my steerin' wheel and start peckin'
Commentator A: Im not gonna touch that with a 25 foot pole!
Commentator B:O I would like to touch it with a 25 cm pole!!!
"How the hell ima step into the cage with vaseline on my arms?"
I came out of the jungle to fight so I could get your white girls
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 02:54 PM
|
#49 (permalink)
|
|
Champion
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,691
Points: 111
Bank: 22,183
Total Points: 22,293
Donate
|
Silva is very strong. Congratz on him and congratz to Hendo, to drop to have this fight.
But for now, I don't see someone win over Silva. Maybe GSP but not now.
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 02:54 PM
|
#50 (permalink)
|
|
Champion
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Inside my skin
Posts: 1,370
Points: 11
Bank: 125,689
Total Points: 125,700
Donate
|
Silva would destroy Matt Hughes.
__________________
Oi've got me emotions, ya know, but oi'm still a fighta. Ross Pointon
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 03:33 PM
|
#51 (permalink)
|
|
Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 47
Points: 408
Bank: 0
Total Points: 408
Donate
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by fullonshred
Silva would destroy Matt Hughes.
|
I agree. Matt Hughes can't handle GSP's standup, he doesn't have a chance with Anderson Silva's. Actually now having said that, I'd love to see it. Probably would be a career ender for Matt Hughes.
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 03:38 PM
|
#52 (permalink)
|
|
Mayhem Monkey
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Shreveport, LA
Posts: 1,128
Points: 5
Bank: 404,834
Total Points: 404,839
Donate
|
I really thought Hendo could win by doing what he did in the 1st round for 5 rounds. Hopefully we can see a rematch down the road.
__________________
"Georges is a likeable guy. He's definitely a very good poster boy. If you look at him, he's got the looks. Whatever man. I don't know. The abs. What are people looking at? They like him. He's like a real life Van Damme. And then they got me in there, who's the real life Joe Pesci or something." - Matt Serra.
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 04:02 PM
|
#53 (permalink)
|
|
Up and Coming
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: OKC
Posts: 130
Points: 2,598
Bank: 3,552
Total Points: 6,149
Donate
|
If it wasn't official before, it is now:
SILVA IS MMA GOD!
As for Silva moving down...does he REALLY have much weight available to lose?
Love to see him move up, though.
__________________
Lyoto Machida: 13-0
Forrest Griffin: 15-4
Anderson Silva: 20-4
Georges St. Pierre: 16-2
If my opponent does not move, I do not move.
If my opponent moves, I move faster.
-Tai Chi Chuan principle
Be swift as wind, silent as a forest, attack as fiercely as fire, be unmovable as a mountain.
風林火山 Fūrinkazan, Sun Tzu, The Art of War
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 04:45 PM
|
#54 (permalink)
|
|
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: fort worth texas
Posts: 482
Points: 7,208
Bank: 1,884
Total Points: 9,091
Donate
|
I called it 2nd round tko, I never thought he would submit him. I have to admit I was worried when Hendo was hammerfisting in the first.
Good fights though, until the cops came, I think we woke up the entire block.fuk-m
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 04:46 PM
|
#55 (permalink)
|
|
Shogun Fanboy
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 973
Points: 7
Bank: 516,801
Total Points: 516,808
Donate
|
So what's next?
Wanderlei Silva moving down to 185 could present a very interesting fight.
Okami was A. Silva's last "loss."
Sign Lindland or Kang?
Get Filho to come over from WEC?
The UFC is really starting to run out of options at MW at this point. Henderson was the biggest threat to the belt (still may be if he comes back for a rematch). Nobody wants to see Franklin v. Silva 3. I guess Lutter vs. Silva 2 could be in the works, as could Marquardt v. Silva 2. I don't see any of those fights ending up any different than the previous encounters.
I guess eventually somebody will figure out the gameplan to beat Silva (it alwasy happens eventually) but right now he's cleaned out that division pretty handily.
__________________
Brute Force: The approach of kings and the king of approaches.
1. Shogun
2. GSP
3. Rich Franklin
4. Fedor
5. Denis Kang
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 05:19 PM
|
#56 (permalink)
|
|
Top Ranked
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 666
Points: 3,187
Bank: 0
Total Points: 3,187
Donate
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by HaVoK
I really thought Hendo could win by doing what he did in the 1st round for 5 rounds. Hopefully we can see a rematch down the road.
|
Yea I think Hendo could still threaten Silva sticking to a greco roman game plan. He is tough as nails.
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 05:27 PM
|
#57 (permalink)
|
|
Professional
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 261
Points: 8,062
Bank: 0
Total Points: 8,062
Donate
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmag
Yea I think Hendo could still threaten Silva sticking to a greco roman game plan. He is tough as nails.
|
I actually dont agree with that. I think the only reason that Hendo was able to keep Anderson controlled in the first was because of the weird position he gained with the takedown. Anderson wasnt able to scramble at all because the only position he could have ended up in is on his stomach with Henderson in back control.
I picked anderson to win via sub myself. However, I didnt expect him to do as good on the feet as he actually did in the second round. I figured that Dan would take him down and Anderson would eventually sub him.
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 06:29 PM
|
#58 (permalink)
|
|
Top Ranked
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 730
Points: 1,284
Bank: 0
Total Points: 1,284
Donate
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurtis636
So what's next?
Wanderlei Silva moving down to 185 could present a very interesting fight.
Okami was A. Silva's last "loss."
Sign Lindland or Kang?
Get Filho to come over from WEC?
The UFC is really starting to run out of options at MW at this point. Henderson was the biggest threat to the belt (still may be if he comes back for a rematch). Nobody wants to see Franklin v. Silva 3. I guess Lutter vs. Silva 2 could be in the works, as could Marquardt v. Silva 2. I don't see any of those fights ending up any different than the previous encounters.
I guess eventually somebody will figure out the gameplan to beat Silva (it alwasy happens eventually) but right now he's cleaned out that division pretty handily.
|
i dont think any of those are real options. anderson and wanderlei are friends and i dont think theyd want to fight each other. i doubt the ufc would sign lindland, kang or fliho. the winner or franklin v lutter could be in line for a rematch. even though rich is my favourite fighter im not sure i want him to fight anderson again, but i dont want him to lose to lutter either. marquardt is a possibility but i dont think anyone wants to see that.
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 06:32 PM
|
#59 (permalink)
|
|
Champion
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,092
Points: 91
Bank: 1,890,133
Total Points: 1,890,224
Donate
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by fullonshred
Silva would destroy Matt Hughes.
|
Even though Matt expressed interest in fighting him - that was over a year ago. Now there's no way that fight will ever happen.
With respect to Anderson's opponents, it seems like only GSP or BJ Penn would be game.
|
|
|
03-02-2008, 07:15 PM
|
#60 (permalink)
|
|
Champion
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,691
Points: 111
Bank: 22,183
Total Points: 22,293
Donate
|
He only need to move to lhw
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
Points Per Thread View: 1
Points Per Thread: 15
Points Per Reply: 5
|
|
| | | |