Rich Franklin vs Travis Lutter - Page 4 - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1

WarDawg · 04-21-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by earvinarp

Man, there's no one in FF with Lutter's skills. Does that mean that people shouldn't voice their opinions? I did not understand the point of your question. Sorry about the KG bs.

The view I have of it is Lutter showed up to fight. He was in a position that he nearly could/ should have ended it. He did not pull a Kalib Starnes. He didn't run. Lutter showed up. Why he gassed so bad ??? Maybe his cardio sucks .. His training poor.. ??? But gassing does happen. Look at how many gassed out at Fight night. Alot of folks. Yeah they was at mile high .But some folks still didn't gas... Lutter showed up to fight and TRIED to win. Starnes did not. Theres a difference. Damn, mom just busted me . Got to go....

WarDawg

earvinarp · 04-21-2008, 04:30 PM

Lutter is a perfect example of someone with all the talent and little drive. If he added some serious cardio to his game he would be at the level of someone like Lindland.

KRONOS · 04-21-2008, 09:12 PM

I'm glad Rich won, but I was not impressed. Rich needs to work on his cardio, he looked pretty tired fighting Lutter.

FightFan76 · 04-21-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by theEmpiric

I agree. A good swift kick to the head would make it so they stopped prolonging fights by going to the ground when they are too tired to do anything else.

IM SORRY BUT YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL FIGHTER LUTTER, YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO OTHER THAN TRAIN FOR A FIGHT, GASSING AFTER 3 MINUTES IS OUT OF THE QUESTION.

Sorry, but Lutter and Starnes need not ever show their face in any MMA competition ever again as far as I am concerned.

Well atleast Lutter is right about 1 thing; he is NEVER gonna lose to Silva again b/c there is never gonna be another fight w/ Silva after that performance.....

FightFan76 · 04-21-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KRONOS

I'm glad Rich won, but I was not impressed. Rich needs to work on his cardio, he looked pretty tired fighting Lutter.

Rich needs to work on his cardio?.....LOL

Cardio is not and has never been an issue for Rich.....

Mickey Finn · 04-22-2008, 02:52 AM

i dont think lutter really gassed that badly. it was a tough fight and rich rocked him a couple of times. that can really take it out of you

and ive been saying for ever that franklins ground game is underrated. hes a bjj brown belt and that counter was amazing

KRONOS · 04-22-2008, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FightFan76

Rich needs to work on his cardio?.....LOL

Cardio is not and has never been an issue for Rich.....

So are you telling me Rich himself wasn't gassed during the final minutes of the fight?

Crazy · 04-22-2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KRONOS

So are you telling me Rich himself wasn't gassed during the final minutes of the fight?

It`s not like they where fighting in a slow pace you know.
They where going max tempo the whole fight and Franklin threw a lot of KO punches. He looked tired after the match but what did you expect?
I belive many people here don`t relize how tough it is to do a 5 min round of fighting.

KRONOS · 04-22-2008, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazy

It`s not like they where fighting in a slow pace you know.
They where going max tempo the whole fight and Franklin threw a lot of KO punches. He looked tired after the match but what did you expect?
I belive many people here don`t relize how tough it is to do a 5 min round of fighting.

I hear what you are saying, but I think that before he fought Anderson Sylva Rich was in much better shape and his cardio was better. All I am just saying that Rich has looked better in other fights.

FightFan76 · 04-22-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KRONOS

I hear what you are saying, but I think that before he fought Anderson Sylva Rich was in much better shape and his cardio was better. All I am just saying that Rich has looked better in other fights.

I see your point, but the up-down pace of this fight would take a toll on any fighter regardless of how good their cardio is w/ the exception of maybe Roger Hureta, LOL. So considering I believe Rich's cardio was good as always; his other fights just were not this fast paced IMO.....

OneBigThrow · 04-22-2008, 11:39 AM

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and ive been saying for ever that franklins ground game is underrated. hes a bjj brown belt and that counter was amazing

ive always said the same thing, people think his ground game his just muscling out....it never has been he uses solid technique and his gameplan is sweeps and escapes rather than playing guard

lol many people have even said they have never seen franklin on the ground until this fight...i think hes been on the ground every fight except his first with Silva...he just escapes

FightFan76 · 04-22-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OneBigThrow

ive always said the same thing, people think his ground game his just muscling out....it never has been he uses solid technique and his gameplan is sweeps and escapes rather than playing guard

lol many people have even said they have never seen franklin on the ground until this fight...i think hes been on the ground every fight except his first with Silva...he just escapes

I meant extensively against someone who has the ability to hold him there ike Lutter.....