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Old 05-16-2007, 02:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I got to say i have always been a Hughes fan but Serra makes me feel like there is a place for the midgets in UFC i am also 5'6" and Serra winning gives me hope lol
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:39 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I don't even think being 5'6 is much of a disadvantage. His low center of gravity makes up for it in a lot of grappling scenarios (For instance: watch how fast Serra can stand up when he's on the ground), and a better boxer is a better boxer and will beat an inferior boxer despite slight reach advantages. I know being shorter is a disadvantage but some people talk like he doesn't have a chance at WW because of it. I think Serra talks most about his height disadvantage just to get his opponents believing they have some sort of advantage. He wants to be underestimated.

Anyway, back on topic: I would hate to speak out against Matt Serra. He is a smooth talker and has a knack for stating the truth in a comical manner. He's going to be out talking everybody at 170, especially seeing as GSP isn't exactly Mr. Smooth when you hand him a microphone or put a camera in his face.

I never trusted GSP anyway. He's too nice for this world. Anybody that nice is hiding something, but then again I'm the conspiring sort, so don't take anything I say too seriously.
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:50 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I will bet money Serra will win, the guy has heart and hes an awesome all round fighter, I said Serra would beat GSP in their first fight also. GSP should beat Serra 9/10 times, what world are you living in... Serra dominated GSP for 3 straight minutes and TKOed him.

You say Serra got his chance from a tv show, he may well of done that but in that show he had to prove himself and fight, which he did, just like I bet 1 of the main reasons GSP got into the UFC was because he's Canadian so they can bring in more fans.
You are so wrong here I don't even know where to begin. How can you say Serra "dominated" GSP in that fight. It was barely even a fight and if you call one punch domination then you are mistaken.

Also, to say that they brought GSP to the UFC just because he is Canadian is preposterous and ignorant. Did you see any of his fights in UCC or TKO? Better yet did you see any of his fights period before the Serra fight?

It's funny how every fighter talks smack and as soon as GSP does once people are all over him like a dirty shirt.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:00 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You are so wrong here I don't even know where to begin. How can you say Serra "dominated" GSP in that fight. It was barely even a fight and if you call one punch domination then you are mistaken.

Also, to say that they brought GSP to the UFC just because he is Canadian is preposterous and ignorant. Did you see any of his fights in UCC or TKO? Better yet did you see any of his fights period before the Serra fight?

It's funny how every fighter talks smack and as soon as GSP does once people are all over him like a dirty shirt.
1 punch....bit more than 1 punch wasnt it. What would you call it may I ask? A lucky punch? GSP got maybe 1 clean punch in, in 3minutes, whilst Serra got in a fair few leg kicks that connected and a fair few combos to the body that connected, he was also moving forward and pushing the action. So what would you call it?

Read what I wrote properly before writing please. I said 1 (1 of many get it) of the main reasons he is in the UFC is that he is Canadian, I bet Dana White would say the same thing, the UFC wants to get as big as possible so they need fighters from everywhere.

Not all fighters talk smack, Serra doesnt talk much smack unless some1 says stuff about him, same with Liddell and Couture doesnt really bad mouth anyone, neither does Arlovski really or Anderson Silva.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:02 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Agreed, also you can add Joe Stevenson who's like what 5'2?


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Old 05-16-2007, 03:07 PM   #26 (permalink)
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You are so wrong here I don't even know where to begin. How can you say Serra "dominated" GSP in that fight. It was barely even a fight and if you call one punch domination then you are mistaken.

Also, to say that they brought GSP to the UFC just because he is Canadian is preposterous and ignorant. Did you see any of his fights in UCC or TKO? Better yet did you see any of his fights period before the Serra fight?

It's funny how every fighter talks smack and as soon as GSP does once people are all over him like a dirty shirt.
For the most part, I agree. The idea that GSP got into the UFC because he's a Canadian is preposterous.

But how is what GSP said "talking smack"? He was making whiny excuses. GSP has long been put on a pedestal by his fans, especially Canadians for obvious reasons, that here is this great fighter who shows the utmost respect for his opponents. Now these comments have shown a chink in the armor of GSP's class. I'm generally a bigger fan of GSP's than Serra's, but the facts are that GSP made some whiny excuses and should be called on it the same way every one got all over Tim Sylvia's case when he made the excuses after the Couture fight.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:08 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Matt Serra defeated GSP "fairly squarly" as GSP likes to say. Serra trained for and worked hard for this fight. He did DOMINATE the fight. By that, I mean that he controlled and was in the superior situation for the three minutes or so that led to the KO. It was not luck or chance or any of that BS.

Now, we are seeing another side of GSP. We saw it before, but we laughed it off. Why? Because he did it to Matt Hughes. "I was not impressed with your performance." Remember that sentence from GSP. Now, we get this avalanche of BS form him after a loss? Did Matt Hughes do THAT? Did Frank Trigg? I think that people might need to rething GSP.

Don't get me wrong. I am a GSP fan. But, he crossed the line. Serra had EVERY right to say what he said. And, "Frenchy" is hardly an insult. I am French-Canadian on my mother's side. I have a large family in Montreal. I do not take offense to being called "Frenchy" by anybody. Now, call me a "Frog" and that might upset me on some level.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:13 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Don't get me wrong. I am a GSP fan.

when he wins...


id like to see GSPs quotes about this.... sometimes its tough to blindly believe what you read on FF... i hate excuses and i dont back gsp if he is making them... serra had a great KO and is now champ.. like someone said before that it was an even, feeling one another out type of fight...
anyways theres plenty of room for rematches all around
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Whats with GSP being such a douche? Taking a page out of Hughes book. GSP had no one but himself to blame for his loss, so stop acting like a little bitch. Serra was justified in everything he said. Bring back the old GSP!
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:15 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Don't get me wrong. I am a GSP fan.

when he wins...


id like to see GSPs quotes about this.... sometimes its tough to blindly believe what you read on FF... i hate excuses and i dont back gsp if he is making them... serra had a great KO and is now champ.. like someone said before that it was an even, feeling one another out type of fight...
anyways theres plenty of room for rematches all around
You don't have to read them. You can listen to them in his own words here.
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Don't get me wrong. I am a GSP fan.

when he wins...


id like to see GSPs quotes about this.... sometimes its tough to blindly believe what you read on FF... i hate excuses and i dont back gsp if he is making them... serra had a great KO and is now champ.. like someone said before that it was an even, feeling one another out type of fight...
anyways theres plenty of room for rematches all around
That is BS. I never stopped liking him when he lost to Hughes the first time that they fought. I still like GSP now after his loss to Serra. So, your comment is pure, 100% bull****.

What GSP said, if he did, indeed, say it, was wrong. Even if it were true, it made him look bad. A weakness in his classy armor, I think somebody said. It was not as if we had not seen that aspect before. His comment to Hughes showed this same issue.

Does this mean that I now hate GSP as much as you frothing at the mouth Hughes-haters hate Hughes? Hardly. I love GSP. He's a hometown Montreal boy. I have family there, and we all love this guy. But, I call it like I see it. GSP offended Serra. And, Serra was right about what he said in his response.
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That is BS. I never stopped liking him when he lost to Hughes the first time that they fought. I still like GSP now after his loss to Serra. So, your comment is pure, 100% bull****.

What GSP said, if he did, indeed, say it, was wrong. Even if it were true, it made him look bad. A weakness in his classy armor, I think somebody said. It was not as if we had not seen that aspect before. His comment to Hughes showed this same issue.

Does this mean that I now hate GSP as much as you frothing at the mouth Hughes-haters hate Hughes? Hardly. I love GSP. He's a hometown Montreal boy. I have family there, and we all love this guy. But, I call it like I see it. GSP offended Serra. And, Serra was right about what he said in his response.
IF he said it...
gsp is sometimes very hard to understand.. sometimes he doesnt talk publically enough, and sometimes serra talks too much IMO
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:47 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I love these threads, when people all of the sudden try to make excuses for fighters. In a way, itīs justified, because we have all seen GSP in MUCH better shape and giving a MUCH better performance. However, Serra beat GSP about as fair and square. Nobody can take that away from Matt. I hear things like GSP over Serra 9 out of 10 times. Well, we canīt know until we actually see, can we?

Both are great fighters. Matt was probably just mad, because he didnīt feel like he recieved the respect that he deserved for that win, and GSP is making excuses like many have done before him, and will do afterwards, but honestly those comments werenīt THHAATT bad. Things can be blown out of proportion, specially since some dude wrote an article and didnīt even bother telling us exactly WHAT he told Matt about GSPīs comments. He might have manipulated the sitation as bit, to get an emotional response.

So letīs see a rematch.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:52 PM   #34 (permalink)
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gsp is sometimes very hard to understand.. sometimes he doesnt talk publically enough, and sometimes serra talks too much IMO
He did say it. His English was fairly clear. Click that link and listen for yourself. I think that GSP might have thought that a wide audince would not hear his comments since it was on a Toronto radio station. But, it will spread quickly on the Internet.

Serra is definitly a big talker. He talks loud and draws a crowd. He has his own personality down well enough that he can create Serra-isms on the spot. You get the real Serra, I believe. I doubt that he would ever script a response. He would just say it.
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gsp is sometimes very hard to understand.. sometimes he doesnt talk publically enough, and sometimes serra talks too much IMO
I posted the audio link. Its not hard to understand at all. GSP clearly says he would have pulled out of the fight if it had been Hughes instead of Serra. He says he wasn't near 100% with his knee and that he only trained hard for about 2 weeks for Serra. No misunderstandings there.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:56 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Maybe im just biased cus im a huge GSP fan. But it really didnt sound that bad. It sounded to me like GSP took Sera to lightly. Which is what i think he meant by "i wouldnt have taken the fight if it was against hughes". He never claimed that sera was a chump or an easy win for him. He basically said at the time he thought that was so , and he learned a huge life lesson from it. There were no comments from GSP about how he feels about Sera now. Just that at the time everyone around him was telling him he was superman , so he though Sera would be a cakewalk and he shouldnt have to train very hard for it. Bad move obviously , and he knows it.
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lol oh boy.... tempers flare...
between serra, hughes and GSP now, they all hate each other... SOOOOOOOO many fights at 170 to see... nevermind kos, diego, or even BJ coming up later on
I though BJ was gonna be 155? not 170. maybe im wrong?

I never though GSP would be this was wow. It really makes me mad. I guess someone's true character comes out when they fight.
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Maybe im just biased cus im a huge GSP fan. But it really didnt sound that bad. It sounded to me like GSP took Sera to lightly. Which is what i think he meant by "i wouldnt have taken the fight if it was against hughes". He never claimed that sera was a chump or an easy win for him. He basically said at the time he thought that was so , and he learned a huge life lesson from it. There were no comments from GSP about how he feels about Sera now. Just that at the time everyone around him was telling him he was superman , so he though Sera would be a cakewalk and he shouldnt have to train very hard for it. Bad move obviously , and he knows it.
If you take some one lightly then you obviously dont rexpect them like you should. I have wrestled for years and i know its different but when i take some one lightly it ends up closer than what it should be or as a loss and i never take anyone lightly that as abilty that i respect. So taking someone lightly is disrespect for their talent. So to me GSP saying these things is disrespect.
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:19 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Man i so made a post on GSP's interview that everyone ignored. The link in that thread cuts directly to the GSP interview.

http://www.fightforum.com/ufc/10322-...interview.html

EDIT: The link is pretty far down the page now, it's been a while sinse the interview.


He even says something to the affect of "Come on, it's Matt Serra."

I was taken aback by his comments. Not GSP-like at all. Serra's retaliation is totally justified, although the Frenchy comment wasn't necessary. But if that's the worst thing Matt Serra is saying to you after you badmouth him, he obviously likes and respects you. I'm upset to see people taking GSP's side here. He is without a doubt wrong in this situation..
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His exact words ..... "I told my self , i was like , oh its matt sera i can beat this guy easily , so i took it. I made the mistake i learned a very big life lesson." To me it sounds like he just underestimated him and he wont be doing that again.
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