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Old 05-16-2007, 04:38 PM   #41 (permalink)
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He did underestimate him. But the problem is he's making excuses about it now, when before he was saying that this is the hardest he's trained, and Matt Serra is very dangerous, ect. ect.. It is two-faced, something i wouldn't expect from GSP even on his worst days, which he seems to be having.
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:42 PM   #42 (permalink)
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its hard for me to believe that gsp said that!! Im starting to like serra more and more now!
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:43 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I don't take sides on this, its not right for GSP to make those comments, but its strange into why he would do it anyway. I would personally love like a round-robin tournament thing with Hughes Serra and GSP to sort it all out, they all hate each other, and they are all as bad as each other with talking smack either to hype fights or mind-games, so lets just see that happen.
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:43 PM   #44 (permalink)
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You ever wonder if the pressure of losing your belt is enough to drive somebody insane? There's a strange look in Couture's eyes. I wonder how many times he's watched that replay where he slipped against Liddell, sitting alone in the dark at 3am and grinding his teeth...
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:53 PM   #45 (permalink)
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You ever wonder if the pressure of losing your belt is enough to drive somebody insane? There's a strange look in Couture's eyes. I wonder how many times he's watched that replay where he slipped against Liddell, sitting alone in the dark at 3am and grinding his teeth...
Oh yeah definately, with how long GSP had to wait for the 2nd shot and the men he had to go through including Trigg, Sherk and BJ Penn, who aren't all easy opponents obviously, then beats Hughes for the title to then lose to someone who would be rated at the bottom of all the fighters mentioned in my post by a lot of people, it would eat you up, still it did seem unlike GSP and i am shocked, i haven't lost respect for him though at all
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:05 PM   #46 (permalink)
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He did underestimate him. But the problem is he's making excuses about it now, when before he was saying that this is the hardest he's trained, and Matt Serra is very dangerous, ect. ect.. It is two-faced, something i wouldn't expect from GSP even on his worst days, which he seems to be having.
I agree that it is two-faced of him to make these comments now. But just dont think what was said was as bad as some people are making it out to be.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:14 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I think that every time I hear GSP speak. You know he's always holding back.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:17 PM   #48 (permalink)
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His comments, though uncalled for, are being blown out of porportion. He pretty much just said he underestimated serra. If you just beat the best welterweight in ufc history with a KO im sure its a pretty big boost of confidence. He thought he would run through serra. He didnt, he admitted to his mistake. Im sure this happens often. THe only real reason anyones making a big deal out of it is because GSP doesnt usually talk down on anyone. He needs to do this more often. Its too hard to be a nice guy all the time, when your scrutinized for making mild comments like this one. Especially if you beat peoples ass for a living.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:21 PM   #49 (permalink)
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serra does it again... haha great post
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His comments, though uncalled for, are being blown out of porportion. He pretty much just said he underestimated serra. If you just beat the best welterweight in ufc history with a KO im sure its a pretty big boost of confidence. He thought he would run through serra. He didnt, he admitted to his mistake. Im sure this happens often. THe only real reason anyones making a big deal out of it is because GSP doesnt usually talk down on anyone. He needs to do this more often. Its too hard to be a nice guy all the time, when your scrutinized for making mild comments like this one. Especially if you beat peoples ass for a living.
OR he could not make these kind of statements at all and win the respect of millions of people around the world. His choice i guess.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:31 PM   #51 (permalink)
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its not bad at all because its not tim sylvia that said it


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Old 05-16-2007, 05:40 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I agree that it is two-faced of him to make these comments now. But just dont think what was said was as bad as some people are making it out to be.
You're right, it's not that bad. Just really unexpected coming from GSP.


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THe only real reason anyones making a big deal out of it is because GSP doesnt usually talk down on anyone. He needs to do this more often. Its too hard to be a nice guy all the time, when your scrutinized for making mild comments like this one. Especially if you beat peoples ass for a living.
I disagree. Anyone who completely contradicts themselves is going to take a lot of crap for it. If it were Hughes or Sylvia they would be taking WAY more than GSP is. A decent chunk of GSP's fan base are so loyal to him because he has always been so respectful and respectable. If he starts acting like this more often he is going to lose that. People aren't going to hate him, but he will not retain the loyalty he has now. No one expects him to be nice all the time. Which is why no one really cared about his "I am not impressed by your performance" statement. If anything it's become a joke. But this goes beyond not being nice. He compromised his integrity.
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Sorry, I'm not following this here. The cultural differences?

I don't think Matt Serra went out of his way to contact a media outlet to vent his frustrations. Someone asked him for a comment, and he responded honestly.

And sorry, who deserves the benefit of the doubt?
I am talking between Vitor and Georges, not Matt and Georges.
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I think it was a pretty huge knife GSP placed in Serra's back, but i mean Serra is going around calling Matt Hughes A dick all the time. i think thats a low blow too, i dont think anyone knows matt personally well enough to base their opinion on that. But everyone knows his past and his record well enough to use that. I just wish it could be fighters talking all this **** before they leave the cage.
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I think it was a pretty huge knife GSP placed in Serra's back, but i mean Serra is going around calling Matt Hughes A dick all the time. i think thats a low blow too, i dont think anyone knows matt personally well enough to base their opinion on that. But everyone knows his past and his record well enough to use that. I just wish it could be fighters talking all this **** before they leave the cage.
Its a knife in serras back because of how highly serra used to speak of GSP. he was saying how gsp is the future of the WW devision etc.
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Its too hard to be a nice guy all the time, when your scrutinized for making mild comments like this one. Especially if you beat peoples ass for a living.
Its not too hard to play the hero everytime, Randy Couture does not talk **** about anyone and has consistantly respectful to every fighter throughout his career. He has been in the media much longer than GSP and keeping up his nice streak. He has also never made an excuse for a loss even though he has been poked in the eye several times and slipped, he just refers to them as losses and thats how its should be. i think its a scape goat to be the bad guy, anyone can just talk some **** and blame a loss on something.
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Don't get me wrong. I am a GSP fan. But, he crossed the line. Serra had EVERY right to say what he said. And, "Frenchy" is hardly an insult. I am French-Canadian on my mother's side. I have a large family in Montreal. I do not take offense to being called "Frenchy" by anybody. Now, call me a "Frog" and that might upset me on some level.
The Frenchy is bad not for the "Frenchy" itself but for the fact that Serra feels the urge to differentiate and ridicule an opponent based on nationality or ethnicity. The fact that the word is harmless is irrelevant. Serra is a righteous man and he probably regrets saying something that stupid.
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I think it was a pretty huge knife GSP placed in Serra's back, but i mean Serra is going around calling Matt Hughes A dick all the time. i think thats a low blow too, i dont think anyone knows matt personally well enough to base their opinion on that. But everyone knows his past and his record well enough to use that. I just wish it could be fighters talking all this **** before they leave the cage.
Matt Serra was on TUF4 with Matt Hughes and that seemed to be where Serra decided that Hughes was a "dick" LOL. I love Matt Hughes as much as Matt Serra, but I still think that Serra's attitude towards Hughes has been very hilarious.

For some reason, it upset me much more that GSP said "I am not impressed with your performance" to Hughes IN THE OCTAGON after a match with BJ Penn. I like GSP and thought he did great versus Penn, but he did NOT do as well as Hughes. Hughes finished Penn (regardless of injuries or whatever other influences were involved).

All this means is that GSP is HUMAN. The guy is not the MMA God that many (including me at times) MMA fans believed. The guy actually has the ability to get mad. He can feel emotionally compelled to make excuses for a fight that almost EVERYBODY (including GSP) thought that GSP ought to win. Matt Hughes is also Human. The guy ain't perfect. He might be a "dick" if you agree with Matt Serra.

GSP and Hughes are both showing a side that some fans find unappealing. It may be that they are just being themselves. We don't see them 24/7 and can only judge by clips on TV and interviewes.
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Its not too hard to play the hero everytime, Randy Couture does not talk **** about anyone and has consistantly respectful to every fighter throughout his career. He has been in the media much longer than GSP and keeping up his nice streak. He has also never made an excuse for a loss even though he has been poked in the eye several times and slipped, he just refers to them as losses and thats how its should be. i think its a scape goat to be the bad guy, anyone can just talk some **** and blame a loss on something.
Apparently it is hard considering there are very few people in the sport like Couture.
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I know that the Hughes/serra started on tuf4 but I still think people should give hughes a little respect (fighting wise).

Osnodon i know not everyone is like Couture, my point is just that people always say "you cant always be nice" " so and so is too old" or all these other things and Randy Couture is proof that all these things can be accomplished. Nobody's perfect at all and just because they are famous doesnt mean they have to be, Im just saying to khodey's comment that its too hard to be nice, that its not.
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