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Harms · 05-16-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BCguy

I agree that it is two-faced of him to make these comments now. But just dont think what was said was as bad as some people are making it out to be.

It wasn't that big of a deal until Serra pointed out that GSP was full of crap. When Rockem made the thread about the interview, it had 3 replies with only Rockem making a comment about what GSP said about Serra. Serra seems to be one of those guys you don't cross cause he will make you look real bad, real quick.

opsy · 05-16-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Harms

It wasn't that big of a deal until Serra pointed out that GSP was full of crap. When Rockem made the thread about the interview, it had 3 replies with only Rockem making a comment about what GSP said about Serra. Serra seems to be one of those guys you don't cross cause he will make you look real bad, real quick.

Why would I care what a UFC Noob such as yourself thinks?

Normo · 05-17-2007, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bodybag

I know that the Hughes/serra started on tuf4 but I still think people should give hughes a little respect (fighting wise).

Osnodon i know not everyone is like Couture, my point is just that people always say "you cant always be nice" " so and so is too old" or all these other things and Randy Couture is proof that all these things can be accomplished. Nobody's perfect at all and just because they are famous doesnt mean they have to be, Im just saying to khodey's comment that its too hard to be nice, that its not.

Do you mean fans should respect Hughes for his fighting. I can safely say most people give Hughes respect for his fighting and ability but not many people like his attitude. I personally like Matt Hughes and think he is funny but thats just me.

MillerLite · 05-17-2007, 02:22 AM

I did not get a closely look at all posts to this thread, but one thing that comes to mind right away, that Matt Serra, even though I like him as a fighter, do not like him as a person. The reason being, and probably most people forget, or tend not to recognized, is that, Matt Serra always talks bad about his tough, or "seem to be better" opponents. Think back about when Matt went on TUF, he chewed out Marc Lamont, who I think is an established trainer. Then Matt went to to call names on Matt Hughes, an even more established fighter, who proved to us all over the years that he indeed is a great champion. And now, Matt Serra got the win over GSP, GSP was truthful to himself, admitted to have been beaten by a better fighter that particular night. But we all should realized, when a fighter looses, besides the loss, there are many, many tiny reasons, that add up to the loss, not just that particular moment in the cage, or ring where the actual fight happens. I think that all GSP did, was to go in a bit more detail, to let the fans know what happens in his training, camp, ect.. I don't think GSP said anything in the nature, that Matt Serra beat him only because GSP had a poor training camp or anything close to that. GSP was just giving us the more detail, insight to what was few of the things that contributed to the loss, he didn't take away the rightful win Matt Serra earned.
If you're a fighter like GSP, when you lost, and deep down, you know there were many tiny factors that added up to loosing that particular fight, are you not allowed to tell about it ? while all along you already said good things about the fighter who beat you and got the win ? does that really make you a whiny looser ? I don't think that is fair to jump on GSP to say that he 's making excuses and trying to take away anything from Matt Serra's win.
edit : have you noticed, so far, Matt Serra always said things to make well known, great fighters/trainers to be nothing but bad, and make himself a good guy. Should we all believed everything he says ? and now GSP suddenly is a bad guy, according to Matt Serra ?

Dreamfield · 05-17-2007, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MillerLite

edit : have you noticed, so far, Matt Serra always said things to make well known, great fighters/trainers to be nothing but bad, and make himself a good guy. Should we all believed everything he says ? and now GSP suddenly is a bad guy, according to Matt Serra ?

I've only seen Matt Serra talk bad about people that he doesn't like and that probably deserve it, such as Matt Hughes. I don't think GSP is a bad guy, but he had this coming after he disrespected Serra like that. There's no way saying you only trained 2 weeks for a fight is not blatant disrespect, and especially after Serra had only such high things to say of GSP, it was just the wrong thing to do.

Brad · 05-17-2007, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bodybag

Its not too hard to play the hero everytime, Randy Couture does not talk **** about anyone and has consistantly respectful to every fighter throughout his career. He has been in the media much longer than GSP and keeping up his nice streak. He has also never made an excuse for a loss even though he has been poked in the eye several times and slipped, he just refers to them as losses and thats how its should be. i think its a scape goat to be the bad guy, anyone can just talk some **** and blame a loss on something.

Apart from Tank Abbot of course

Anti-Sanchez · 05-17-2007, 05:10 AM

I was always a GSP fan and never really thought much of Matt Serra. But I 100% agree with what Matt says. GSP has been exposed as a "Mental Midget" just as Serra said. I always judged GSP on how gracious he seemed after his matches. But it's obvious he really did say that in the interview and if it's true he's as much of a punk as Hughes. He preached all along that he was going to train for Matt Serra just like he would've for Matt Hughes. But now he comes out and says this crap. I'd expect that from Tim Sylvia but I'm surprised to hear it from GSP.

One thing for certain, I've gained a 1000% more respect for Matt Serra after hearing him stand up to the bully Matt Hughes and now call GSP out for what he said. I'm still not convinced that Serra is the best WW in the UFC, but the guy has some serious heart and I give him props for that.

Drexal · 05-17-2007, 05:56 AM

I'm disappointed by GSP's comments, I think they were insulting to Matt Serra. I don't think he intended them to be so insulting but if he just put himself in Serras shoes he would have realised how bad they sounded. I like both of these fighters and hope they get to fight again. I really hope that Serra beats Hughes at the final of Ultimate Fighter 6 although that is going to be a long time away. Let's just hope we don't see this GSP any more, I much prefer the 'old' one.

name goes here · 05-17-2007, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by earvinarp

"Hit the road Frenchy"? And Serra is the classy guy here?

GSP's comments on the fight were probably someone else's bad advice.

I am getting a bit tired of Serra's playing the victim all the time. He is as surprised as any of his defeat of GSP. I will bet money against anybody on the outcome of their next encounter as GSP should be able to beat Serra 9 out of every 10 times.

Folks, why don't you compare resumes and start making peace with the fact that Serra's victory was a result of chance?

Dana, make them fight again. After all Serra earned his title match by winning a tv show (with a split decision), not in the main events.

"Hit the road Frenchy"? That is what you wish, Serra. After all you can get lucky only once in a while.

I agree. Better to say hit the road ******* or whatever. What if Serra has French /F-Canadian fans?

GSP is normally perfectly polite in his comments. And he was so immediately after the fight and in everything I've heard from him since. Then there's this one bad quote and suddenly he's a jerk. What he said isn't even that bad. His training was flawed - yes most losses are probably decided in the training before the match - he underestimated Serra and wouldn't have taken the fight if it were hughes - yes we already know he underestimated Serra. He thinks he would win the rematch - of course he's going to think that.

I like Serra but it's harder to now. An American fighter in the ufc insulting foreigners is not classy. GSP didn't let boing make him insult USA, which is why he's the classier guy imo.

(I agree with GSP - Vitor comparison)

arelius · 05-17-2007, 08:24 AM

Yep serra won fair and square and his head is swelling in the same fashion. His next fight, if they don't feed him a can, will be a loss. Weather it be hughes, penn, pulver or gsp. the belt is comming off serra's waste. Like an earlier post stated, it was fight of chance that he got the belt.

Despite how hard gsp stated he trained for this fight, he underestemated serra and paid for it. Serra is not a title holder, he won it and now he will lose it just as fast.

subgenius · 05-17-2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by arelius

Yep serra won fair and square and his head is swelling in the same fashion. His next fight, if they don't feed him a can, will be a loss. Weather it be hughes, penn, pulver or gsp. the belt is comming off serra's waste. Like an earlier post stated, it was fight of chance that he got the belt.

Despite how hard gsp stated he trained for this fight, he underestemated serra and paid for it. Serra is not a title holder, he won it and now he will lose it just as fast.

GSP was not a title holder either, by that assumption. GSP won the title, and then lost it on the first defense. I am sorry, but he will never be a better champion than Matt Hughes, if GSP cannot defend the title. If Matt Serra has a single successful title defense, then he will be a better champion than GSP.

Matt Serra has gone through a lot to get where he is currently. He did not come out of nowhere. This is a guy that has been competing in either Jui-jitsu of MMA for over a decade. He knows a lot. He trains other fighters. I seriouslt doubt that he will pull a GSP and not train or underestimate his opponent.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 05-17-2007, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

GSP was not a title holder either, by that assumption. GSP won the title, and then lost it on the first defense. I am sorry, but he will never be a better champion than Matt Hughes, if GSP cannot defend the title. If Matt Serra has a single successful title defense, then he will be a better champion than GSP.

Matt Serra has gone through a lot to get where he is currently. He did not come out of nowhere. This is a guy that has been competing in either Jui-jitsu of MMA for over a decade. He knows a lot. He trains other fighters. I seriouslt doubt that he will pull a GSP and not train or underestimate his opponent.

what has matt serra gone through!? hes an average fighter with next to no big name wins... his ONLY huge win is against GSP... he beat lytle in a controversial decision, he beat shonie in a boring fight.... he was VERY lucky to get a title shot

subgenius · 05-17-2007, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MillerLite

I did not get a closely look at all posts to this thread, but one thing that comes to mind right away, that Matt Serra, even though I like him as a fighter, do not like him as a person. The reason being, and probably most people forget, or tend not to recognized, is that, Matt Serra always talks bad about his tough, or "seem to be better" opponents. Think back about when Matt went on TUF, he chewed out Marc Lamont, who I think is an established trainer. Then Matt went to to call names on Matt Hughes, an even more established fighter, who proved to us all over the years that he indeed is a great champion. And now, Matt Serra got the win over GSP, GSP was truthful to himself, admitted to have been beaten by a better fighter that particular night. But we all should realized, when a fighter looses, besides the loss, there are many, many tiny reasons, that add up to the loss, not just that particular moment in the cage, or ring where the actual fight happens. I think that all GSP did, was to go in a bit more detail, to let the fans know what happens in his training, camp, ect.. I don't think GSP said anything in the nature, that Matt Serra beat him only because GSP had a poor training camp or anything close to that. GSP was just giving us the more detail, insight to what was few of the things that contributed to the loss, he didn't take away the rightful win Matt Serra earned.
If you're a fighter like GSP, when you lost, and deep down, you know there were many tiny factors that added up to loosing that particular fight, are you not allowed to tell about it ? while all along you already said good things about the fighter who beat you and got the win ? does that really make you a whiny looser ? I don't think that is fair to jump on GSP to say that he 's making excuses and trying to take away anything from Matt Serra's win.
edit : have you noticed, so far, Matt Serra always said things to make well known, great fighters/trainers to be nothing but bad, and make himself a good guy. Should we all believed everything he says ? and now GSP suddenly is a bad guy, according to Matt Serra ?

You make it seem like Matt Serra just walks around bad-mouthing people for no reason. Well, even though I agree with a few of Marc Laimon's points, I feel that Serra was right in that situation. Laimon was disrespecting Royce Gracie and Gracie JJ. Matt Serra called Laimon out. The Gracies are fighters. Laimon, like most of us here, sit on the sidelines and make comments. We can do that. But, on TUF, Laimon did it with actual fighters standing by. So, Laimon got what he deserved.

Serra has only really gone off on Hughes, GSP, and Laimon. Hughes, on TUF, seemed to be purposely playing the bad guy. Laimon was just talking smack and generating drama for the show. But, GSP does not really have that type of excuse. What GSP did was just plain wrong on so many levels. GSP deserved the ire of Matt Serra. What GSP said was bad. He could have kept all that to himself.

What do any of you feel that GSP had to gain by saying that crap on a radio station interview? GSP cannot be Serra's friend, if they have to have a conversation through the media. I think that GSP simply cannot accept that he lost to a guy like Serra. A guy that was supposed to lose. A guy that GSP was supposed to be able to phone in his performance and still dominate completely. Well, GSP got a HUGE wake-up call.

subgenius · 05-17-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GSPalltheway

what has matt serra gone through!? hes an average fighter with next to no big name wins... his ONLY huge win is against GSP... he beat lytle in a controversial decision, he beat shonie in a boring fight.... he was VERY lucky to get a title shot

It seems like you don't know much about Matt Serra.

Matthew John Serra (born June 2, 1974 in East Meadow, New York) is a United States based Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioner and mixed martial artist, known for winning several martial arts championships. He is the current UFC Welterweight Champion, after an upset victory over Georges St. Pierre at UFC 69 in 2007. He began practicing martial arts at an early age, first studying kung fu. In the 1990s, he began studying Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Renzo Gracie and on May 23, 2000 was awarded his black belt, the first American to do so under Renzo Gracie.

As a purple belt, Serra won first place at the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Pan American games in 1999. Serra won third place at the 1999 World Championships in Brazil as a brown belt. Continuing his Martial Arts career, he competed in the ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship.

As for big name wins: we can discuss Yves Edwards and GSP. But, many people feel that Serra beat BJ Penn. Serra has lost to some big names, and there is no shame in that; Penn, Parisyan, Carter, and Thomas. Serra made all of them good fights. Matt Serra spent a long time earning his title shot. He went through TUF and came out on top. The man deserves his props.

FightingIrish · 05-17-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

It seems like you don't know much about Matt Serra.

Matthew John Serra (born June 2, 1974 in East Meadow, New York) is a United States based Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioner and mixed martial artist, known for winning several martial arts championships. He is the current UFC Welterweight Champion, after an upset victory over Georges St. Pierre at UFC 69 in 2007. He began practicing martial arts at an early age, first studying kung fu. In the 1990s, he began studying Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Renzo Gracie and on May 23, 2000 was awarded his black belt, the first American to do so under Renzo Gracie.

As a purple belt, Serra won first place at the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Pan American games in 1999. Serra won third place at the 1999 World Championships in Brazil as a brown belt. Continuing his Martial Arts career, he competed in the ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship.

As for big name wins: we can discuss Yves Edwards and GSP. But, many people feel that Serra beat BJ Penn. Serra has lost to some big names, and there is no shame in that; Penn, Parisyan, Carter, and Thomas. Serra made all of them good fights. Matt Serra spent a long time earning his title shot. He went through TUF and came out on top. The man deserves his props.

i agree, and that is quite the resume for him.

arelius · 05-17-2007, 09:21 AM

Serra did a great job beating GSP, but I still believe it was a fluke that he won, especially in the fashion he did it in.

The thing is now that he has the title he appears to be walking around spouting off at the mouth like he is above the rest of the pre title holders. He is talking too much crap.

OneBigThrow · 05-17-2007, 09:44 AM

nah all it is is you havhe an american fighter that is charismatic that the media wants a mic in front of as much as possible

and this charismatic individual just happens to shoot from the hip whenver he talks

mics + questions + not holding tongue = matt serra responses

Normo · 05-17-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by arelius

Serra did a great job beating GSP, but I still believe it was a fluke that he won, especially in the fashion he did it in.

The thing is now that he has the title he appears to be walking around spouting off at the mouth like he is above the rest of the pre title holders. He is talking too much crap.

How can you win a fight with a luck, you cant. He beat him fair and square, if he hadnt of got the KO I am pretty sure he would of won the round also, that isnt a fluke win. Maybe if he was nearly KOed and swung like a mad man and clipped GSP I would of called it fairly lucky but it still wouldnt of been a fluke.

Please find me where Serra has bad mouthed someone apart from calling GSP a Frenchy because he badmouthed him. What other "crap" has he said? please show me.