Serra rips GSP for his remarks. - Page 5 - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1

Normo · 05-17-2007, 10:38 AM

Matt Hughes has said lots of crap about Serra before that though, which you fail to mention and if somebody is bad mouthing you, you are not going to ignore it are you when you will have to fight them soon enough. I also bet 90% of MMA fans would call Matt Hughes a "dick" also because of his attitude and big head.

Any others he has bad mouthed, because you said he is getting even lower.

xxzone · 05-17-2007, 10:59 AM

I think it's funny how everyone is talking about class here. Serra is showing very little class by going around calling people Dicks, and freaking out at every little thing. This happens a lot in MMA, the real class is shown by how you react to it.

People all have their opinions, but i'll say this much, all my point are going on the next person Serra fights. Regardless of the excuses GSP made, I still say GSP wins that fight 9 times out of 10. I know people disagree, but I'll be interested to see how many back it up with points next fight he has. I know I'll be backing up mine.

Seriously though, if you are going off about peoples class, show some yourself by not freaking out about stuff. It may be hard thing to do, but contantly calling someone a dick, even when they are a dick, isn't showing much class.

LABJJ · 05-17-2007, 11:04 AM

I agree with everything Serra said. When someone tries to take away from an achievement and a victory in a cowardly manner, I feel that the person who is being berated has the right to tell it like it is. Serra has never been shy in doing this. IMO i feel a person who has never competed in any sort of competitive sport has trouble understanding the dynamics of the sport. On a certain day my technique or submission may be right on, but technically the other opponent might have trained longer than me and might even technically be better. It is who is the best fighter on that day. You never know, Serra might or might not be the better fighter everyday, but on that day he was. By the way I thought the Frenchy thing added a little extra zing to the comments.

Osnodon · 05-17-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

It seems like you don't know much about Matt Serra.

Matthew John Serra (born June 2, 1974 in East Meadow, New York) is a United States based Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioner and mixed martial artist, known for winning several martial arts championships. He is the current UFC Welterweight Champion, after an upset victory over Georges St. Pierre at UFC 69 in 2007. He began practicing martial arts at an early age, first studying kung fu. In the 1990s, he began studying Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Renzo Gracie and on May 23, 2000 was awarded his black belt, the first American to do so under Renzo Gracie.

As a purple belt, Serra won first place at the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Pan American games in 1999. Serra won third place at the 1999 World Championships in Brazil as a brown belt. Continuing his Martial Arts career, he competed in the ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship.

As for big name wins: we can discuss Yves Edwards and GSP. But, many people feel that Serra beat BJ Penn. Serra has lost to some big names, and there is no shame in that; Penn, Parisyan, Carter, and Thomas. Serra made all of them good fights. Matt Serra spent a long time earning his title shot. He went through TUF and came out on top. The man deserves his props.

I could never understand why people think that Serra won that fight with Penn. Penn was less than stellar but it always came across as a clear win for him in my eyes.

subgenius · 05-17-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Osnodon

I could never understand why people think that Serra won that fight with Penn. Penn was less than stellar but it always came across as a clear win for him in my eyes.

I don't know. I mean, Matt Serra lost to BJ Penn because Serra could not get Penn down. It seemed to me that even though Serra was the aggressor and Penn landed virtually nothing in the fight, Penn still won the fight. I chalk it up to bad judging. Matt Serra lost a very close decision to BJ Penn.

Osnodon · 05-17-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

I don't know. I mean, Matt Serra lost to BJ Penn because Serra could not get Penn down. It seemed to me that even though Serra was the aggressor and Penn landed virtually nothing in the fight, Penn still won the fight. I chalk it up to bad judging. Matt Serra lost a very close decision to BJ Penn.

I had really high expectations for that, it could have been so amazing.

MTKrav911 · 05-17-2007, 12:26 PM

Nah, Serra is a new yorker, and new yorkers pride themselves by not just sittin there and taking other peoples BS like most of the world.

Serra has a point. You lost, shut up and stop making excuses. I'm really getting tired of fighters whining and making excuses why they lost and I honestly don't recall in MMA when this started happen. BUt it was recent. And is happening way too much. You didnt see TIto cry when Randy handed him his ass in 2005, you didnt see Chuck Cry either when Randy pounded him, and you certainly didnt see Randy ever cry about a loss.

I think it's TUF crowd that started the whining in MMA. BUt, that's the nature of the beast.

And class isnt how you speak to a reporter on an interview just for window-dressing. Class is how you act responsibly when there's nothing to gain and when nobody is watching.

arelius · 05-17-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xxzone

I think it's funny how everyone is talking about class here. Serra is showing very little class by going around calling people Dicks, and freaking out at every little thing. This happens a lot in MMA, the real class is shown by how you react to it.

People all have their opinions, but i'll say this much, all my point are going on the next person Serra fights. Regardless of the excuses GSP made, I still say GSP wins that fight 9 times out of 10. I know people disagree, but I'll be interested to see how many back it up with points next fight he has. I know I'll be backing up mine.

Seriously though, if you are going off about peoples class, show some yourself by not freaking out about stuff. It may be hard thing to do, but contantly calling someone a dick, even when they are a dick, isn't showing much class.

well said

riversideblues · 05-17-2007, 01:10 PM

time to chime into this thread.

MATT SERRA ISN'T TALKING ****, HE'S RESPONDING TO WHAT OTHER'S HAVE BEEN SAYING

Matt Serra never talked **** about Chris Lytle or anyone else from TUF, but do you blame him for responding to GSP talking him down like that? because i sure don't. The same with Hughes, he was an arrogant dick on the show, as was Mark Lamont. Mark talked all kinds of **** about Royce Gracie and it offended Serra...

I don't see why people are getting all bent out of shape about Matt Serra defending himself

SeikanJudanski · 05-17-2007, 01:38 PM

Wow, this thread is going double uranium...

LABJJ · 05-17-2007, 01:48 PM

Who said Matt Serra is freaking out. What type of person would just sit there and let someone belittle them. If someone said to me, the only reason you beat me was because I had a sprung finger and I only trained for two weeks because I thought you were a scrub. I find that insulting and I would have more disappointed if Matt Serra did not say anything. They always called out Tim Sylvia when he made excuses. GSP should be no different than anyother fighter.

Dirty Fighter · 05-17-2007, 01:50 PM

I am not ready to brand GSP as an @hole just yet. Sure the comments were unprofessional and somewhat shallow, but they were also uncharacteristic of him. Everybody has their moments when they say something they wish they could take back. I think over the long run GSP's behavior and comments will show that he is a class act and suffered from a momentary lapse in judgment. As far as Serra's response goes, who could blame him. It is not like he heard about it ahead of time and had the opportunity to come up with an answer that wouldn't seem so hostile. The info was sprung on him. He was caught off guard and responded while he was still upset. They are both fighters that I admire for both their traits as fighters and as people and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Crashsti · 05-17-2007, 01:50 PM

these guys are fighters and most fighters are not normal people. heck, most top level athletes are not normal. not everyone is going to be as well spoken as a Rich Franklin or Randy Couture.

Gooner · 05-17-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Crashsti

these guys are fighters and most fighters are not normal people. heck, most top level athletes are not normal. not everyone is going to be as boring as Rich Franklin.

Just making the point that you can be colourful and still be one of the good guys. I mean c'mon, Rich is a cool guy but man... does anyone bother listening to his interviews anymore? He puts people to sleep in more ways than one.

Serra and GSP are both still good guys to me, but in this little episode here, Georgie was the one in the wrong and I think it's funny how some people think Serra's a dick now.

I hope (and think) this was a one time thing from GSP, and that he'll back to his usual self now that Serra put him in his place.

Crashsti · 05-17-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gooner

Just making the point that you can be colourful and still be one of the good guys. I mean c'mon, Rich is a cool guy but man... does anyone bother listening to his interviews anymore? He puts people to sleep in more ways than one.

Serra and GSP are both still good guys to me, but in this little episode here, Georgie was the one in the wrong and I think it's funny how some people think Serra's a dick now.

I hope (and think) this was a one time thing from GSP, and that he'll back to his usual self now that Serra put him in his place.

i personally like when the fighters have little episodes like these. they draw alot of attentiona nd add a little flavor to a sport which is normally all about training and then fighting and then some more training. i am sure Dana loves this circus stuff as well. it'll make a rematch bewteen these guys an easy sell.

basslogic4003 · 05-17-2007, 10:47 PM

I train BJJ at Matt/Nick Serra's academy on Long Island. I can tell you, from regular 4x a week experiences, that Matt (and his bro Nick for that matter) is one of the most humble, hilarious, amiable and talented people I've ever met. He greets every single person that walks into his academy with a huge smile and a hearty handshake. He makes an effort to know the names of every person who trains at his academy, which, as you can imagine, has gotten quite busy after his victory. He has an affinity for the short guys/girls "I did this for people our size!" is a common quote

One of the things that bothers me the most about this is the hypocrisy. Remember those interview clips where GSP says something to the effect of "I'll have to train harder for this fight than ever before"? He lost, and now he only trained for two weeks? Come on. I was a GSP fan mostly for his gentlemanly attitude in a sport that needs people like that...not so much anymore.

I'm a Serra fan, always have been, always will

OneBigThrow · 05-17-2007, 11:09 PM

ahah its just that rich franklin is so soft spoken, he has interesting things to say but he is so damn quiet its like he doesnt really wanna talk

earvinarp · 05-18-2007, 08:58 AM

Matt Serra did more than respond to GSP. I am quoting from his answer:

“Georges St. Pierre is a pathetic liar... Everything is a cliché with this guy. Stop reading from the script for once and speak from the heart."

"he’s led around by a bunch of morons, well except for his kickboxing coach that guy gets it. But the rest of them they got him convinced he’s a God. He must be a mental midget, which makes us about even since I’m a physical midget."

"Anyway, for a guy who preaches honor and character, he sure isn’t showing any... Well **** you, I don’t want to be your friend. Hit the road Frenchy.”

That was not simply "defending himself." He took advantage of the occasion given to him to talk as much trash as possible about GSP and his camp, entitling us to say whatever we want to say about him.

GSPALLTHEWAY · 05-18-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by subgenius

It seems like you don't know much about Matt Serra.

Matthew John Serra (born June 2, 1974 in East Meadow, New York) is a United States based Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioner and mixed martial artist, known for winning several martial arts championships. He is the current UFC Welterweight Champion, after an upset victory over Georges St. Pierre at UFC 69 in 2007. He began practicing martial arts at an early age, first studying kung fu. In the 1990s, he began studying Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Renzo Gracie and on May 23, 2000 was awarded his black belt, the first American to do so under Renzo Gracie.

As a purple belt, Serra won first place at the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Pan American games in 1999. Serra won third place at the 1999 World Championships in Brazil as a brown belt. Continuing his Martial Arts career, he competed in the ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship.

As for big name wins: we can discuss Yves Edwards and GSP. But, many people feel that Serra beat BJ Penn. Serra has lost to some big names, and there is no shame in that; Penn, Parisyan, Carter, and Thomas. Serra made all of them good fights. Matt Serra spent a long time earning his title shot. He went through TUF and came out on top. The man deserves his props.

yes i know nothing and you know all... i am very aware of matt serras resume... as i said im not overly impressed... his win over GSP was huge for him... recently before that he is done next to nothing except BARELY beat a couple of average TUF fighters... and before that he was a slight better then .500 fighter... more known as a trainer. it was a huge upset, hes champ, great win on his part... but his career is far less than stellar

Gooner · 05-18-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by earvinarp

Matt Serra did more than respond to GSP. I am quoting from his answer:

“Georges St. Pierre is a pathetic liar... Everything is a cliché with this guy. Stop reading from the script for once and speak from the heart."

"he’s led around by a bunch of morons, well except for his kickboxing coach that guy gets it. But the rest of them they got him convinced he’s a God. He must be a mental midget, which makes us about even since I’m a physical midget."

"Anyway, for a guy who preaches honor and character, he sure isn’t showing any... Well **** you, I don’t want to be your friend. Hit the road Frenchy.”

That was not simply "defending himself." He took advantage of the occasion given to him to talk as much trash as possible about GSP and his camp, entitling us to say whatever we want to say about him.

True. He did more than respond.

He
1) owned him and
2) was funny.

You talk trash like GSP did, you deserve some payback.
I hope he was humbled by the response.