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05-19-2007, 08:34 AM
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Parisyan on Serra
Even though he concedes that the guy came out ready to fight GSP, Parisyan does not sound a 100% sure about Serra either.This is what he had to say:
“I look at Matt Serra and I’m like okay, here’s a guy I fought and I literally annihilated him... The guy came off the show, knocks out a guy that he wasn’t supposed to be with past the first or second round, and it’s unbelievable for me. But it is what it is and I definitely look at that and tell myself that if Matt Serra can become a world champion, then I can be a world champion. I’ve got to hand it to him, he went in there and he fought. He stood right in front of St-Pierre, threw bombs, and he caught him. That’s the beauty of mixed martial arts, you never know what can happen.”
Will Serra get all worked up about this one too?
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05-19-2007, 08:48 AM
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Why should he? Oh...I'm guessing you are comparing this to what St. Pierre said about Serra. Not even close to the same.
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05-19-2007, 09:28 AM
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Karo did not annihilate Matt Serra. Perhaps I should watch the fight again but I've seen it a lot and I'm pretty sure Matt Serra landed a bomb on Karo and sent him tumbling with it. Then he made that classic mistake we've seen before, like in his fight with Shonie, and maybe Lytle as well, where he gets excited and runs in with a flurry of very fast but mostly ineffective punches. He talked about how he patched up that flaw in his game against St.Pierre, how he took his time once he knew he was stunned. Serra stopped, collected himself, and continued to throw bombs. If he had of done that to Karo that could have been it. Not that Karo didn't come close to winning at times, too, but it was no annihilation.
The more I hear Parisyan talk, the less I like him. Which sucks because I love Judo and he's like the only Judo guy. I'm still a Karo fan and can't wait to bet on him against Burkman.
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05-19-2007, 11:53 AM
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This is like trying to compare apples to oranges. Karo did not say well serra won because GSP was hurt or any other excuses that have been said. Karo was making a general comment about the fight and expectations that were there going into the fight. Karo was not making excuses or trying to totally tear down Matt Serra's victory of GSP.
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05-19-2007, 01:04 PM
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Karo is one of my favorite fighters, but he really has a distorted view of how his fights played out.
The Serra/Parysian fight was competitive, but Karo in no way annihilated him. If I remember correctly, Serra gave him a run for his money until he gassed in the third round.
Karo kind of said the same thing about the Nick Diaz and Diego Sanchez fights. The decision in the Diaz fight was pretty close and could have gone either way, and Diego put some good lickins on Karo.
Karo is a little crazy. 
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05-19-2007, 01:31 PM
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Karo is a good fighter, but face it, lately he's been an under-achiever.
I question Karo's killer instinct. He has got some of the prettiest Judo throws and he can box. But it seems that with karo, if the fight drags on, he loses something. I don't know if it's conditioning, or what, but he just seems to be doing great in a fight, then he kinda ends flat.
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05-19-2007, 01:40 PM
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i wouldnt call him an underachiever
and serra would in no way object to that, fighters always see fights differently than they actually are, some guys willl barely lose and say they got their ass kicked, just like karo sees the serra match as an annihilation
u must take into account the rightful bitterness that karo has never gotten that title shot he was supposed to get
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05-19-2007, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MTKrav911
Karo is a good fighter, but face it, lately he's been an under-achiever.
I question Karo's killer instinct. He has got some of the prettiest Judo throws and he can box. But it seems that with karo, if the fight drags on, he loses something. I don't know if it's conditioning, or what, but he just seems to be doing great in a fight, then he kinda ends flat.
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It could be like a Melvin Guillard thing. loses his will if things aren't going to plan. But he is kind of carrying a stigma of having poor conditioning after the Sanchez fight.
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05-19-2007, 03:35 PM
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I like both fighters, but I'm not sure if Karo will ever take home the belt. He is great to watch, though.
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05-19-2007, 03:49 PM
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I thought the Fickett Vs. Karo fight and Karo Vs. Serra were pretty close fights. It does seem when Karo does get on some sort of streak though he loses a match and then he ends up having to start over again to regain momentum.
I think a lot of fighters see the way matches take place a lot differently than they do because they view it in a different perspective. They are seeing it in first person while other people are evaluating the fight from the outside.The viewer can actually step back and view the fight, most of the time, in a unbiased manner.
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05-19-2007, 04:51 PM
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i think after his fight, karo should accept jon fitch's challenge. I think that fight should have been at 71 not josh, but i think it would be a good one and it would definately give the winner an undisputed contender status(assuming they both get through their next fights).
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05-20-2007, 01:29 PM
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Guy talks about past fights like how things went back then Is 100% sure Its the same now , thats like saying well Rampage dominated Chuck Liddell why do they even bother to fight again . If this punk wants to talk **** about people dodging him , the ufc not making sense he should be In a Title shot already blah blah all that goes through my mind Is Jon finch calling him out for months and him or his camp guys not replying to any of it , lets see how his Judo throws do against a Purdue wrestling division 1 captain , not to mention I have not seen a pure wrestler advance with such nice striking skills In so little time before .
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05-20-2007, 02:19 PM
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Guy talks about past fights like how things went back then Is 100% sure Its the same now , thats like saying well Rampage dominated Chuck Liddell why do they even bother to fight again . If this punk wants to talk **** about people dodging him , the ufc not making sense he should be In a Title shot already blah blah all that goes through my mind Is Jon finch calling him out for months and him or his camp guys not replying to any of it , lets see how his Judo throws do against a Purdue wrestling division 1 captain , not to mention I have not seen a pure wrestler advance with such nice striking skills In so little time before .
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Where did he say that?
That's your interpretation.
And obviously you don't like the guy.
He said he tells himself that "if Matt Serra can become a world champion, then I can be a world champion."
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05-20-2007, 10:51 PM
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Where did he say that?
That's your interpretation.
And obviously you don't like the guy.
He said he tells himself that "if Matt Serra can become a world champion, then I can be a world champion."
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Obviously I don't like the guy ? Where did I say that ? thats your Interpretation.
I think Karo Is awesome , his fight with Sanchez and vs Nick Diaz are probably 2 of my fav fights In the last couple of years . He made reference to whooping Matt serra's ass so If Matt could be the champion then so could he , Does he accutally believe Matt serra Is the exact same fighter 2 years ago when they first met . Matt serra Is holding the belt because he got a second chance and took full advantage of It and when it came to getting a shot at GSP all the presure to perform was on he came through thats the bottom line , Karo had his Chance at Matt hughes and pulled out with a Injury , but then got a second chance but Lost to Diego and he wants to talk about why the hell Isn't he next ?
Now Gooner your normally the first to Quote people and tell them why there wrong but just once Give your head a shake and don't jump on the negatives.
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05-20-2007, 11:15 PM
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Obviously I don't like the guy ? Where did I say that ? thats your Interpretation.
I think Karo Is awesome , his fight with Sanchez and vs Nick Diaz are probably 2 of my fav fights In the last couple of years . He made reference to whooping Matt serra's ass so If Matt could be the champion then so could he , Does he accutally believe Matt serra Is the exact same fighter 2 years ago when they first met . Matt serra Is holding the belt because he got a second chance and took full advantage of It and when it came to getting a shot at GSP all the presure to perform was on he came through thats the bottom line , Karo had his Chance at Matt hughes and pulled out with a Injury , but then got a second chance but Lost to Diego and he wants to talk about why the hell Isn't he next ?
Now Gooner your normally the first to Quote people and tell them why there wrong but just once Give your head a shake and don't jump on the negatives.
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OK, I may have misinterpreted something there.
Possibly due to your lack of punctuation and capitalizing weird words and whatnot...
But saying
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If this punk wants to talk **** about people dodging him , the ufc not making sense he should be In a Title shot already blah blah all that goes through my mind Is Jon finch calling him out for months and him or his camp guys not replying to any of it , lets see how his Judo throws do against a Purdue wrestling division 1 captain
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kinda gave me the idea that you're not his biggest fan to be honest.
"Does he actually believe..."?
Go ask him. I don't think he was saying that, you did (and still do, unless I'm misinterpreting something again).
And that's what I commented on in my previous post.
When someone calls a fighter I like a "punk", it's just so much easier for me to "jump on negatives".
Sorry about that, IrishRage.
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05-21-2007, 01:30 AM
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You know, I'd actually think that what he said is in a way a positive thing. It seems that he is inspired by Matts championship victory.
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05-21-2007, 02:34 AM
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I have never been any fighter's fan, but like lots of fighters (Rich Franklin, Matt Hughes, Diego Sanchez, GSP, Chuck Liddell, Frank/Ken Shamrock, Randy Couture, Joe Louzon, Nick Diaz, Karo Pyrisian, Evan Tanner, Spencer Fisher, and Royce Gracie - I really respect Royce's warrior's spirit, if you ever watched his first few UFC's fights when he was younger, look into his eyes, that's a warrior, a true martial aritst), either by their talents, commitments, personalities, or fighting styles. Karo is one of the fighters that I like. I just think that it's too bad, that Karo, as great a judo expert that he is, not wanting, or from what I've seen, not drilling on the stand up aspect of the fight game. Personally, I think that stand up fighting techniques are easy to learn and adapt, the hard techniques are the ground fightings. If Karo would be willing to learn basic taekwondo punching / kicking techniques, which is so easy to pick up, from the right person, there's no limit to how far he will go, probably end up division's top dog one day, if not champion.
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05-21-2007, 12:51 PM
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Its very interesting to see what they are going to do with Karo after the Burkman fight, assuming he wins it. I've always liked watching Karo fight and don't think he really bashed Serra.
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Even though he concedes that the guy came out ready to fight GSP, Parisyan does not sound a 100% sure about Serra either.This is what he had to say:
“I look at Matt Serra and I’m like okay, here’s a guy I fought and I literally annihilated him... The guy came off the show, knocks out a guy that he wasn’t supposed to be with past the first or second round, and it’s unbelievable for me. But it is what it is and I definitely look at that and tell myself that if Matt Serra can become a world champion, then I can be a world champion. I’ve got to hand it to him, he went in there and he fought. He stood right in front of St-Pierre, threw bombs, and he caught him. That’s the beauty of mixed martial arts, you never know what can happen.”
Will Serra get all worked up about this one too?
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If you're going to quote an interview, please give the source. In this case,
UFC.com: Karo Parisyan.
Second, this is in no way the same as the GSP's comments. There are no excuses. You're obviously still sore that GSP is catching criticism for his remarks.
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If you're going to quote an interview, please give the source. In this case,
UFC.com: Karo Parisyan.
Second, this is in no way the same as the GSP's comments. There are no excuses. You're obviously still sore that GSP is catching criticism for his remarks.
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That is why we are discussing it. It is a forum and that is what this is for. Whether or not his remarks compare to GSP's, it is nonetheless interesting mentioning it. Apparently Karo is as surprised as any of Serra's being the champion. That is all I am saying. I am not making comparisons.
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