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Old 08-05-2007, 07:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Accused Sherk Files for Extention

Sunday, August 05, 2007
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UFC lightweight champion Sean Sherk, whose A and B urine samples tested positive for banned substances following his decision victory over Hermes Franca at UFC 73, told Sherdog.com on Sunday afternoon that he has filed for an extension with the California State Athletic Commission.

Sherk, who turned 34 on Sunday, was set to go before the CSAC Monday morning to dispute the tests, which showed elevated levels of the anabolic steroid nandrolone.

"I don't want this to take any longer than it has to, but I hired my lawyer just a couple of weeks ago," said Sherk. "I want to get this done as soon as possible so I can fight B.J. [Penn] in November, but the next hearing wouldn't be until October."
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How come he wanna fight Penn in Nov.. what if they suspend him in Oct??

Even if they don't suspend him.. BJ Penn may be in Jail at that time!! (Just kidding)
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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not sure why he filed an extension. If he's so confident he's innocent he should have a good defense, filing an extension just gives him more time to make up lies.
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I know! I think that delaying the thing more and more will increases his chance of getting out of it.. And i hope he does get out of it.. He did use steroids.. Which i believe must be legalized in every sport.. But they must monitor athletes' drug level so they don't overdo it!
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I know! I think that delaying the thing more and more will increases his chance of getting out of it.. And i hope he does get out of it.. He did use steroids.. Which i believe must be legalized in every sport.. But they must monitor athletes' drug level so they don't overdo it!
I totally disagree, we might as well start using robotic parts and be cyborgs.....
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I know! I think that delaying the thing more and more will increases his chance of getting out of it.. And i hope he does get out of it.. He did use steroids.. Which i believe must be legalized in every sport.. But they must monitor athletes' drug level so they don't overdo it!
I also disagree with using steriods, cause if they will make it legal to use it in MMA then other sports will also say they want to use it to since MMA legalized it.

Also it will make a bad image for MMA in my opinion if they will use steriods and says it is okay.
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Oh man, I knew that everybody is gonna jump my back when I said that..

Guys.. don't get me wrong please!

Me too.. I also wanna see our beloved MMA evolving and getting accepted everywhere.. But I'm also hoping that people can lose any association between steroids and the bad image that steroids represented for decades..

Yes.. Steroids have some nasty side effects.. But people gotta know the fact that there are also numerous ways, drugs, cycles that athletes and other users can implement in order to minimize the s/e to virtually nothing..

Educating people is essential!

And when I said they should legalize it.. I meant in all sports.. But we still need these commissions to monitor drug levels so nobody accidentally/intentionally overdo it! So no one can hurt himself or others!

That's my personal opinion.. And I value everybody's as well!
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Blah, this sucks. All this time I've been defending him. Very dissapointing.
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To be honest.. I'm a bit disappointed too..

I wanted to see an end to this today (Aug 6th) as scheduled.. I wanted to know if there'll be Sherk-Penn fight.. or some other fighters are gonna fight for the title..

Also wanted to know whether to include Sherk to in the FF ranking for next month or not..
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Oh man, I knew that everybody is gonna jump my back when I said that..

Guys.. don't get me wrong please!

Me too.. I also wanna see our beloved MMA evolving and getting accepted everywhere.. But I'm also hoping that people can lose any association between steroids and the bad image that steroids represented for decades..

Yes.. Steroids have some nasty side effects.. But people gotta know the fact that there are also numerous ways, drugs, cycles that athletes and other users can implement in order to minimize the s/e to virtually nothing..

Educating people is essential!

And when I said they should legalize it.. I meant in all sports.. But we still need these commissions to monitor drug levels so nobody accidentally/intentionally overdo it! So no one can hurt himself or others!

That's my personal opinion.. And I value everybody's as well!
As said before, that is the worst idea ever. If you legalized steroids in sport then people who dont believe in / use steroids would be at a complete disadvantage. It would be "the best fighter in the world" anymore would it, it would be "the fighter who takes the most steroids" which would be stupid. It would be like playing a game online and people are cheating but you dont believe in cheats (like myself), you are normally on the losing side.
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Yeah so this confirms how guilty he is in my eyes. If he gets out of it it will be because of a trick of some sorts.

HE FAILED TWO TESTS already and now is pullin shifty court room stunts... please!
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If he gets out of it, it just means somebody gots paid. Happens all tha time.
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I totally disagree, we might as well start using robotic parts and be cyborgs.....
the rate your soldiers are losing limbs in iraq and the amazing cybernetic props replacements scientists are comming up with, it may not be such a crazy idea in 20 years lol.

they had this robotic arm that was straight out of the terminator working on prototype already.

Anyway, Sherk should be sacked, and his opponent, BJ should be given the vacant paper title and defend it against the best LW contender. From prison.
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As said before, that is the worst idea ever. If you legalized steroids in sport then people who dont believe in / use steroids would be at a complete disadvantage. It would be "the best fighter in the world" anymore would it, it would be "the fighter who takes the most steroids" which would be stupid. It would be like playing a game online and people are cheating but you dont believe in cheats (like myself), you are normally on the losing side.
you attacking the idea or the poster?

pride didnt test and fedor still kicked ass.

i think that dr. chicago's point may have been, and correct me if im wrong, is that in order to have a level playing field, the participants have to be on even keel. if we have a few fighters who are on the juice and these guys arent tested or beat the test, we have an apple and orange fighting rather than two apples fighting. if, however, we were to legalize steroids and regulate it, all fighters have the similar opportunity to fight similar fighters to themselves, and also have a governing body ensure teh safety of all those involved.

in terms of legitimacy, look at baseball. how many ball players are cheating (yes, i believe it is cheating), yet baseball is still america's past time, at least until mma takes over

i find it interesting that there is such a high level of self governing in differing sports, much like my community, or even ff, wherein if someone oversteps the bounds of acceptable conduct, there will subtle cues as to which conduct is deemed offensive. barry bonds aint getting so much love these days, and is booed out of every park but one, amd teh media and other players seem rather tentative to comment on his action, almost as an attempt to distance themselves from his actions.

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I know! I think that delaying the thing more and more will increases his chance of getting out of it.. And i hope he does get out of it.. He did use steroids.. Which i believe must be legalized in every sport.. But they must monitor athletes' drug level so they don't overdo it!
sheesh, I thought I've heard it all, this takes the price.
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As said before, that is the worst idea ever. If you legalized steroids in sport then people who dont believe in / use steroids would be at a complete disadvantage. It would be "the best fighter in the world" anymore would it, it would be "the fighter who takes the most steroids" which would be stupid. It would be like playing a game online and people are cheating but you dont believe in cheats (like myself), you are normally on the losing side.
I think everyone here is streching the effects of steroids a bit to far.

There might be a size/strength advantage associated with someone taking compared to someone who isn't, but them being on steroids isnt going to make them a better fighter.

Many times there have been guys who arent as physically strong, still win the fight by just plain being a better fighter overall.

The strength is a advantage, but its not as huge of a advantage as its being made out to be, i still dont agree with there usage in a sport much less a combat sport.

If you really weigh the advantages of taking a steroid in MMA, to what will happen if you get caught, its not worth the risk in my mind.

Sherk may have won his fight, but its likely he wont fight again for a entire year and much of his credability is ruined in the eyes of his fans, so i don't think its really worth the risk.

Im sure there are plenty of others that use steroids and simply have not gotten caught, but as the saying goes, if you play with fire eventually you get burned, they will screw up at some point and get busted.
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I think everyone here is streching the effects of steroids a bit to far.

There might be a size/strength advantage associated with someone taking compared to someone who isn't, but them being on steroids isnt going to make them a better fighter.

Many times there have been guys who arent as physically strong, still win the fight by just plain being a better fighter overall.

The strength is a advantage, but its not as huge of a advantage as its being made out to be, i still dont agree with there usage in a sport much less a combat sport.

If you really weigh the advantages of taking a steroid in MMA, to what will happen if you get caught, its not worth the risk in my mind.

Sherk may have won his fight, but its likely he wont fight again for a entire year and much of his credability is ruined in the eyes of his fans, so i don't think its really worth the risk.

Im sure there are plenty of others that use steroids and simply have not gotten caught, but as the saying goes, if you play with fire eventually you get burned, they will screw up at some point and get busted.
Sherks fighting style is all about power, if he didn't have the strength that he does he probably wouldn't even be in the UFC.
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Sherks fighting style is all about power, if he didn't have the strength that he does he probably wouldn't even be in the UFC.
His fighting style being about power does not mean he cant lose.

So im not sure how valid that arguement would be.

As i said before your stregnth being increased does not guarentee your going to win a fight, i said its a advantage, just not as big of one as its being made out to be.
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His fighting style being about power does not mean he cant lose.

So im not sure how valid that arguement would be.

As i said before your stregnth being increased does not guarentee your going to win a fight, i said its a advantage, just not as big of one as its being made out to be.
I was saying that if Sherk wasn't as big and strong as he is, he would have nothing. Sherk is a wrestler he uses his his incredible power to take and hold his opponents down, that's his thing he doesn't have great stand up, well he says he does but he never uses it, and he doesn't submit his opponents.
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MMANEWS.COM | The CSAC Grants Sean Sherk Continuance
The following is an excerpt from an article on TheFightNetwork.com:

The California State Athletic Commission Monday granted continuances to UFC lightweight champion Sean Sherk and veteran middleweight Phil Baroni, as the two appeal positive tests for suspected steroid use. The appeals of both men will be heard when the commission re-convenes in Los Angeles in October.
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