LET'S VOTE! FIGHT FORUM'S Official UFC Rankings Thread - September

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Your Vote Counts! It’s time for Fight Forum members to gather and rank the TOP 10 UFC fighters for each weight class.

Here are the rules for those of you who are unfamiliar:

1. Around the last week of every month, I’ll post a new thread for all Fight Forum members (mods are welcome as well) to rank their Top 10 UFC Fighters for each division.

2. Member rankings will end on Friday, August 31st at 8:00 PM PST. I’ll then calculate all of the votes from each participating member to determine that month’s “Fight Forum Member’s Official UFC Rankings” and post a new thread with the official results of the Top 10 fighters in each weight class.

3. If you’re wondering how the calculations will be made, I’ll assign points for the ranking you give them. I.E. 10 points for 1st, 9 pts for 2nd, on down to 1 pt for 10th. The fighter with the most collective points in a particular weight class will be ranked 1st overall and so on.

4. Since you’re posting your Top 10 list for all to see, please maintain your integrity and vote with as little bias as possible. For example, if you’re a huge Gabe Ruediger fan and place him as the #1 LW fighter in the UFC then everyone will know you’re a tool.

5. The UFC rankings are intended to be for the upcoming month, not all-time. For rankings to be included in the overall results, all fighters must either have fought in the UFC within the last 12 months, have a current UFC fight scheduled or be signed to a new UFC contract, thereby qualifying their intentions to fight in the UFC in the near future.

6. For rankings to count, you must rank all ten fighters for each weight class. If you only rank six fighters at MW, for example, your rankings will not be included in the final tally.

7. You may edit your rankings after you first make them. If you edit, however, you must PM me to let me know that you’ve done so. I usually tally the rankings on a daily basis, so if you edit them later and don’t notify me, I will not know and your previous rankings will remain.

Here are my rankings for September:
(my prior month’s rankings are in parentheses)

HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Randy Couture (1)
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (2)
3. Mirko CroCop (4)
4. Tim Sylvia (5)
5. Andrei Arlovski (6)
6. Gabriel Gonzaga (3)
7. Brandon Vera (7)
8. Fabricio Werdum (8)
9. Frank Mir (-)
10. Cheik Kongo (10)

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Quinton Jackson (1)
2. Chuck Liddell (2)
3. Dan Henderson (3)
4. Mauricio Rua (4)
5. Wanderlei Silva (-)
6. Tito Ortiz (5)
7. Rashad Evans (6)
8. Lyoto Machida (7)
9. Jason Lambert (8)
10. Renato Sobral (9)

MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva (1)
2. Rich Franklin (2)
3. Nate Marquardt (3)
4. Yushin Okami (4)
5. Martin Kampmann (6)
6. Jason McDonald (8)
7. Terry Martin (9)
8. Thales Leites (-)
9. Kendall Grove (7)
10. Dean Lister (10)

WELTERWEIGHT
1. Matt Hughes (1)
2. George St. Pierre (2)
3. Diego Sanchez (3)
4. Jon Fitch (5)
5. Karo Parysian (6)
6. Josh Koscheck (4)
7. Matt Serra (7)
8. Mike Swick (8)
9. Josh Burkman (9)
10. Marcus Davis (10)

LIGHTWEIGHT
1. BJ Penn (1)
2. Joe Stevenson (3)
3. Roger Huerta (2)
4. Kenny Florian (4)
5. Spencer Fisher (5)
6. Kurt Pellegrino (6)
7. Clay Guida (-)
8. Din Thomas (8)
9. Thiago Tavares (10)
10. Frank Edgar (-)

FYI… Wanderlei Silva is ranking eligible. Evan Tanner is no longer ranking eligible -- it seems that reports of him returning at UFC 76 was premature. Plus with UFC 77 and 78 already booked, it looks like it may be a while if Tanner returns.

NOTE: Sherk is still technically eligible if you choose to rank him. I left him out of my rankings, but his hearing is still pending for October.

Your turn.

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As always, I’ve included a list of UFC fighters for those who don’t want to overlook fighters. This isn’t intended to be a 100% comprehensive list, it’s merely a guideline of some of the more notable or recent UFC fighters. I’ve also included their overall records, their UFC records and their current overall win/loss streak, based upon sherdog fight data.

Heavyweight
Randy Couture 16-8, 13-5 UFC: streak +2
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 30-4-1, 1-0 UFC: streak +2
Gabriel Gonzaga 8-2, 4-1 UFC: streak -1
Mirko CroCop 22-5-2, 1-1 UFC: streak -1
Tim Sylvia 23-3, 8-3 UFC: streak -1
Andrei Arlovski 11-5, 8-4 UFC: streak +2
Brandon Vera 8-0, 4-0 UFC: streak +8
Fabricio Werdum 9-3-1, 0-1 UFC: streak -1
Jake O’Brien 10-0, 3-0 UFC: streak +10
Heath Herring 27-13, 1-2 UFC: streak -1
Cheick Kongo 10-3-1, 3-1 UFC: streak +1
Frank Mir 10-3, 8-3 UFC: streak +1
Justin McCully 8-3-2, 1-0 UFC: streak +4
Eddie Sanchez 7-1, 2-1 UFC: streak +1
Antoni Hardonk 5-4, 1-2 UFC: streak –2

Lt Heavyweight
Quinton Jackson 27-6, 2-0 UFC: streak +5
Chuck Liddell 20-4, 15-3 UFC: streak -1
Dan Henderson 25-5, 2-0 UFC: streak +2
Mauricio Rua 16-2, 0-0 UFC: streak +4
Wanderlei Silva 31-7-1, 0-0 UFC: streak -2
Tito Ortiz 15-5-1, 14-5-1 UFC: streak tie
Rashad Evans 10-0-1, 5-0-1 UFC: streak tie
Lyoto Machida 10-0, 2-0 UFC: streak +10
Jason Lambert 23-6, 4-1 UFC: streak +1
Renato Sobral 28-7, 6-4 UFC: streak +1
Michael Bisping 13-0, 3-0 UFC: streak +13
Keith Jardine 12-3-1, 4-2 UFC: streak -1
Thiago Silva 10-0, 1-0 UFC: streak +10
Forrest Griffin 14-4, 5-2 UFC: streak +1
Wilson Gouveia 9-4, 3-1 UFC: streak +3
Stephan Bonnar 10-4, 4-3 UFC: streak +1
Houston Alexander 7-1, 1-0 UFC: streak +7
Matt Hamill 3-0, 3-0 UFC: streak +3
David Heath 7-2, 2-2 UFC: streak -2
Alessio Sakara 11-5, 2-2 UFC: streak +1
Alan Belcher 10-3, 2-2 UFC: streak +1
Mike Nickels 5-2, 1-1 UFC: streak -1
Eric Schafer 7-2-2, 1-1 UFC: streak –1
Drew McFedries 6-2, 2-1 UFC: streak +1
Carmelo Marrero 6-2, 1-2 UFC: streak -2
James Irvin 12-4, 2-3 UFC: streak -1

Middleweight
Anderson Silva 19-4, 4-0 UFC: streak +5
Nathan Marquardt 25-7-2, 4-1 UFC: streak -1
Rich Franklin 22-2, 9-1 UFC: streak +2
Yushin Okami 20-4, 4-1 UFC: streak -1
Martin Kampmann 15-2, 3-0 UFC: streak +8
Kendall Grove 8-4, 3-1 UFC: streak -1
Jason McDonald 19-8, 3-1 UFC: streak +1
Terry Martin 16-2, 2-2 UFC: streak +4
Dean Lister 9-5, 2-1 UFC: streak -1
Thales Leites 12-1, 3-1 UFC: streak +3
Kalib Starnes 8-1-1, 2-1 UFC: streak +1
Ivan Salaverry 12-5, 3-2 UFC: streak -1
Ed Herman 13-5, 2-2 UFC: streak +2
Chris Leben 16-4, 6-3 UFC: streak -2
Travis Lutter 9-4, 2-3 UFC: streak -1
Ryan Jensen 11-2, 0-1 UFC: streak -1
Patrick Cote 11-4, 2-4 UFC: streak +3

Welterweight
Matt Hughes 41-5, 15-3 UFC: streak +1
George St. Pierre 14-2, 8-2 UFC: streak +1
Diego Sanchez 17-1, 6-1 UFC: streak -1
Josh Koscheck 9-2, 7-2 UFC: streak -1
Jon Fitch 14-2, 6-0 UFC: streak +13
Karo Parisian 17-4, 7-2 UFC: streak +2
Matt Serra 9-4, 6-4 UFC: streak +2
Mike Swick 10-2, 5-1 UFC: streak –1
Josh Burkman 8-4, 4-2 UFC: streak -1
Marcus Davis 12-3, 4-1 UFC: streak +9
Drew Fickett 29-5, 4-3 UFC: streak +1
Hayato Sakurai 30-7-2, 0-1 UFC: streak + 3
Thiago Alves 11-3, 4-2 UFC: streak +2
Paul Taylor 8-1-1, 1-0 UFC: streak +2
Tamdan McCrory 8-0, 1-0 UFC: streak +8
Kuniyoshi Hironaka 11-3, 1-1 UFC: streak +1
Chris Lytle 23-14-5, 3-6 UFC: streak +1
Roan Carneiro 11-6, 1-1 UFC : streak –1
Forrest Petz 13-4, 2-2 UFC: streak +1
Anthony Johnson 4-0, 1-0 UFC: streak +4
Luke Cummo 5-4, 2-2 UFC: streak +1
Keita Nakamura 13-2-2, 0-2 UFC: streak -2
Luigi Fiorivanti 10-3, 2-3 UFC: streak –2

Lightweight
Sean Sherk 32-2-1, 5-2 UFC: streak +3
BJ Penn 11-4-1, 6-3-1 UFC: streak +1
Roger Huerta 19-1-1, 5-0 UFC: streak +15
Joe Stevenson 28-7, 5-1 UFC: streak +4
Kenny Florian 6-3, 5-2 UFC: streak +2
Spencer Fisher 20-3, 5-2 UFC: streak +1
Kurt Pellegrino 10-3, 2-2 UFC: streak -1
Din Thomas 20-6, 5-2 UFC: streak +3
Marcus Aurelio 14-5, 0-1 UFC: streak –3
Thiago Tavares 13-0, 2-0 UFC: streak +13
Gleison Tibau 14-4, 2-1 UFC: streak +3
Terry Etim 9-0, 1-0 UFC: streak +9
Sam Stout 11-3-1, 1-2 UFC: streak –1
Jamie Varner 12-2, 1-1 UFC: streak +1
Frank Edgar 7-0, 2-0 UFC: streak +7
Jorge Gurgel 11-2, 2-1 UFC: streak +2
Manny Gamburyian 5-2, 0-1 UFC: streak -1
Nate Diaz 6-2, 1-0 UFC: streak +1
Joe Lauzon 15-3, 2-0 UFC: streak +5
Gray Maynard 2-0, 0-0 UFC: streak +2
Clay Guida 22-8, 1-2 UFC: streak +1
Tyson Griffin 9-1, 2-1 UFC: streak +1
Dustin Hazelett 9-3, 2-1 UFC: streak +2
Leonard Garcia 10-2, 1-1 UFC: streak +1
Cole Miller 12-2, 1-0 UFC: streak +3
Matt Wiman 7-3, 1-1 UFC: streak +1
Junior Assuncao 5-2 1-1 UFC: streak +1
Nate Mohr 8-4, 1-1 UFC: streak +1
Jason Black 21-3-1, 0-1 UFC: streak –1
Jeremy Stephens 8-2, 0-1 UFC: streak -1
Dokonjonosuke Mishima 17-6-2, 0-2 UFC: streak –1
Corey Hill 0-0, 0-0 UFC: streak 0
Rob Emerson 6-6, 0-0 UFC: streak +4

[Pitbull]

HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Randy Couture
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko Filipovic
4. Gabriel Gonzaga
5. Andrei Arlovski
6. Fabricio Werdum
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Heath Herring
9. Brandon Vera
10. Cheick Kongo

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Mauricio Rua
2. Quinton Jackson
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Dan Henderson
5. Wanderlai Silva
6. Lyoto Machida
7. Tito Ortiz
8. Rashad Evans
9. Wilson Gouveia
10. Forrest Griffin

MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva
2. Rich Franklin
3. Nate Marquardt
4. Yushin Okami
5. Martin Kampmann
6. Terry Martin
7. Ivan Salaverry
8. Jason McDonald
9. Thales Leites
10. Patrick Cote

WELTERWEIGHT
1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Matt Serra
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Diego Sanchez
6. Karo Parysian
7. Jon Fitch
8. Mike Swick
9. Thiago Alves
10. Josh Burkman

LIGHTWEIGHT
1. BJ Penn
2. Joe Stevenson
3. Thiago Tavares
4. Din Thomas
5. Clay Guida
6. Marcus Aurelio
7. Roger Huerta
8. Tyson Griffin
9. Joe Lazon
10. Nate Diaz

[FightFan76]

This is how I see it.....

Heavyweight
1.) Randy Couture : Legendary Champion need I say more
2.) Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira : Huge upside; possible future champ
3.) Brandon Vera : beat Sylvia and should get title shot
4.) Tim Sylvia : Cant deny his ability, earns title shot w/ win over Vera
5.) Gabriel Gonzaga : great tools but not tactition
6.) Arlovski : Very talented HW
7.) Mirko CroCop : Super striker needs another dimension
8.) Fabricio Werdum : Good solid HW
9.) Jake O’Brien : Can control fighters but needs submission skills
10.) Heath Herring : Has potential to move up the list some

Lt Heavyweight
1.) Quinton Jackson : He is the champ
2.) Mauricio Rua : The most skilled fighter in LHW w/ pressing style
3.) Chuck Liddel : Was champ for a long time, has perfected his style
4.) Dan Henderson : very well rounded fighter and among the best
5.) Wanderlai Silva : the guy is an animal what can I say
6.) Lyoto Machida : consistent winner can only move up, will be tough though
7.) Rashad Evans : feel he will beat Tito next time, good luck w/ top 6 though
8.) Tito Ortiz : has or can beat those below him
9.) Forrest Griffin : needs a good showing to maintain spot
10.) Michael Bisping : will be extremely hard for him to move up in LHW



Middleweight
1.) Anderson Silva : Champ and looks unbeatable
2.) Rich Franklin : Super talent w/ only legimate shot to beat Silva
3.) Yushin Okami : Strong consistent fighter, never dominated even in loss
4.) Nathan Marquardt : Well rounded fighter just not qiet top 3
5.) Martin Kampmann : Skilled fighter just have not seen enough of him
6.) Jason McDonald : Very skilled ground guy could challenge Kampman for 6
7.) Ed Herman : tough gritty fighter must show alot to move up
8.) Travis Lutter : has all the skills, could advance fast if gets his head right
9.) Patrick Cote : making a come back and looking good
10.) Kendall Grove : great potential; jut needs more experience


Welterweight
1.) Matt Serra : His spot until he loses the belt
2.) George St. Pierre : Most talented of whole group w/o a doubt
3.) Josh Koscheck : possibly 2nd best in stacked division
4.) Matt Hughes : Always tough opponent, beat Serra & top this list
5.) Diego Sanchez : back in picture if he beats Fitch
6.) Jon Fitch : beat Sanchez & he is in title contention
7.) Karo Parisian : skilled as anyone on list, would love to see him & Kos fight
8.) Marcus Davis : 1 big win away from seriously contending
9.) Mike Swick : has ability to work his way up in WW division
10.) Josh Burkman : needs to get back on track to remain in top 10


Lightweight
1.) BJ Penn : Most talented guy in division
2.) Joe Stevenson : here based on skill/potential; should get crack at title
3.) Roger Huerta : has earned this spot should fight for title behind Stevenson
4.) Thiago Tavares : Very skilled and very strong, should contend soon
5.) Din Thomas : has pulled off some quality wins to wind up here
6.) Spencer Fisher : tough gritty fighter
7.) Kenny Florian : some skill but dont see him any higher than 5
8.) Terry Etim : was impressed w/ him from UFC 70, could climb to top 3
9.) Melvin Guillard : best athlete in bunch, may contend if gets act together
10.) Nate Diaz : very skilled & crafty fighter will improve w/ experience

[Ztous]

HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Randy Couture
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko CroCop
4. Tim Sylvia
5. Andrei Arlovski
6. Brandon Vera
7. Gabriel Gonzaga
8. Fabricio Werdum
9. Frank Mir
10. Cheik Kongo

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Quinton Jackson
2. Dan Henderson
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Mauricio Rua
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Rashad Evans
7. Tito Ortiz
8. Lyoto Machida
9. Jason Lambert
10. Renato Sobral

MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva
2. Rich Franklin
3. Nate Marquardt
4. Yushin Okami
5. Martin Kampmann
6. Patrick Cote
7. Jason McDonald
8. Terry Martin
9. Thales Leites
10. Kendall Grove


WELTERWEIGHT
1. George St. Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Josh Koscheck
4. Diego Sanchez
5. Jon Fitch
6. Karo Parysian
7. Matt Serra
8. Mike Swick
9. Josh Burkman
10. Marcus Davis

LIGHTWEIGHT
1. BJ Penn
2. Joe Stevenson
3. Roger Huerta
4. Kenny Florian
5. Din Thomas
6. Spencer Fisher
7. Clay Guida
8. Thiago Tavares
9. Kurt Pellegrino
10. Frank Edgar

[Kurtis636]

Heavyweight

1 - Couture
2 - Big Nog
3 - CroCop
4 - Gonzaga
5 - Arlovski
6 - Brandon Vera
7 - Tim Sylvia
8 - Fabricio Werdum
9 - Cheick Kongo
10 - Jake O’Brien

Lt Heavyweight

1 - Shogun
2 - Rampage
3 - Hendo
4 - Chuck
5 - Wandy
6 - Machida
7 - Rashad
8 - Tito
9 - Bisping
10 - Babalu

Middleweight (had to reshuffle some here with no Tanner and Grove losing)

1 - Anderson Silva
2 - Rich Franklin
3 - Nate Marquardt
4 - Thales Leites
5 - Terry Martin
6 - Martin Kampmann
7 - Travis Lutter
8 - Yushin Okami
9 - Jason McDonald
10 - Ed Herman

Welterweight (I'm taking Swick off until he fights at 170. Too many other guys are deserving)
1 - Georges St. Pierre
2 - Matt Hughes
3 - Matt Serra
4 - Diego Sanchez
5 - Karo Parisyan
6 - Josh Koscheck
7 - Jon Fitch
8 - Mach Sakurai
9 - Marcus Davis
10 - Drew Fickett

Lightweight (crazy deep and competitive division)

1 - BJ Penn
2 - Roger Huerta
3 - Din Thomas
4 - Joe Stevenson
5 - Kenny Florian
6 - Spencer Fisher
7 - Clay Guida
8 - Thiago Tavares
9 - Joe Lauzon
10 - Tyson Griffin

[mlambo]

HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Randy Couture
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko Filipovic
4. Gabriel Gonzaga
5. Tim Sylvia
6. Andrei Arlovski
7. Fabricio Werdum
8. Brandon Vera
9. Jake O'Brien
10. Heath Herring

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Mauricio Rua
2. Quinton Jackson
3. Dan Henderson
4. Chuck Liddell
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Lyoto Machida
7. Rashad Evans
8. Tito Ortiz
9. Forrest Griffin
10. Wilson Gouveia

MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva
2. Rich Franklin
3. Nate Marquardt
4. Yushin Okami
5. Martin Kampmann
6. Terry Martin
7. Jason McDonald
8. Thales Leites
9. Kendall Grove
10. Patrick Cote

WELTERWEIGHT
1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Josh Koscheck
4. Matt Serra
5. Diego Sanchez
6. Karo Parysian
7. Jon Fitch
8. Mike Swick
9. Thiago Alves
10. Josh Burkman

LIGHTWEIGHT
1. BJ Penn
2. Joe Stevenson
3. Kenny Florian
4. Thiago Tavares
5. Din Thomas
6. Clay Guida
7. Roger Huerta
8. Marcus Aurelio
9. Spencer Fisher
10. Tyson Griffin

[riversideblues]

Originally Posted by Heatwaves

MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva (1)
2. Rich Franklin (2)
3. Nate Marquardt (3)
4. Yushin Okami (4)
5. Martin Kampmann (6)
6. Jason McDonald (8)
7. Terry Martin (9)
8. Thales Leites (-)
9. Kendall Grove (7)
10. Dean Lister (10)

I don't think you can drop a MW list like that in the OP without a little explanation?


Also, I don't want to quote everyone, but i'm pretty sure anyone who doesn't rank Kenny, or has Huerta in the top 2, is either dumb or totally falls for the UFC hype machine (respectively)


HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Randy Couture
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko CroCop
4. Tim Sylvia
5. Andrei Arlovski
6. Gabriel Gonzaga
7. Brandon Vera
8. Fabricio Werdum
9. Frank Mir
10. Cheik Kongo

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Quinton Jackson
2. Mauricio Rua
3. Chuck LiddellDan Henderson
4. Dan Henderson
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Rashad Evans
7. Tito Ortiz
8. Lyoto Machida
9. Jason Lambert
10. Renato Sobral

MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva
2. Rich Franklin
3. Nate Marquardt
4. Martin Kampmann
5. Yushin Okami
6. Jason McDonald
7. Terry Martin
8. Thales Leites
9. Patrick Cote
10. Dean Lister

WELTERWEIGHT
1. George St. Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Matt Serra
4. Jon Fitch
5. Karo Parysian
6. Josh Koscheck
7. Diego Sanchez
8. Mike Swick
9. Marcus Davis
10. Josh Burkman

LIGHTWEIGHT
1. BJ Penn
2. Joe Stevenson
3. Kenny Florian
4. Din Thomas
5. Spencer Fisher
6. Kurt Pellegrino
7. Roger Huerta
8. Clay Guida
9. Thiago Tavares
10. Frank Edgar

[riversideblues]

Also, can anyone care to say why they ranked Diego above Kos? Is it just like honest hatred or do people have reasons. He stuck it to a decision with George, and Matt barely lasted one round in their last fight.

[HaVoK]

Heavyweight
1. Randy Couture
2. Andrei Arlovski
3. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
4. Mirko CroCop
5. Brandon Vera
6. Gabriel Gonzaga
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Jake O'Brien
9. Fabrico Werdum
10. Frank Mir

Light Heavyweight
1. Quinton Jackson
2. Mauricio Rua
3. Dan Henderson
4. Chuck Liddell
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Tito Ortiz
7. Rashad Evans
8. Michael Bisping
9. Forrest Griffin
10. Renato Sobral

Middleweight
1. Anderson Silva
2. Rich Franklin
3. Nate Marquardt
4. Yushin Okami
5. Martin Kampmann
6. Jason McDonald
7. Terry Martin
8. Kendall Grove
9. Thales Leites
10. Ed Herman

Welterweight
1. George St. Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Diego Sanchez
4. Karo Parisyan
5. Jon Fitch
6. Mike Swick
7. Josh Koscheck
8. Matt Serra
9. Josh Burkman
10. Marcus Davis

Lightweight
1. BJ Penn
2. Sean Sherk
3. Joe Stevenson
4. Kenny Florian
5. Roger Huerta
6. Din Thomas
7. Spencer Fisher
8. Joe Lauzon
9. Thiago Tavares
10. Kurt Pellegrino

[Kurtis636]

Well, to be fair I've had Huerta ranked pretty highly for the last 2 or 3 polls. I honestly think he's better than Florian, Stevenson, or Thomas. I couldn't justify dropping him after he whooped a BJJ world champ. Stevenson's win was impressive as well, but not impressive enough to move him up on my list.

Ranking Diego above Kos for me was due to Kos getting schooled and Diego not being healthy in their fight. I think if they fought again there would be a different result. I'm ranking fighters based on results and who I think would win in a fight at this time. Kos just got exposed and I think now guys are going to know how to gameplan for him. It's very close and I might change my mind next week.

I don't think there are any issues with Heatwaves MW list. He took Tanner out and moved Kampmann, McDonald, and Martin up. Grove lost so he goes down, Lister hasn't fought since his loss to Marquardt so he stays put. What's the issue?

[FightFan76]

Originally Posted by riversideblues

Also, I don't want to quote everyone, but i'm pretty sure anyone who doesn't rank Kenny, or has Huerta in the top 2, is either dumb or totally falls for the UFC hype machine (respectively)

I think Kenny is on the hype machine as well; yeah he has fought name fighters but he has lost all of those fights. Besides that if he fought Huerta I believe he would lose, regardless of who either 1 of them have fought.

[Heatwaves]

Originally Posted by riversideblues

I don't think you can drop a MW list like that in the OP without a little explanation?

What was it about the list that caught your eye? I didn't think anything was peculiar - Kendall dropped, Leites rose, and Tanner was omitted.

Is it because I failed to rank Cote? Cote is only 2-4 in the UFC and one notable victory over Kendall doesn't put him in the top 10 in my opinion. The guy lost to Chris Leben and Travis Lutter. That may qualify him as a competitive fighter, but not top talent.

Originally Posted by riversideblues

Also, can anyone care to say why they ranked Diego above Kos?

I agree with Kurtis on this one. The bottom line is that Diego and Koscheck are 1-1 against each other. I was simply less impressed with Koscheck's lackluster victory. I don't believe I can be considered anti-Koscheck either, since I picked him to upset GSP. I also can't be considered pro-Diego, since I believe that Fitch will beat him this month.

And as I've said before, I think it's a lot easier to justify ranking Diego over Koscheck than those who rank Arlovski over Sylvia even though he lost 2 of 3 to Big Tim.

[p19101]

HW
1. Randy Couture (1)
2. Antonio Noguiera (2)
3. Mirko Filipovic (4)
4. Andrei Arlovski (5)
5. Brandon Vera (6)
6. Gabriel Gonzaga (3)
7. Tim Sylvia (7)
8. Jake Obrien (8)
9. Cheick Kongo (9)
10. Fabricio Werdum (10)

LHW
1. Quinton Jackson (1)
2. Dan Henderson (2)
3. Mauricio Rua (3)
4. Chuck Liddell (4)
5. Tito Ortiz (5)
6. Michael Bisping (6)
7. Lyoto Machida (7)
8. Rashad Evans (8)
9. Renato Sobral (10)
10. Houston Alexander (9)

MW
1. Anderson Silva (1)
2. Rich Franklin (2)
3. Martin Kampmann (4)
4. Evan Tanner(5)
5. Nate Marquardt (6)
6. Jason Macdonald (7)
7. Yushin Okami (8)
8. Kendall Grove (3)
9. Dean Lister (9)
10.Terry Martin (10)

WW
1. Matt Serra (1)
2. GSP (2)
3. Karo Parisyan (3)
4. Matt Hughes (4)
5. Jon Fitch (6)
6. Diego Sanchez (7)
7. Josh Koschek (5)
8. Marcus Davis (8)
9. Josh Burkman (9)
10.Thiago Alves (10)

LW
1. BJ Penn (1)
2. Roger Huerta (2)
3. Joe Stevenson (3)
4. Thiago Tavares (4)
5. Kenny Florian (7)
6.Clay Guida (8)
7.Spencer Fisher (5)
8.Tyson Gryffon (6)
9. Din Thomas (9)
10. Marcus Aurelio (10)

[BispingKO]

HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Randy Couture
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko CroCop
4. Gabriel Gonzaga
5. Tim Sylvia
6. Andrei Arlovski
7. Brandon Vera
8. Fabricio Werdum
9. Frank Mir
10. Cheik Kongo

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Dan Henderson
2. Quinton Jackson
3. Mauricio Rua
4. Chuck Liddell
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Rashad Evans
7. Tito Ortiz
8. Forrest Griffin
9. Jason Lambert
10. Mickael Bisping

MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva
2. Rich Franklin
3. Nate Marquardt
4. Martin Kampmann
5. Yushin Okami
6. Jason McDonald
7. Terry Martin
8. Thales Leites
9. Patrick Cote
10. Dean Lister

WELTERWEIGHT
1. George St. Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Matt Serra
4. Jon Fitch
5. Karo Parysian
6. Josh Koscheck
7. Diego Sanchez
8. Mike Swick
9. Marcus Davis
10. Josh Burkman

LIGHTWEIGHT
1. BJ Penn
2. Joe Stevenson
3. Kenny Florian
4. Din Thomas
5. Spencer Fisher
6. Roger Huerta
7. Kurt Pellegrino
8. Clay Guida
9. Thiago Tavares
10. Frank Edgar

[Dr.Chicago]

HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Randy Couture
2. Gabriel Gonzaga
3. Mirko CroCop
4. Andrei Arlovski
5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
6. Tim Sylvia
7. Brandon Vera
8. Cheik Kongo
9. Heath Herring
10. Fabricio Werdum

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
1. Quinton Jackson
2. Chuck Liddell
3. Mauricio Rua
4. Dan Henderson
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Michael Bisping
7. Houston Alexander
8. Rashad Evans
9. Tito Ortiz
10. Renato Sobral

MIDDLEWEIGHT
1. Anderson Silva
2. Rich Franklin
3. Nate Marquardt
4. Yushin Okami
5. Martin Kampmann
6. Jason McDonald
7. Terry Martin
8. Patrick Cote
9. Kendall Grove
10. Thales Leites

WELTERWEIGHT
1. George St. Pierre
2. Matt Serra
3. Josh Koscheck
4. Matt Hughes
5. Karo Parysian
6. Diego Sanchez
7. Josh Burkman
8. Mike Swick
9. Jon Fitch
10. Marcus Davis

LIGHTWEIGHT
1. Roger Huerta
2. BJ Penn
3. Joe Stevenson
4. Kenny Florian
5. Spencer Fisher
6. Din Thomas
7. Kurt Pellegrino
8. Clay Guida
9. Joe Lazon
10. Thiago Tavares

[CounterPuncher]

Heavyweight
1.Randy Couture
2.Gabriel Gonzaga
3.Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
4.Mirko Cro Cop
5.Tim Sylvia
6.Andrei Arlovski
7.Brandon Vera
8.Cheick Kongo
9.Heath Herring
10.Frank Mir

Light Heavyweight
1.Rampage Jackson
2.Chuck Liddell
3.Mauricio Rua
4.Dan Henderson
5.Wanderlei Silva
6.Tito Ortiz
7.Rashad Evans
8.Jason Lambert
9.Forrest Griffin
10.Renato Sobral

Middleweight
1.Anderson Silva
2.Rich Franklin
3.Nate Marquardt
4.Yushin Okami
5.Martin Kampmann
6.Evan Tanner
7.Terry Martin
8.Jason MacDonald
9.Travis Lutter
10.Patrick Cote

Welterweight
1.Matt Serra
2.Georges St.Pierre
3.Matt Hughes
4.Karo Parisyan
5.Jon Fitch
6.Josh Koscheck
7.Mike Swick
8.Diego Sanchez
9.Marcus Davis
10.Josh Burkman

Lightweight
1.BJ Penn
2.Joe Stevenson
3.Kenny Florian
4.Spencer Fisher
5.Roger Huerta
6.Joe Lauzon
7.Din Thomas
8.Clay Guida
9.Kurt Pelligrino
10.Thiago Tavares