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Old 08-28-2007, 06:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Leben vs. Martin is a match made in heaven for Leben

a guy with no subs that will stand and trade hays with leben. leben is going to knock terry out.

leben has good wrestling, especially good td defence as you saw against mcdonald and he has a good ground game the ppl dont give him credit for.

this fight is a match made in heaven for leben.


terry and leben will trade bombs, leben will win that battle.

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Old 08-28-2007, 06:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I hope Terry Martin whips his ass so bad...... Nothing better than seeing leben being humbled.
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Old 08-28-2007, 06:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They don't give Leben any easy fights, do they?

Martin by KO.
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Old 08-28-2007, 06:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm gonna have to go with Martin although I wouldn't mind seeing Leben win at least once this year.
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Old 08-28-2007, 06:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I look forward to seeing Leban TKOed... 2nd round..
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Martin will KO him within 3min.
People seem to only remember Martin for the flying knee from Irvin that knocked him cold for several minutes. But he was mauling Irvin for the 1st 5min of that match, before being stupid and telelgraphing his shot. A beating at the hands of Lambert is his only other loss, which ain't bad for a shortass little dude who spent way too much time wanting to be a LHW. Dropping to MW was a great move for him. He could be a big spoiler in that group. I don't imagine him as Championship caliber....but no one in that weight class had better take him lightly. Just ask Rivera & Salaverry about that. Leben's gonna take as big a beating as he did against Silva. Maybe not as pretty and precise....but every bit as devastating.

Honestly...I can't stand either of these guys. Both are mouthy and arrogant to a fault. Love to see'em KO each other. :
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Old 08-28-2007, 07:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't know too much about Martin's background, but I thought that he's a wrestler with heavy hands? His wrestling seemed to be pretty good from what I've seen. At least as good or better than Leben's. And in regards to submissions, Martin has 5 of his 16 wins by way of submission. While Leben has 4 out of 16 wins via submission. So they seem pretty much even in the submission department.

I see this fight going down as both guys coming out swinging. Martin may try for the takedown, and may get it; but I also see Leben trying to keep the fight on their feet. And definitely someone gets KO'd in the first round. As both have heavy hands, it could be either one. But with Leben's chin, he may be able to survive a couple good shots from Martin. It seems like a close fight to call, but maybe the stronger fighter, Martin, will win.


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I hope Terry Martin whips his ass so bad...... Nothing better than seeing leben being humbled.
Agreed 100%. Maybe this will be the fight that ends Leben's UFC career. I hope so.
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a guy with no subs that will stand and trade hays with leben. leben is going to knock terry out.

leben has good wrestling, especially good td defence as you saw against mcdonald and he has a good ground game the ppl dont give him credit for.

this fight is a match made in heaven for leben.


terry and leben will trade bombs, leben will win that battle.

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Good ground game ? Didnt he get choked out in half guard ? I hope Leben gets ktfo and then retires.
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I was actually surprised that they even gave Leben another fight after his loss to Starnes. If he loses this one, which I think he will, he is done in the UFC for sure. Off to IFL you go.
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The only knockout that Leben will accomplish with this match is where he knocks himself right out of the UFC by taking a beatdown.
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Martin will KO him within 3min.
People seem to only remember Martin for the flying knee from Irvin that knocked him cold for several minutes. But he was mauling Irvin for the 1st 5min of that match, before being stupid and telelgraphing his shot. A beating at the hands of Lambert is his only other loss, which ain't bad for a shortass little dude who spent way too much time wanting to be a LHW. Dropping to MW was a great move for him. He could be a big spoiler in that group. I don't imagine him as Championship caliber....but no one in that weight class had better take him lightly. Just ask Rivera & Salaverry about that. Leben's gonna take as big a beating as he did against Silva. Maybe not as pretty and precise....but every bit as devastating.

Honestly...I can't stand either of these guys. Both are mouthy and arrogant to a fault. Love to see'em KO each other. :
I agree...Martin is however one the people I would rather see get KO'D the Leben. He seems to be getting too cocky lately.
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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hmm.. you have to give credit to leben for trying though. what would be great though if they knocked each other out at the same time. :]
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I don't really care for either of them, but Martin is a bad dude. Someone in the front row might end up with Leben's head landing in their lap.
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I was actually surprised that they even gave Leben another fight after his loss to Starnes. If he loses this one, which I think he will, he is done in the UFC for sure. Off to IFL you go.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:56 PM   #15 (permalink)
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a guy with no subs that will stand and trade hays with leben. leben is going to knock terry out.

leben has good wrestling, especially good td defence as you saw against mcdonald and he has a good ground game the ppl dont give him credit for.

this fight is a match made in heaven for leben.


terry and leben will trade bombs, leben will win that battle.

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Martin may not have a lot of submissions but he does / can take people down and use GnP to pound out a win. I dont see Leban winning this one. Martin is stronger, faster, and more explosive. I just dont see Leban winning other than landing some big shot that he is fond of throwing.
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I don't know if Martin is better at taking a hit, but he's so explosive I don't think Leben will be able to mount any offense if Terry gets off first.

Martin by Gnp, within the first round.
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I pick Martin by KO cause he has fast heavy hands and Leben will not see the punches coming. I know Leben has a strong chin but Martin has punching power....I feel really sorry for Leben.
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I think Terry will win but I hope for Leben to win by a brutal KO
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a guy with no subs that will stand and trade hays with leben. leben is going to knock terry out.

leben has good wrestling, especially good td defence as you saw against mcdonald and he has a good ground game the ppl dont give him credit for.

this fight is a match made in heaven for leben.


terry and leben will trade bombs, leben will win that battle.

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OOh man I can't dissagree more. Martin has VERY heavy hands and is very accurate. Leben is going down.
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I see Martin winning this one by TKO. Even if Leben's winning the standup (which I dont think he will), Terry can always take him down and grind out a win there. He kept the much larger James Irvin down for a whole round, I doubt he'll have a problem doing the same to Leben.
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