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08-30-2007, 04:58 PM
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Randy started in MMA so late, and has only gotten better and more well rounded. With no bias he is at least in the top 5 of guys who can beat Fedor, I feel he has the style to get in good positions with Fedor. If randy can close the range and press Fedor up against the cage or be on top on the ground he is in trouble. Randy has more well rounded skills than just about anyone Fedor has fought.
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08-30-2007, 05:06 PM
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GO STEELERS!!!
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Everybody keeps saying about the randy "nuthuggers". I can't wait till somebody beats Fedor just to shut everybody up. 90% of the people here think that he is not human, and that he is unbeatable. Anybody can lose at any given time.
And BispingKO, just because somebody has a different opinion than you, you think that they shouldn't even be on an MMA forum? With comments like that I would ask you the same question,since you can't even listen to other peoples opinions without critisizing them
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08-30-2007, 05:08 PM
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To you who say feed him a can, he can take Lesnar then if he doesn't get a title fight right away
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08-30-2007, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jyd94
Randy started in MMA so late, and has only gotten better and more well rounded. With no bias he is at least in the top 5 of guys who can beat Fedor, I feel he has the style to get in good positions with Fedor. If randy can close the range and press Fedor up against the cage or be on top on the ground he is in trouble. Randy has more well rounded skills than just about anyone Fedor has fought.
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I agree that he is more impressive every time we see him and he would be in the top 5 guys who might be able to beat Fedor. I just don't see it happening though, we "nuthug" Fedor because he has proven to be an amazing fighter with very little chance of losing. He gets out of subs, recovers from being rocked, and has crazy standup and subs. The only way I see Randy beating Fedor is a stoppage due to a cut.
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08-30-2007, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PrideOwnsUFC
The Fedor nuthuggers haven't been much better, by the way.
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I agree.. the Fedor nuthuggers have been that way for a long long time. And the CroCop nuthuggers before that... until they got head-kicked back to reality. I love both fighters. But people are ignorant if they truly believe someone is unbeatable. Randy can beat anyone on a given night... and so can Fedor.
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08-30-2007, 06:05 PM
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Letting Fedor do the Sambo stuff seems like an easy request to grant. Look how many UFC guys either have or will compete in ADCC. There's not a huge injury risk in Sambo.
Red Devil team has a lot of good fighters, why not sign Aleksander Emelianenko or Semenov.
Anybody think UFC in Moscow wouldn't draw a crowd?
These all seem like pretty easy decisions to me. Pay the man, let him fight Sambo a couple times a year and sign his brother. Do it Dana!
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08-30-2007, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Elder
I agree.. the Fedor nuthuggers have been that way for a long long time. And the CroCop nuthuggers before that... until they got head-kicked back to reality. I love both fighters. But people are ignorant if they truly believe someone is unbeatable. Randy can beat anyone on a given night... and so can Fedor.
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perfectly said
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08-30-2007, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BispingKO
You are kidding right? You must be, if you aint kidding then may I ask what you are doing on an MMA forum? There is no way that Andrei would beat Fedor short of Fedor falling over and getting paralysed in the ring and even then I would call Fedor the favourite.
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In related news, there is also no way that Matt Serra will ever beat GSP.
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I think (hope?) that the UFC will sign Fedor over the next few days, keep it secret, and then reveal it during UFC 75.
If it's true that the contract dispute is largely about Combat Sambo, either Fedor will ultimately concede his request or the UFC will build a clause in his contract which potentiall nullifies it (or fines him) should Fedor receive a lasting injury. BTW, if SitnSpin (i.e. Dana) reads this... I'd make one hell of a contract arbiter for you.
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08-30-2007, 06:55 PM
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE sign the contact this weekend. I might actually cry if this happens.
His first fight should be AA then Randy but Dana already said he will be getting a instant title shot. I don't mind it but i wouldn't mind seeing him in action before he becomes the champ (i love Randy but this is Fedor we are talking about here).
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08-30-2007, 09:32 PM
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Everyone keeps saying that they'd love to see Fedor fight AA first.
Really? Randy ain't gettin' any younger and I'd love to see him fight Fedor asap. Personally, I'd rather see AA fight Big Nog and the winner gets the winner of Fedor/Couture.
Of course, even if Fedor doesn't sign, I'd love to see Couture fight the winner of an AA vs. Big Nog fight.
The next contender would emerge from winner of Crocop vs. Kongo against the winner of Sylvia vs. Vera.
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08-30-2007, 09:44 PM
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bitch-slapped Dana White!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MTKrav911
Fedor is the Kaiser Soze of MMA
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Damn it Krav!
Now I have to go watch the usual suspects again for the 87096908th time!!
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08-30-2007, 10:57 PM
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Fedor should get an immediate title shot for 2 reasons:
1. He is Fedor
2. Trying to build up his U.S. name recognition by fighting a can could backfire a la CroCop
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08-30-2007, 11:04 PM
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I speak smiley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TapOrNap
Fedor should get an immediate title shot for 2 reasons:
1. He is Fedor
2. Trying to build up his U.S. name recognition by fighting a can could backfire a la CroCop
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I agree with #1 but as far as #2...Gonzaga is no can and it was not CroCop's first fight.
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08-30-2007, 11:17 PM
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Location: Canada , Brampton Ontario
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Fedor and Randy In late december early jan , you know damn well thats what Is going to happen , with all the bull crap with Wandy and Dana still lands him Fedor has to be signed to make the UFC the complete package and fans and Dana both know it . let the guy fight for his country ! and sign this deal already Randy Isn't getting any younger lol
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08-30-2007, 11:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saskabush
True but "nuthuggin" Fedor is more justifiable than calling a guy with a 16-8 record the best HW champ ever etc etc. Randy hasn't even beat any high calibre opponents since his win over Chuck 4 years ago.
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I just think for the most part Randy brings up alot of emotion in people because its so easy to get behind him, the whole "inspirational" thing, you know? Plus, let's be fair, you could also argue that Fedor hasn't really done anything since beating Cro Cop 2 years ago.
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08-30-2007, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bayouboy
I agree with #1 but as far as #2...Gonzaga is no can and it was not CroCop's first fight.
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Everyone would agree now that Gonzaga is no can, but prior to the CroCop fight he was mostly viewed as a stepping stone for CroCop.
You are correct that it wasn't CroCop's first fight, but the UFC was feeding him fights to build up name recogintion instead of an immediate title shot in an attempt to build hype.
If Fedor was given someone he was supposed to beat in his first fight, but somehow lost instead, the hype of the "unbeatable" Fedor would be gone.
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08-30-2007, 11:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saskabush
I don't know if Dana would put Arlovski up against him right away. I would imagine they will give him a can so he can showcase all of his skills. A lot of people in NA still don't even know who Fedor is.
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What would be a better way to showcase his skill by fighting a fighter most people know. I think that a unification fight w/ Randy would sell better though.....
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08-31-2007, 01:21 AM
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I agree with TapOrNap. You can't allow a Fedor signing (which is sure to be for at least $1 mil per fight) backfire if he were to lose against fight fodder. Fedor's stock wouldn't go down much with average UFC fans if he were to lose against Couture with an instant title shot. But if he were to lose against Jake O'Brien's LNP in a warm-up fight, that could prove devastating to the UFC's short term investment.
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08-31-2007, 02:37 AM
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I am hoping he will sign the contract and if Fedor does I hope he has a tune up fight just to get use to the cage. i would like the BEST Fedor vs. the BEST Randy.
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08-31-2007, 02:41 AM
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Machida Title Shot Now
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It has already been said that he would come with an immediate title shot. Hasn't it? I believe they would sell it similarly to the Hendo-Rampage bout.
In any case, those who have followed PRIDE know that Fedor and Mirko are quite different when the fights don't start the way they want. Mirko usually tries to set the pace but, if he cannot, then he gets in trouble (like it happened against GG, or when he fought Fedor in PRIDE). Fedor does not need to start with a bang, the guy can reverse a fight in a second because he is fearless about losing or getting ko'ed. His head and will, more than his skills, are what make him so hard to beat.
I would not worry about him losing a fight before a title match if I were the Dana White. But that won't happen. He will get an immediate title shot.
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